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[WillyFive]

Seems like they took the 3D World engine and made a 3D Mario game with it; but the lighting the engine provides didn't look that good in the realistic city environment. I'm sure they will fix it by launch, along with Mario's run cycle, which is really poor.

 

[pixelation]

C'mon man.

Maybe not that bad, but they do look BAD.

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

I'm still really excited for it, and no doubt gonna day-1 it when it comes out.

But man, something like this really makes me appreciate how carefully and thoughtfully Disney handles the treatment of its characters. Remember all the rules and talks Disney supposedly had with SE regarding how and when what characters could appear in what worlds? I honestly thought Nintendo had the same philosophy, but maybe not.

I understand and appreciate the "fish out of water" quality they seem to be going for in the city (and even forest) portions. I also get that the theme is traversing a bunch of a varied and different worlds on one big journey. I'm just not convinced that they couldn't convey this without making things look visually incongruous to this degree.

 

[a916]

This has the same art style problem as Zelda.

They have this super cartoony stylised look to Mario and most of his worlds... and it looks jarring and terrible when put up next to photo realistic grass and textures. It just looks really mis matched.

 

[BigEmil]

Maybe not that bad, but they do look BAD.

Think the main thing about the graphics is it's very low geometry and simple details, geometry reminiscent of PS3 360 era and some of the textures etc while the coloured shading on Mario and the sorts always look good any gen

 

[Skel1ingt0n]

I'm still really excited for it, and no doubt gonna day-1 it when it comes out.

But man, something like this really makes me appreciate how carefully and thoughtfully Disney handles the treatment of its characters. Remember all the rules and talks Disney supposedly had with SE regarding how and when what characters could appear in what worlds? I honestly thought Nintendo had the same philosophy, but maybe not.

I understand and appreciate the "fish out of water" quality they seem to be going for in the city (and even forest) portions. I also get that the theme is traversing a bunch of a varied and different worlds on one big journey. I'm just not convinced that they couldn't convey this without making things look visually incongruous to this degree.

Do you have any sources on this - for how SE was given rules by Disney for KH?

I'd just love to read that - sounds interesting.

 

[-griffy-]

I'm trying to even understand why there are regular ass people. I thought Mario, Luigi, Peach, Wario, etc were regular ass people cause this is a cartoon.

 

[UrbanRats]

I'm still really excited for it, and no doubt gonna day-1 it when it comes out.

But man, something like this really makes me appreciate how carefully and thoughtfully Disney handles the treatment of its characters. Remember all the rules and talks Disney supposedly had with SE regarding how and when what characters could appear in what worlds? I honestly thought Nintendo had the same philosophy, but maybe not.

I understand and appreciate the "fish out of water" quality they seem to be going for in the city (and even forest) portions. I also get that the theme is traversing a bunch of a varied and different worlds on one big journey. I'm just not convinced that they couldn't convey this without making things look visually incongruous to this degree.

NYC and dark forest portions look outright offputting to me.
I'll try to spend as little time as possible in those areas.

Like, i don't know what the hell were they thinking, but it looks like a bad "Mario on UE4" tech demo.

 

[Pompadour]

I'm still really excited for it, and no doubt gonna day-1 it when it comes out.

But man, something like this really makes me appreciate how carefully and thoughtfully Disney handles the treatment of its characters. Remember all the rules and talks Disney supposedly had with SE regarding how and when what characters could appear in what worlds? I honestly thought Nintendo had the same philosophy, but maybe not.

I understand and appreciate the "fish out of water" quality they seem to be going for in the city (and even forest) portions. I also get that the theme is traversing a bunch of a varied and different worlds on one big journey. I'm just not convinced that they couldn't convey this without making things look visually incongruous to this degree.

I think Nintendo didn't have a great, new idea for Mario and a Mario game was needed to sell their new console so they landed on this weird idea. I'm sure the game itself will be good but Galaxy and 3D World's conceits were much more interesting. Of course, we've seen very little of the game.

 

[Rygar 8 Bit]

I'm trying to even understand why there are regular ass people. I thought Mario, Luigi, Peach, Wario, etc were regular ass people cause this is a cartoon.

they are supposed to be

 

[Peltz]

I think Nintendo didn't have a great, new idea for Mario and a Mario game was needed to sell their new console so they landed on this weird idea. I'm sure the game itself will be good but Galaxy and 3D World's conceits were much more interesting. Of course, we've seen very little of the game.

I think the idea is great. I like the contrasting humanoids.

 

[orioto]

Beyond the realistic city, i'm more concerned with the different art-styles (by that i mean every world has a different one it seems) and even more the fact that Mario doesn't seem to do a lot of interesting things in there. But Miyamoto said it would be more for gamers so.. I guess i'll have to trust him.

 

[Pompadour]

NYC and dark forest portions look outright offputting to me.
I'll try to spend as little time as possible in those areas.

Like, i don't know what the hell were they thinking, but it looks like a bad "Mario on UE4" tech demo.

Now that I look at it again it feels like they're copying Wreck-It Ralph where he travels through very tonally and aesthetically different worlds.

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

Do you have any sources on this - for how SE was given rules by Disney for KH?

I'd just love to read that - sounds interesting.

I'm on mobile but it was mostly mentioned in small portions by SE/Nomura in interviews.

 

[Solid SOAP]

Beyond the realistic city, i'm more concerned with the different art-styles (by that i mean every world has a different one it seems) and even more the fact that Mario doesn't seem to do a lot of interesting things in there. But Miyamoto said it would be more for gamers so.. I guess i'll have to trust him.

Mario looks to be able to interact with the world in lots of different and fun ways. Swinging on poles, jumping off of car hoods, wall jumping from building to building.. looks awesome

 

[orioto]

Now that I look at it again it feels like they're copying Wreck-It Ralph where he travels through very tonally and aesthetically different worlds.

Well yeah that's the thing, didn't anyone notice really ? There is a Low poly world for christ sake..

Mario looks to be able to interact with the world in lots of different and fun ways. Swinging on poles, jumping off of car hoods, wall jumping from building to building.. looks awesome

I'm more talking about level design. Even Mario 64 has platforming levels..

 

[paragonpro]

Why are you guys so negative on this it looks like a wonderful return to form for 3d mario. The realistic city clash is really neat and its only one world of presumably several.

 

[WaterAstro]

Artstyle looks super bad.

Gameplay seems reminiscent of Mario 64, I guess?

 

[kendrake]

im convinced the people shown is a homage to rockstar

 

[ZeroGravity]

The art style is perfect for what they're going for. Mario is SUPPOSED to stand out, and they really nailed the happy medium between too realistic and too cartoony.

 

[Fou-Lu]

I am almost certain this will be my favourite Mario platformer of all time. The movement and power ups look incredible, the worlds are so unique and open. Sandbox Mario is back!

 

[Sky Chief]

The IQ in the city is appalling, just a jaggy, shimmery mess

 

[Jashobeam]

this should have been a launch title, but I guess they need to save it for the Holidays due to lack of software.

 

[Dominator]

Soooooo is Mario not a human then?

 

[SuperSah]

I keep laughing so hard at business men in suits walking about in a Mario game.

It's so strange!

 

[clav]

No live gameplay. Difficult to gauge a product at current state.

Art direction looks like heading toward Sonic 2006 hence a lot of anxious comments. Seems odd to add human figures resembling generic background characters in the Mario world.

 

[killertofu]

The quasi realistic NYC looks nasty.

 

[pixelation]

Should be bigger given the extra power compared to the Wii-U.

Which leads me to my next question. Ignoring art style, do you guys think this looks like a decent graphical jump from SM3DW?

Not at all, and it pains me to say it... Nintendo sure know how to dissapoint

 

[HappyBivouac]

https://twitter.com/clastowka/status/819947865267204096

lol

Holy shit this is the best.

 

[Kalnos]

interesting idea but assets don't look good in the city at all

 

[DooMAGE]

Some ppl are trying too hard to make this game bad. It's kinda cute. lmao

 

[vivekTO]

I'm not sure about them. If you look closer at the humans walking around in the city, they look like they're from the N64.

Ok i just wanted to use it.

 

[Debirudog]

Seems like they took the 3D World engine and made a 3D Mario game with it; but the lighting the engine provides didn't look that good in the realistic city environment. I'm sure they will fix it by launch, along with Mario's run cycle, which is really poor.

The 3D World engine is actually very good but it's not very apparent in 3D world because most levels were just comprised of simple cubical shapes. They really improved this on Treasure Tracker.

 

[PanicFreak]

I'm trying to even understand why there are regular ass people. I thought Mario, Luigi, Peach, Wario, etc were regular ass people cause this is a cartoon.

I assume that one of the Mushroom Kingdom pipes took a left instead of a right and he ended up in 80's America.

 

[TheJoRu]

Love the animations on display here, Mario's really expressive which I very much enjoy.

 

[Puruzi]

I'm a little bit disappointed that people thinks this looks better than 3D World. That game was pure platforming perfection, but this doesn't look too hot in that area. I'll still buy it and it might be fun but I wished they kept the 3D ____ formula.

 

[silva1991]

More areas being shown after a few mushrooms:

Oh goodness gracious.

 

[Debirudog]

No live gameplay. Difficult to gauge a product at current state.

Art direction looks like heading toward Sonic 2006 hence a lot of anxious comments. Seems odd to add human figures resembling generic background characters in the Mario world.

I don't understand this at all regarding the art direction. Not all of the levels look like the city.

 

[shtolky]

Why are you guys so negative on this it looks like a wonderful return to form for 3d mario. The realistic city clash is really neat and its only one world of presumably several.

Seriously. When has a 3D Mario not been amazing? People asked for a return to the Mario 64 type exploration game, that's what we are getting, and it isn't enough. People ask Nintendo to change, we get some weird NYC type level in a Mario game and people complain about the look of it. Some people are hard to please. I, for one, cannot wait to get my hands on this game.

 

[HeelPower]

Graphically,tt looks like a bit nicer Sonic 2006. :s

I dont like the look of the City at all.Other places are a bit better.

 

[Alienous]

I don't understand this at all regarding the art direction. Not all of the levels look like the city.

Yeah, the forest looks worse.

 

[Archpath1]

Reminded me of that Halloween episode of Simpsons when homer goes 3d then ends up in the real world.

 

[Arkam]

Looks SO GOOD! Going to be hard to wait on this one.

 

[clav]

I don't understand this at all regarding the art direction. Not all of the levels look like the city.

Humans walking/interacting with a popular mascot in game.

Of course people are anxious.

Again, there's nothing really to conclude since no live gameplay. We'll all have a better look at E3.

 

[Mik317]

The least of Sonic 06's problems were its use of realistic looking human characters. Like holy shit guys.

It's one world of what should be many. Its not the Mushroom Kingdom. Its a world hopping adventure. Kingdom Hearts did this for example.

Of all of the many complaints about the Switch, this is the weirdest one.

 

[dh4niel]

I need a gif of this scene. Makes me smile.

 

[ultrazilla]

The IQ in the city is appalling, just a jaggy, shimmery mess

And it's not due out until the end of this year basically?

Nintendo will clean this up nice. I think it looked fine but it *could* use some touch ups in certain areas. There's no way the graphics are locked down at this point. Not much to worry about IMO.

 

[ymgve]

City isn't a hub world, just a level. You can mostly see the extent of it if you pause the trailer at the right moment:

 

[Debirudog]

Humans walking/interacting with a popular mascot in game.

Of course people are anxious.

Again, there's nothing really to conclude since no live gameplay. We'll all have a better look at E3.

But we have Mario walking in a blocky vegetable garden with talking cartoony cooking utensils. That's not very realistic at all and it's a lot more closer to the aesthestic we're used to seeing of Mario.

I'm sticking by my comment that the devs really want to experiment this game with a variety of artstyles in a 3D environment.

 

[Nepenthe]

Are people triggered by that one Bugs Bunny cartoon where he and Elmer Fudd were working in what was supposed to be a real nightclub populated by actual movie stars in the 30s and 40s?