Nameless
Member
Faster UI, better network card, plus generally faster loading times, even for unpatched games. All around snappier experience.
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Faster UI, better network card, plus generally faster loading times, even for unpatched games. All around snappier experience.
Super_Cobra
Member
Sounds good. I've noticed that my old PS4's UI is considerably slower than when I first bought it. I guess I'll be picking up a pro with my Christmas bonus.
My Pro is at least as fast, probably faster, but that's hard to really measure when the UI was already pretty good before on the OG.
Melchiah
Member
Lol nah, watch it with your girlfriend for brownie points and a good movie
I might do that some day, unless there are singing scenes. I can live without the brownie points, if that's the case.
If it was full backwards compatible it might not be so bad. The Scorpios specs seem like such a missed opportunity to have to be tied down to XB1's 1.31TFs.
RedAssedApe
Banned
was at best buy the other day and saw a shit ton of consoles on the floor. both slim/pro, and xbone. wonder if yoy is down
But Sony only had the Unwanted 4 bundle against such fantastic Xbox deals!
PS4 Pro was a flop and UHD BR drives were supposed to be the must have items of the holiday season 2016.
Emmmm....LOL.
Now seriously...it was obvious that Sony's strategy this year was to take the holiday season while the wait for the Pro and the temporary lack of deals on the Slim damaged sales in the pre-season months. But those lost sales were pretty much irrelevant and bounded to be recouped over the holiday period.
With Sony having great deals over Cyber Monday, a new price cut to 249$ lasting for two weeks period and a few exclusive bundles like the special FFXV Luna edition, December will also be a huge month for PS4.
PS4 Pro was a flop and UHD BR drives were supposed to be the must have items of the holiday season 2016.
Emmmm....LOL.
Now seriously...it was obvious that Sony's strategy this year was to take the holiday season while the wait for the Pro and the temporary lack of deals on the Slim damaged sales in the pre-season months. But those lost sales were pretty much irrelevant and bounded to be recouped over the holiday period.
With Sony having great deals over Cyber Monday, a new price cut to 249$ lasting for two weeks period and a few exclusive bundles like the special FFXV Luna edition, December will also be a huge month for PS4.
I might do that some day, unless there are singing scenes. I can live without the brownie points, if that's the case.
It's a Disney movie, so there's singing lol
I was at a BB last weekend and they had two huge pallets of Xbox One S and one huge pallet of PS4 Slim. There were 3 Pros available.
Metalingus5150
Member
Wat explains the world wide lack of appeal for the other xboxes?
I don't think this industry is ready for a new gen right now. These mid gen upgrades seem to be the way to for publishers. I think EA said it's no extra R&D to port games to Scorpio or Pro. Their engine is scaleable. A new gen would require imo more powerful hardware and for companies to spend millions in R&D making new engines to accommodate that.
Melchiah
Member
Even the 360 failed to outsell the PS3 in Europe, so I don't know what the Scorpio could do to change that.
Duxxy3
Member
360 did pretty well world wide.
dragonzdogma
Member
UHD movies are not that big of a deal,
and besides the good movies aren't getting the UHD treatment any time soon.
Melchiah
Member
That's why I don't watch them.
Crimson_Echidna
Banned
Uh...the Xbox 1S release, not to mention the looming release of Pro and Slim, helped MS sell the most the past 3 months.
I can't believe people thought that a UHD Blu-Ray player held any kind of market sway.
The online shouting match that it's absence caused tried it's damnedest to make it sound important.
I believe ~60% of Xbox 360 sales were in North America and UK.
Xbox isn't a worldwide brand like Playstation.
The Xbox One definitely did additional damage to the Xbox brand in markets outside the US. Its marketing core was on the TV overlay, sports compliment programs (particularly American football), and other US-centric features. Didn't play well to an international consumer.
Probably nothing. There's more to it than specs. While I think it's great that they're building off of the groundwork of the Xbox One, so system/online features are intact day one, it doesn't change their games library, which is lacking compared to the competition.
Did people around here really think the lack of a UHD blu-ray player would hurt Sony that much?
360 still lost but it did a lot better market share wise.
The problem is that markets like germany have grown a lot this gen and the growth was almost exclusively PS4.
I always said that shit didn't matter in picking a console. Most people don't even have the tech to take advantage of that.
Hidden One
Member
Microsoft is done
Dash_Riprock
Member
I doubt its most vocal supporters even cared about it. It was just one thing the XB1 had over the PS4 so that latched on.
Read the thread were no UHD for the Pro was announced.
It was ironic
It was obvious to all but a few Microsoft fans that UHD were pretty much a non factor, the current lineup is really poor and everyone but videophiles has moved on to Netflix and streaming services.
Oh yes those cheap 4K TVs selling like hot cakes during Black Friday bundled with a XB1S were supposed to rule November.
I'm not going to call out anyone because honestly it's not worth it but the amount of bullshit thrown around in September when the Pro was announced was outstanding...
Duxxy3
Member
No, but it was an improvement over the original xbox. Xbox One was a huge step back.
DirgeExtinction
Member
A little off topic, but it's something I've noticed in quite a few retailers here in Florida. A lot of the big retailers(Target, Best Buy, Walmart, etc) have bigger sections reserved for Xbox games/accessories compared the the PlayStation sections. Also, it seems like the TVs used to demo the games are better calibrated when hooked up to an xb1 than a ps4. That last point might just be me, though.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Bits N Pieces
Member
Good to see an active NPD thread for a change.
You must have missed the massive thread and other think-pieces.
Nameless
Member
Never even bothered responding to those who acted like the One S was a better buy than the Pro based on UHD. What gamer buys worse gaming hardware because movies look prettier? Absolute non-sense. UHD would be nice to have, and I wouldn't be shocked to see Pro and/or Slim revisions include it, but its importance was definitely overblown.
Not yet. Have to see by how much they lost the regular season in their strongest territory first.
Thebeardofknowledge
Banned
This is amazing
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Yes.
Was cyber Monday in November still or December? If former, then I bought the Slim in November in preparation for playing TLG this holiday.
bananafactory
Banned
They can't actually have believed it, I assume most were joking.
Isn't the 4k adoption rate for TVs like 1%?
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
O ppl weren't joking to many threads were made
SneakersSO
Member
It was one of the only other things announced about RDR2 back when it was unveiled.
The Mad Draklor
Member
Cyber Monday is technically in November, but it counts for December NPD
FinalStageBoss
Banned
Knack 2 announcement moving units
Not sure if you're saying 40% isn't significant or the 40% sales were from Mars
Dash_Riprock
Member
thelastword
Banned
I would also take a guess that most of the people saying that, didn't even have one UHD bluray in their collection.
Yes, which is funny considering its adaptation.
Melchiah
Member
Those kind of region specific features didn't do it any favors. It most likely hurt the brand to some extent in Europe. Not to mention, banking on Kinect. Plus, their mindshare had probably diminished due to the lack of (non-Kinect) 1st party releases in the later years of last gen.