FWIW, from reading press impressions from Switch demos, it sounds like many/most people actually prefer using Joycons in the Joycon holder over using the Pro Controller. One article I read said there's even a screen at the start of Zelda that recommends you use Joycons instead of the Pro Controller.
Oh it's not about foresight, it's a deliberate decision on their part.
That said, I wouldn't be surprised if it changed at some point.
FWIW, from reading press impressions from Switch demos, it sounds like many/most people actually prefer using Joycons in the Joycon holder over using the Pro Controller. One article I read said there's even a screen at the start of Zelda that recommends you use Joycons instead of the Pro Controller.
Best Buy put up some switch accessories for pre-order today. Good way to use the Visa Checkout $25 of $100 promo. I ordered the BOTW amiibos and a charging grip and got $25 off.
We dont need to go too far down the rabbit hole to get to basic data support. It would be highly unlikely to put USB on the dock and not have it support the USB data lines. The ethernet adapter support really closes the door on any technical concerns.
The issues would be maters of practicality. External HDD based games would crash when Switch was removed from the dock.
So the Switch would have to copy the game over to internal memory at boot, which would be like installing the game ever time you boot it.
I love cheap external hard drives, but heck with my Wii U I used a USB stick for one port and size simplicity. You could have multiple microSD cards for a reasonable price. Not the best price per GB, but the physical size can't be beat.
Just get a pro then. Only get joy cons if you think you want more than two player motion controlled games, are want to do 4 player MK or whatever with the joy cons as individual controllers.
Otherwise, the pro controller is $70 vs. $80 for a joycon pair plus $30 for the charger grip, or $15 for a third party non-charging grip (GameStop has some up).
Just takes a little thinking outside your box and some empathy to see why thing that don't negatively affect us can be bigger issues for others.
Really? I wouldn't have expected that.
It doesn't matter if you're not happy about it. You're doing it, that's all that matters in the business sense.
So I just wonder: why would you need a second dock? Everything you need for gameplay is inside the box already. The only additional things you might need are:
- A pro controller
- 2 joycons + (charging) grip
If you have a second TV somewhere and really want to not move the dock along, then I'll get your point. But how many of us really run into that problem? Especially since the Switch can be used everywhere?
My only grip is why they put two different colored joycons on the system. I would love a neon-blue only joycons god dangit.
So if they sold it without the dock it be 220?
They do sell a two-pack of blue joycons, they also sell a neon two-pack that is the inverse of the neon console. Such that, if you were to buy the neon console, then the neon two-pack, you would be able to switch between dual reds, dual blues, or one of each.
All of these options require dropping $80 though. :/
No. That's not how margins work.
We dont need to go too far down the rabbit hole to get to basic data support. It would be highly unlikely to put USB on the dock and not have it support the USB data lines. The ethernet adapter support really closes the door on any technical concerns.
The issues would be maters of practicality. External HDD based games would crash when Switch was removed from the dock.
So the Switch would have to copy the game over to internal memory at boot, which would be like installing the game ever time you boot it.
I love cheap external hard drives, but heck with my Wii U I used a USB stick for one port and size simplicity. You could have multiple microSD cards for a reasonable price. Not the best price per GB, but the physical size can't be beat.
No, they just want you to buy the console itself. They inflate the price perception with accessories, but every hardware producer does that. A 360 controller is never worth $50 to begin with. Just like the Vita Memory Cards are not worth their price (they're like 10 times as expensive as normal SD cards).
So I just wonder: why would you need a second dock? Everything you need for gameplay is inside the box already. The only additional things you might need are:
- A pro controller
- 2 joycons + (charging) grip
If you have a second TV somewhere and really want to not move the dock along, then I'll get your point. But how many of us really run into that problem? Especially since the Switch can be used everywhere?
Personally I go to my mom's house every few weeks to spend the night/weekend. Occasionally my wife comes. It'd be nice to have a dock there so we can play some games on some down time. At first the cost of an extra dock immediately had me saying absolutely not, but I'm re-considering..
Yeah I know it wouldn't, but it looks bad.
But if they sold it without the dock, grip, and hdmi!
They do sell a two-pack of blue joycons, they also sell a neon two-pack that is the inverse of the neon console. Such that, if you were to buy the neon console, then the neon two-pack, you would be able to switch between dual reds, dual blues, or one of each.
All of these options require dropping $80 though. :/
Is it that hard to travel with the dock, though? It's just an AC Adapter, the tiny dock, and an HDMI cableobviously, it may be inconvenient depending on how you have it hooked into a home stereo setup, but it doesn't require a second dock to move to a second location.
Why are they selling it if you dont need it?
Is it that hard to travel with the dock, though? It's just an AC Adapter, the tiny dock, and an HDMI cableobviously, it may be inconvenient depending on how you have it hooked into a home stereo setup, but it doesn't require a second dock to move to a second location.
I don't have a use for it as I only game in my mancave, don't have kids etc.
But I can easily see why others would want a second dock.
Easy moving between a main area TV for the kids/families to use or during parties and the gaming room/media room/mancave/whatever where the Gaffer does their gaming.
Use at multiple households. Lots of uses there, people that go back home regularly and want to game with parents/siblings, divorced families where they want the kids they share custody of to be able to bring their switch along without having to unhook the dock everytime.
Specfic uses for sure, but it's the same problem with people not seeing why not having the charger grip attached is such an annoyance for some. People to easily dismiss other's usages and needs when they don't mirror their own.
No charger grip is no problem for someone who'll regularly switch and/or have the dock easily accessible. But it's a kick in the nuts to the console only gamer who's already annoyed that they have to buy this hybrid device to play Nintendo games when they'll never use the tablet an would like to stick it back in a shelf in their tv cabinet out of site--but have to buy a $30 charger grip to do that as otherwise its a pain to regularly get to the tablet to charge joycons.
$90 dock is absurdly priced, but most don't care as they have no use to have it docked to more than one TV. But it stings for a divorced parent wanting his children to be able to easily play switch on TV at both mom and dad's house. Or the family saving to buy one who'd like to easily be able to move it between the big screen in the living room to a secondary TV so their kids can play when they want without causing fights over a TV.
Just takes a little thinking outside your box and some empathy to see why thing that don't negatively affect us can be bigger issues for others.
Oh don't do that. I've had N64 controllers and Game Cube controllers whose thumb stick would just dangle off center. Wii remotes stop functioning and stop connecting with my Wii and the same thumb stick problem with the Wii nunchuck. In that same light, my PS2, PS3 controllers still work fine and I've had 3 Dualshock 4's since launch and they work flawlessly. Let's stop acting like your precious Nintendo is safe from hardware malfunction.My game pad still works fine, my Wii U pro controller too, but 3 different DS4 have broken on me (triggers). I'll pay more for Nintendo controllers, I've never had one break on me going all the way back to the NES.
Oh don't do that. I've had N64 controllers and Game Cube controllers whose thumb stick would just dangle off center. Wii remotes stop functioning and stop connecting with my Wii and the same thumb stick problem with the Wii nunchuck. In that same light, my PS2, PS3 controllers still work fine and I've had 3 Dualshock 4's since launch and they work flawlessly. Let's stop acting like your precious Nintendo is safe from hardware malfunction.