Relaxed Muscle
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Not for nothing, but the second phase has no QTE. Third phase does.
Does that really count as third phase?
Not for nothing, but the second phase has no QTE. Third phase does.
Does that really count as third phase?
Levels don't actually seem to matter as much as one might think in this game. It seemed like equipment and investing AP wisely was far more important.
Does that really count as third phase?
Yes. And I still think that the leaker meant that phase with "monster ardyn" because he starts to get corrupted in that battle.
You seem like a really pleasant, well-rounded person.
Would have been nice if Noctis was the one to transform into a final form in the final battle. Like King Arthur armored form or something.
Yes?
Noctis being able to fly when he brings out the full set of cutlery still has me scratching my head.
Noctis being able to fly when he brings out the full set of cutlery still has me scratching my head.
If there absolutely had to be a playable battle with Ardyn in the afterlife, maybe the "decaying Jesus" approach would be worthwhile for a final form that provided a meaningful visual progression but retained the 1v1 intimacy.
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I'd imagine it being kind of like the Shadowlord in Nier.
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Honestly, if there was some sort of godly/monstrous transformation, I'm glad it got cut. Wouldn't fit his character IMHO.
Honestly, if there was some sort of godly/monstrous transformation, I'm glad it got cut. Wouldn't fit his character IMHO.
Lunafrena?
That's her name in the Japanese version for...reasons.
Perfection.
Wouldn't fit his character IMHO.
Any excuse to remove those awful clothes.
It would have been nice, some kind of transformation. Like an humanoid godly being.
The game went animu for the final battle, may as well go full animu.
Any excuse to remove those awful clothes.
That's kinda the look I wanted to see in a "final form", Ardyn with darkness streaming out of his body (like in the painting), but seeing him break apart (revealing darkness within him) would've been damn awesome.If there absolutely had to be a playable battle with Ardyn in the afterlife, maybe the "decaying Jesus" approach would be worthwhile for a final form that provided a meaningful visual progression but retained the 1v1 intimacy.
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I'd imagine it being kind of like the Shadowlord in Nier.
Awful clothes? Ardyn was stylish as hell.
Agreed. I was actually super glad that they didn't put the monster transformation stuff this time around. It was a refreshing rest from the cliché.
It most certainly was, but thats my real problem with it. Scene would have been much better served if it was shown when you were actually camping. It just skips right by it to save the emotional moment until the credits. It wouldve made Noctis walking away from the bros so much more powerful if you wouldve seen his resolve beforehand.
So many damn flashbacks in this game...Most of Luna's screentime is flashbacks.
It reached the height of ridiculousness with Ultimecia.
Honestly, if there was some sort of godly/monstrous transformation, I'm glad it got cut. Wouldn't fit his character IMHO.
Honestly, if there was some sort of godly/monstrous transformation, I'm glad it got cut. Wouldn't fit his character IMHO.
How would it not fit ?
The dude's entire existence is tightly linked to Daemons.
If anything it would finally make sense,like for the first time in the series.lol
I dunno. Just feels out of place for him. Not just in FF, but I feel like RPGs in general use the trope of "I'M THE FINAL BOSS, WITNESS MY GLORIOUS TRANSFORMATION" is overused. I enjoyed the hint of darkness within Ardyn without turning him into some sort of demon. King vs Usurper felt more appropriate to me than Party vs Final Boss Demon Monster.
The transformation didn't have to be grossly exaggerated.It could be subtle.
Its very relevant to his character to show that he's been corrupted & thus transformed physically into something inhuman.
I think its a missed opportunity.
2. Prompto's a robot?? I mean I'm sure he has a soul and obviously ages like a human, but this was glossed over so damn fast with no explanation, I can only assume it'll be covered in his DLC episode.
Now that I'm finished, I can finally join the spoiler thread! Despite the story being such a mess, I really loved the game and it's one of my favorite FF's. My spoilery thoughts:
1. The Fleuret's were robbed. I feel so dumb for thinking Ravus might be the main villain, even dumber than when I thought Nabaat would be for XIII. The short clips of Stella were more interesting to me than anything we got from Luna. I was more than willing to give Luna a chance, but she felt like such an afterthought. It's not that I hated her character, but I barely got the chance to know her at all. I mean, she had two whole scenes where she said NOTHING AT ALL, and she only had like 6 or 7 overall! MESS. Surprisingly though, her death scene still managed to move me somehow, and the flashbacks in Tenebrae showed some vulnerability behind her "must help Noctis" persona.
2. Prompto's a robot?? I mean I'm sure he has a soul and obviously ages like a human, but this was glossed over so damn fast with no explanation, I can only assume it'll be covered in his DLC episode.
3. I didn't care for Ardyn at first, but by the end I thought he was a great thematic foil to Noctis. At times I wondered if Ardyn wanted to die and was trying to create the perfect circumstances for Noctis to be able to end his immortality, but in the end I guess he just wanted revenge on the Lucis line and wanted the showdown to be as theatrical as possible. I loved the final battle, but I didn't like that the bros were left out of it completely, considering the whole "Stand by Me" theme, lol. Also, since getting those summons seemed so important, I would've liked to see them used against Ardyn.
4. Noct was a fantastic FF protagonist, and atm my favorite. I found him to be a charming, caring person with amusing quirks that made him feel real, and a good but subtle sense of humor. His journey of a prince burdened by the weight of destiny and learning to embrace his fate was one of the well told aspects of the story for me. His sacrifice at the end was very moving, especially the moment with Regis. The camp scene was so damn sad. ;_;
5. Loved the logo reveal. I always figured it was Luna/Stella in some ethereal form, but I wasn't expecting the Noctis addition. I assume the idea is that they've become "gods" or that they've finally found peace together in the afterlife? I guess it's left rather ambiguously.
Unless both Noctis and Ardyn both turned into some final godly form, I don't believe it would be fun to watch. I liked how it ended.
2. Prompto's a robot?? I mean I'm sure he has a soul and obviously ages like a human, but this was glossed over so damn fast with no explanation, I can only assume it'll be covered in his DLC episode.
2. Prompto's a robot?? I mean I'm sure he has a soul and obviously ages like a human, but this was glossed over so damn fast with no explanation, I can only assume it'll be covered in his DLC episode.
I guess Noctis could have taken his shirt off as well?
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He is not a robot but a normal human being, as all the MT and daemons started out. He was experimented on though when he was a little child and if he didn't manage to escape Niflheim he would have probably ended an MT and ultimately a demon.
Another interesting thing:
The official game guide reveals he is Verstaels biological son. Let's see if this will be ever addressed in the actual game.
Prompto's situation isn't totally clear - as Verstael's son, he's not a typical MT; but he obviously had some part in the Niflheim demon experimentation program. I'm hoping the DLC will clear it up as well.
Imagine that final battle where two naked guys are flying around the city...
Prompto was probably part of a cloning program that the empire orchestrated after they realized they could mass produce MTs.
''I am the real me'',maybe he was based on Verstael's son & not his actual son.
I felt like this totally came out of nowhere.Was this hinted at in brotherhood ?
Nope, though it does show him wearing the wristband covering his code thing.
I dunno if I like that twist.
It would've been nice to have prompto be someone who's just naturally insecure as so many of us are.
It didn't have to be ''Oh well didn't you know I am a lab rat! Its why I am so insecure about having friends''
Prompto's entire arc isn't convincing anyway.He already has 3 amazing lifelong friends,that's more than can be said about most people in real life.
Why am I supposed to be convinced that he's struggling socially ? His actual situation doesn't betray that.