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[DKehoe]

i have no idea how ufc works, but isn't that impossible? i mean, i think you have to fight someone in ufc.

She was officially the first woman signed to the UFC and was the reason they decided to do a women's division. She was one of the participants in the first female fight in the UFC. It is entirely possible (or even probable) that without Ronda there wouldn't be any women's divisions in the UFC today. Before Ronda broke out as a star Dana White, the UFC president, was asked when they would have women fighting in the UFC and said it would never happen. So it's entirely fair to say she was the first woman in the UFC.

 

[teruterubozu]

I guess DMT is bogus.

 

[backflip10019]

So you think people you think people who don't care/don't believe in/ or support a pay gap all have no mothers, wives and daughters?

Of course not. After listening to Rogan talk about how much he cares for his family on his podcast, I know that this isn't a belief he harbors.

 

[DasPenguin]

This is a reinforcing problem, though. If women are paid less, then when women have the chance of pursuing a career as a professional athlete vs. other careers, more will chose other careers, which means the talent pool is diminished, which means games are of lower quality, which means less people watch, which means they earn less money, which means women are paid less.

Oh stop it. So they should pay Lisa Leslie the same as Kobe Bryant? One brings no profit to the table while the other brings all of it. Sounds reasonable. Almost all the top college female players who want to play professionally do so. They make less money for a reason. People just enjoy the men's game more. There's no way to close that talent gap. Paying women more (for no reason) doesn't change that.

Of course if the WNBA suddenly becomes popular and makes a massive tv deal, they deserve to get paid in a similar manner. That's not the case now and I doubt it will ever be so.

 

[Scientist Supreme!]

Of course not. After listening to Rogan talk about how much he cares for is family on his podcast, I know that this isn't a belief he harbors.

I'm sorry but many shitty people talk and even believe in how much they care their family. This isn't a new thing.

 

[Latimer]

I cannot think of a better way to insult oneself than to exclaim "I find Joe Rogan funny".

Get off your high horse.

 

[ldcommando]

I find Joe Rogan funny. Had a good time watching his latest special on Netflix. Love Bill burr too.

 

[kinggroin]

You really don't see the connection between having a vested interest in his girls' futures and how campaigning against women earning equal pay would run directly against that?

These are jokes by comedians.

That's very naive buddy.

 

[backflip10019]

I'm sorry but many shitty people talk and even believe in how much they care their family. This isn't a new thing.

Cool, you're free to believe what you want to believe based on the 45 seconds of audio you listened to. I'll take my empirical evidence based on hours of podcasts and continue to think my own thoughts.

That's very naive buddy.

Naive is making up your mind about people based on a minute of comedy audio.

 

[NoblesseOblige]

Congratulations on making yourself sound like an asshole.

Also, you have used the word 'exclaim' incorrectly in this scentence. I suspect you meant to use the world 'proclaim'.

Thanks, both for the congratulations and the correction (even though exclaim is a synonym for declare, but let's ignore that). I'll return the favor by pointing out you used 'scentence' wrong because... well, it's not a word!

Get off your high horse.

Is it being on a high horse to point out some surface level has-been isn't funny? If so I'll remain where I'm at.

 

[kinggroin]

Cool, you're free to believe what you want to believe based on the 45 seconds of audio you listened to. I'll take my empirical evidence based on hours of podcasts and continue to think my own thoughts.


Naive is making up your mind about people based on a minute of audio.

I'd say premature judgement perhaps. Doesn't mean you aren't naive.

 

[kinggroin]

Is it being on a high horse to point out some surface level has-been isn't funny? If so I'll remain where I'm at.

You insulted his fans in a roundabout way. High horse has nothing to do with him being funny or not.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Oh stop it. So they should pay Lisa Leslie the same as Kobe Bryant? One brings no profit to the table while the other brings all of it. Sounds reasonable. Almost all the top college female players who want to play professionally do so. They make less money for a reason. People just enjoy the men's game more. There's no way to close that talent gap. Paying women more (for no reason) doesn't change that.

Of course if the WNBA suddenly becomes popular and makes a massive tv deal, they deserve to get paid in a similar manner. That's not the case now and I doubt it will ever be so.

From a practical viewpoint, you couldn't pay Leslie as much as Bryant or the women's game would go bust. However, I think it is pretty reasonable to say that you should start gently increasing Leslie's pay over time with a partial subsidy from Bryant's pay - it's a pretty sensible investment to make if you end up with two premier products to sell (men's game and women's game) rather than just the one.

 

[NoblesseOblige]

You insulted his fans in a roundabout way. High horse has nothing to do with him being funny or not.

You'd think fans of Rogan would be above getting so easily offended.

 

[JBourne]

Rogan is a stupid person's idea of what an intelligent person is like.

Great description.

Joe Rogan should've stuck to standing beside people while they ate bugs and testicles. He was okay at that.

 

[Dick Justice]

Considering the way he talked about the Leslie Jones debacle, Rogan's a dipshit. An entertaining-at-times dipshit, but a dipshit nonetheless.

 

[Latimer]

Great description.

Joe Rogan should've stuck to standing beside people while they ate bugs and testicles. He was okay at that.

His podcast is doing pretty well.

 

[highrider]

I listened to the podcast and thought it was hilarious.

Can't believe it actually made people on here mad.

It's a fucking comedy podcast. God damn

Yeah, I usually avoid these threads, but I'm kind of stunned that people are offended by a comedy podcast. It's disappointing to see people say the type of comments where " this guy is a terrible person/idiot and if you find this entertaining you are as well."

It's lazy, going after a comedian who at least is curious, whether you personally find him entertaining or not.

I've never been a fan of his stand up but I like his podcast the few times I've seen bits of it on YouTube.

On a side note, a appreciate that he reps cannabis. You open yourself up to derision when you do that, it gives people an easy excuse to dismiss you as an idiot stoner. Well he smokes a lot of weed so I don't even have to address what he's saying, he's inherently intellectually compromised.

 

[JimiNutz]

Thanks, both for the congratulations and the correction (even though exclaim is a synonym for declare, but let's ignore that). I'll return the favor by pointing out you used 'scentence' wrong because... well, it's not a word!

Haha! Touche!
We'll call this one a draw

 

[DasPenguin]

From a practical viewpoint, you couldn't pay Leslie as much as Bryant or the women's game would go bust. However, I think it is pretty reasonable to say that you should start gently increasing Leslie's pay over time with a partial subsidy from Bryant's pay - it's a pretty sensible investment to make if you end up with two premier products to sell (men's game and women's game) rather than just the one.

And how would it become more premium? They have almost all the pros from around the world playing in the league already. They use NBA stadiums. How would more money make the league better than it is now?

Or did the NBA players get money from other leagues in the 70's when it wasn't profitable? Without the NBA's help WNBA would've gone bankrupt years ago. More money is not a solution when the talent is already there. Nobody watches it because compared to the men's league the level of play is too low. And I'm no fan of the current NBA, but it's a different sport compared to WNBA.

 

[Scientist Supreme!]

Cool, you're free to believe what you want to believe based on the 45 seconds of audio you listened to. I'll take my empirical evidence based on hours of podcasts and continue to think my own thoughts.


Naive is making up your mind about people based on a minute of comedy audio.

Ok, my post wasn't even about Ronan in particular but just that argument is consistently a false one. I'm sure I can find many U.S politician who talk about they love their family before saying some racist, sexist, homophobic comment.

 

[NoblesseOblige]

I bet Joe Rogan wouldn't be so angry if he wasn't so short.

 

[Latimer]

I bet Joe Rogan wouldn't be so angry if he wasn't so short.

Hoho!

 

[capitalCORN]

I bet Joe Rogan wouldn't be so angry if he wasn't so short.

For guys like him, it's ALWAYS gains'o'clock!

 

[JasoNsider]

Wow, there are people in here still defending the use of the term "SJW"? Damn. How have people not realized that term was co-opted and employed by shitbags everywhere to label anybody who cares about social issues even a little bit? No, even in discussion with liberal minded folks, 99% of the time if you hear that term (again unironically) it's a red flag. No matter how much you think it's an ok term just used for the most heinous, evangelical left wingers, that is not the case. It's used as slur to those who speak against injustice and inequality even in a modest capacity. Words' meanings change and so do the power they weild - don't fall prey to "but the textbook definition says" fallacy.

I mean, this is GAF and everything has a defense force, but sometimes you should let it go. People who graciously give Milo a spotlight and perpetuate the shitty use of terms like "SJW" does not deserve any of our time and energy.

 

[Glowingmonx]

Thanks, both for the congratulations and the correction (even though exclaim is a synonym for declare, but let's ignore that). I'll return the favor by pointing out you used 'scentence' wrong because... well, it's not a word!



Is it being on a high horse to point out some surface level has-been isn't funny? If so I'll remain where I'm at.

^ Cringe

 

[Maxim726X]

Rogan is a stupid person's idea of what an intelligent person is like.

Seriously. I've tried his podcast before and came away with the impression that he's your average pot head conspiracy theorist. I have no idea how he gets people like Harris to come on to his show

 

[nynt9]

Yeah, I usually avoid these threads, but I'm kind of stunned that people are offended by a comedy podcast. It's disappointing to see people say the type of comments where " this guy is a terrible person/idiot and if you find this entertaining you are as well."

It's lazy, going after a comedian who at least is curious, whether you personally find him entertaining or not.

I've never been a fan of his stand up but I like his podcast the few times I've seen bits of it on YouTube.

On a side note, a appreciate that he reps cannabis. You open yourself up to derision when you do that, it gives people an easy excuse to dismiss you as an idiot stoner. Well he smokes a lot of weed so I don't even have to address what he's saying, he's inherently intellectually compromised.

"It's comedy" isn't necessarily carte blanche to say whatever though. People can be offended.

 

[backflip10019]

"It's comedy" isn't necessarily carte blanche to say whatever though. People can be offended.

Being offended is fine (and part of what comedy is about). Vilifying someone because of comedy, which many are doing in this thread, is not.

 

[darkace]

Wow, there are people in here still defending the use of the term "SJW"? Damn. How have people not realized that term was co-opted and employed by shitbags everywhere to label anybody who cares about social issues even a little bit? No, even in discussion with liberal minded folks, 99% of the time if you hear that term (again unironically) it's a red flag. No matter how much you think it's an ok term just used for the most heinous, evangelical left wingers, that is not the case. It's used as slur to those who speak against injustice and inequality even in a modest capacity. Words' meanings change and so do the power they weild - don't fall prey to "but the textbook definition says" fallacy.

I mean, this is GAF and everything has a defense force, but sometimes you should let it go. People who graciously give Milo a spotlight and perpetuate the shitty use of terms like "SJW" does not deserve any of our time and energy.

Nah SJW is a perfectly legitimate word for the lady from the Hugh Mungus video or the lady who goes off at the uber driver.

 

[DasPenguin]

"It's comedy" isn't necessarily carte blanche to say whatever though. People can be offended.

Here's an idea: if stand up comedy offends you, how about not watching stand up comedy shows and cherry picking things out of those performances that you don't like and making a big deal out of them? We already had the "Well Bill Burr made a joke about hitting women so he obviously agrees with it!" fiasco in this thread.

 

[Alucrid]

what the fuck is comedic about saying that pay inequality is a lie?

 

[capitalCORN]

Here's an idea: if stand up comedy offends you, how about not watching stand up comedy shows and cherry picking things out of those performances that you don't like and making a big deal out of them? We already had the "Well Bill Burr made a joke about hitting women so he obviously agrees with it!" fiasco in this thread.

There's tons of types of stand up comedy. Comedy isn't madlibs. There's no one way to do it. People enjoy different types of comedy at different levels. And sometimes even if I love a comedian, I'm no going comply the whole time out of some self serving affirmation of my character. I'm allowed to have opinions, multiple ones at that, even on one single thing.

 

[Messofanego]

You'd think fans of Rogan would be above getting so easily offended.

hehe

 

[Real Hero]

what the fuck is comedic about saying that pay inequality is a lie?

just a joke bro!

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

A lunkhead conspiracy theory believer with generally conservative views might also be a sexist MRA? Quelle surprise.

 

[NoblesseOblige]

^ Cringe

If you thinking reading it was cringe could you even imagine what it was like to write it?!

Woof.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

I mean... he brought the mother of gamergate Christina Sommers onto his show. And all they did was jerk eachother off over "how toxic feminism is" while railing against sjw's...this shouldn't surprise any one.

 

[Scientist Supreme!]

Being offended is fine (and part of what comedy is about). Vilifying someone because of comedy, which many are doing in this thread, is not.

Your either incredibly naive or into what he's saying if you believe his opinions are just being played up for comedic effect.

 

[Diprosalic]

i have no idea how ufc works, but isn't that impossible? i mean, i think you have to fight someone in ufc.

she was signed to a contract.

prize money is already in that contract, she already knew what she was going to be paid before they signed any other woman.

 

[dramatis]

It is sort of remarkable that two men talking about how suggesting sexual assault is 'funny' has turned into a conversation not about how poorly these men regard women but a discussion about the political leanings of one of these men.

 

[_Ryo_]

You'd think fans of Rogan would be above getting so easily offended.

Like Rogan, they're too short to be above it.

 

[JimiNutz]

Your either incredibly naive or into what he's saying if you believe his opinions are just being played up for comedic effect.

Having just started listening to the podcast, the first section mentioned in the original post (about Trump grabbing women by the pussy) is one hundred percent comedic.
They are both laughing and joking. This is not serious political commentary. They are clearly laughing and joking on a comedic podcast.

Rogan does not think that it's ok to grab women by the pussy... He does however appear to think that it's ok to banter and say outrageous things with your friends in the correct context to make them laugh.

That's what I got from that segment. Some people take things way too seriously and way too literally...

 

[capitalCORN]

It is sort of remarkable that two men talking about how suggesting sexual assault is 'funny' has turned into a conversation not about how poorly these men regard women but a discussion about the political leanings of one of these men.

Well one side doesn't want to take that aspect beyond "It's just jokes bro, Y U MAD?". So sitting on an impasse wont help move the clock forward so....

 

[Slo]

Rogan is a stupid person's idea of what an intelligent person is like.

I'll admit to being a regular listener of his podcast, but I find this post to be pretty accurate.

 

[Kill Your Masters]

Seriously, I can't believe people can be so touchy about this.

Burr and Rogan are performing here. They both are known for their rough around the edges comedic styles. That's what they're doing here.

People saying Rogan is an MRA when he's married and has three young girls. Like what the fuck.

You think someone suddenly changes his opinion on women when his daughter is born? How does that work? Radical GOPs have no daughters? Radical islamists turn liberal WRAs?

 

[Pyroclastic]

dude was running rings around milo in his first appearance on the show without even really trying whilst still being fairly sympathetic to him. it's a shame if he's bought into even more of that crap.

 

[capitalCORN]

You think someone suddenly changes his opinion on women when his daughter is born? How does that work? Radical GOPs have no daughters? Radical islamists turn liberal WRAs?

The mormon church is a beacon for treatment towards women, Look at how many you can marry at once!

 

[RPGCrazied]

Who? And sorry coming out for Trump now just shows how much of a terrible person you are. Period.

 

[DasPenguin]

Having just started listening to the podcast, the first section mentioned in the original post (about Trump grabbing women by the pussy) is one hundred percent comedic.
They are both laughing and joking. This is not serious political commentary. They are clearly laughing and joking on a comedic podcast.

I've been listening to Burr for years. He was even trying to steer Rogan into the direction that Trump has done some of the stuff he's being accused of. "How many accusations do you need to believe the victims?" or something to that effect. And he's made fun of Trump for ages now. He's no fan of Hillary either, but most definitely not a fan of Trump.

Don't know Rogan at all, but the part where he discussed inequality, I don't think he said it was a lie, first of all. I think he said that the percentage of the difference between wages was incorrect.

Again, sports shouldn't be used as an example because too many things affect what each league makes. There will never be equal play in sports, except maybe for tennis majors. Those should be equal because WTA is so popular, as long as both men and women play in the best of five format. I don't think that's the case right now.