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No Netflix on the Switch according to Bussiness Insider

Am I crazy or was there something about the Wii U's netflix app getting shut down? Possibly just in the UK/Europe.
Wonder if the two are related (assuming I've not gone crazy).

Some device of mine definitely gave me this warning. Maybe it was my PS3...
 

jonno394

Member
I think people are overestimating the importance of this. People carry smart phones with them everywhere, having a switch won't stop that. I browse the internet more on my smart phone than anything else.

I am also fortunate enough that my phone has a 5.5" screen (so not much smaller than the switch) so If I want to watch netflix, I can watch it on that (i wont)

Anything people want the switch to do other than console gaming can be done on another device they ALWAYS carry with them.
 

GrayDock

Member
Yeah. To me this just signals one of two things, and neither of them are good:

1.) This thing just really isn't ready for prime time yet. There's been little focus on the OS. the online infrastructure doesn't really seem in place yet. Day one launch lineup is pretty anemic. If feels like this device could really benefit from another delay, but they need it and Zelda out to generate revenue before the end of the fiscal year.

Personally, I'm leaning more on point the first, as the second one just strikes me as too bizarre to be plausible.

I said that before: The terrible WiiU situation forced N to rush it's schedule. The Switch will have Netflix, a browser, a youtube app, etc., but not in it's march launch date, it'll have all of those at fall/holidays, which probably was it's planned release date.
 
This is exactly the point. My PS4 is constantly on because the family is watching Netflix on it or Blu rays or playing games. If it was just used for gaming, It wouldn't be turned on nearly as much.

Yep... My PS4/Xbox One wouldn't be used even half as often if it weren't for streaming apps. The Switch is not yet confirmed to go without these apps entirely, but anyone saying they don't make a difference is crazy.
 

jonno394

Member
Yep... My PS4/Xbox One wouldn't be used even half as often if it weren't for streaming apps. The Switch is not yet confirmed to go without these apps entirely, but anyone saying they don't make a difference is crazy.

But you have a PS4 if you want Netflix, if you then have a PS4 and a Switch why is it important/terrible if this doesn't utilise it?
 

zeemumu

Member
Sucks but I'm in range of at least one device with Netflix at any given time, so it's not that big an inconvenience
 
I think people are overestimating the importance of this. People carry smart phones with them everywhere, having a switch won't stop that. I browse the internet more on my smart phone than anything else.

I am also fortunate enough that my phone has a 5.5" screen (so not much smaller than the switch) so If I want to watch netflix, I can watch it on that (i wont)

Anything people want the switch to do other than console gaming can be done on another device they ALWAYS carry with them.
The only device I always carry with me is my phone. I don't own an iPad or tablet, so if the Switch used some of the features from those devices it'd likely motivate me not to purchase them and be happy with my Switch.
 

phanphare

Banned
You are the exception, not the rule.

I'm talking specifically about your browser usage. Like...why?

Then again I'm not sure if that softmod that goes through the browser exploit logs time as browser usage. That's the only explanation I can think of here.

the Wii U browser is great for streaming content
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
But you have a PS4 if you want Netflix, if you then have a PS4 and a Switch why is it important/terrible if this doesn't utilise it?

"We don't need [feature/application] on our system because everything else has it" isn't exactly a good selling point.
 

jonno394

Member
"We don't need [feature/application] on our system because everything else has it" isn't exactly a good selling point.

"we're making a home console that you can take on the go" is the only selling point this needs imo :shrug:

If people are looking at the switch, it's because they want a console gaming machine they can play at home or away. Suddenly realising it doesn't have netflix isn't going to make them stop and say "hang on, I'll make do with an ipad" because it then won't give them the console gaming experience they were interested in in the first place.
 

opricnik

Banned
Thing is its just addes to negatives in Switch comparison to other consoles, considering hardware they shouldnt fucked up in software from apps to games to paid online or price to get people buy Nintendo hardware. But Nintendo making this so hard for themselves. Overpriced accessories,old as hell ports and inferior even in those. Online paid and lack of games build up to switch also adds. So far only worthwhile game built up by Switch looks like have release date as Holiday 2017.
 

flkraven

Member
"Why would you want Netflix on your Nintendo when you have it on other consoles, tablets, phones, etc"

"Voice chat on your phone is actually pretty smart. Why do we need voice chat on the console?"

At what point does the question become "What justification is there to spend $300us on a Switch?"

If my phone has Netflix, games, better battery life and voice chat, why don't I just stay there?

It'll show up eventually. Right now Nintendo needs to focus on the games aspect. The media apps can come later.

You mean like the 5 games scheduled to come out in the first year?
 

jonno394

Member
If my phone has Netflix, games, better battery life and voice chat, why don't I just stay there?

Because your phone doesn't play home console games?

If you then say it's not worth it, then a dedicated gaming device clearly isn't what you wanted if you can make do with mobile games (imo)
 

opricnik

Banned
Don't pretend the Vita was a proper home console experience like the Switch will be. It didnt even have HDMI out.

Neither does Switch has power of PS4. It will get downgraded ports. Same thing PS3 - VITA. Vita got downgraded ports like UMVC3(ran amazing), SFxTekken,NFS Most Wanted,PS All Stars, Mortal Kombat 9, Injustice,CoD(not exactly port ), FIFA etc. All looked like downgraded PS3 ports.

It ran a previous gen games just fine(PS2).

Whats difference exactly? Switch runs downgraded ports of current gen. Also can have graphics previous games built up(Wii U-PS3 gen)
 

flkraven

Member
Because your phone doesn't play home console games?

If you then say it's not worth it, then a dedicated gaming device clearly isn't what you wanted if you can make do with mobile games (imo)

But it's far and away the least powerful in the console space. And the 'power level' of a Switch isn't much more than a high end tablet. Heck, some phones can do VR. And there are only a handful of first party games announced. And Nintendo's historical lack of third party support means they won't be getting many of those.

So if the best thing you can say about the Switch is 'it's a home console', then how can anyone continue to justify the lack of basic features (like Netflix, etc)?

Neither does Switch has power of PS4. It will get downgraded ports. Same thing PS3 - VITA. Vita got downgraded ports like UMVC3(ran amazing), SFxTekken,NFS Most Wanted,PS All Stars, Mortal Kombat 9, Injustice,CoD(not exactly port ), FIFA etc. All looked like downgraded PS3 ports.

It ran a previous gen games just fine(PS2).

Whats difference exactly? Switch runs downgraded ports of current gen. Also can have graphics previous games built up(Wii U-PS3 gen)

I think anyone that believes that the Switch gets many more 3rd party ports outside of year 1 is incredibly naïve.
 

Thabass

Member
So what? I have Netflix on my phone, my PC, my Xbox One, my PS4, 3 of my Smart TVs and my Apple TV.

I don't think I need another device that has Netflix...
 

lionpants

Member
I really don't get why this matters at all. Don't people already have enough devices that can play Netflix? Like, is someone going to awaken from their cryostasis and buy ONLY a TV and a Nintendo Switch and be like... "Awwww, DAMN IT NINTENDO why can't I play this new NETFLIX thing?"

Hell, my fridge can play Netflix.
It can't. But I'm sure GE is working on it.
 
"we're making a home console that you can take on the go" is the only selling point this needs imo :shrug:

If people are looking at the switch, it's because they want a console gaming machine they can play at home or away. Suddenly realising it doesn't have netflix isn't going to make them stop and say "hang on, I'll make do with an ipad" because it then won't give them the console gaming experience they were interested in in the first place.

The whole "play at home or away tablet" concept is precisely why it's a bummer switch lacks features like netflix, music streaming and a web browser. It would make the device more useful. It would be cool to watch netflix on TV than remove it from the cradle and continue watching on the go. Or how about at the airport pausing Zelda and checking your email on a single device? It's such an obviously cool differentiating feature that Nintendo decided to neglect.
 
"we're making a home console that you can take on the go" is the only selling point this needs imo :shrug:

That's the main selling point. But the counterpoint is just what's stopping them from making the console more flexible? Really, why can't this have Netflix at launch? It's time to get ready for bed. I just want to lay down and either: A.) play Breath of the Wild or B.) watch an episode of something on Netflix. I'm not sure which just yet, I'll mull it over once I'm laying down and comfortable and just see what strikes my fancy. Why can't the Switch accommodate both use cases? Why do I need to bring the Switch and an iPad with me in case I change my mind?
 
"we're making a home console that you can take on the go" is the only selling point this needs imo :shrug:

If people are looking at the switch, it's because they want a console gaming machine they can play at home or away. Suddenly realising it doesn't have netflix isn't going to make them stop and say "hang on, I'll make do with an ipad" because it then won't give them the console gaming experience they were interested in in the first place.

You're not really getting the point here. No one is saying that Netflix is "the selling point". We're saying that it's an added value that convinces people to keep using a piece of hardware. Not having that added value gives people one less reason to keep using their Switch. It's about creating a platform that people can spend most of their free time with rather than a throwaway device that has a singular appeal.
 

jonno394

Member
The whole "play at home or away tablet" concept is precisely why it's a bummer switch lacks features like netflix, music streaming and a web browser. It would make the device more useful. It would be cool to watch netflix on TV than remove it from the cradle and continue watching on the go. Or how about at the airport pausing Zelda and checking your email on a single device? It's such an obviously cool differentiating feature that Nintendo decided to neglect.

It'd be great, but then I can't imagine everyone with an ipad or a smartphone that does that deciding they no longer need it because they have a feature packed switch.

I see bunch of 720p games outside of Wii U ports.Aka : Splatoon2,Mario etc.. I am not sure what you trying to imply here.


erm, gonna need to see your source here
 

Pennywise

Member
So what? I have Netflix on my phone, my PC, my Xbox One, my PS4.

I don't think I need another device that has Netflix...

You ≠ others.

There are various reasons people want Netflix on Switch.
If it doesn't apply to you, good, but don't be suprised that it might be different for others.
 
I really don't get why this matters at all. Don't people already have enough devices that can play Netflix? Like, is someone going to awaken from their cryostasis and buy ONLY a TV and a Nintendo Switch and be like... "Awwww, DAMN IT NINTENDO why can't I play this new NETFLIX thing?"

Hell, my fridge can play Netflix.
It can't. But I'm sure GE is working on it.
Read the thread for reasons.
 

Papacheeks

Banned
Yeah. To me this just signals one of two things, and neither of them are good:

1.) This thing just really isn't ready for prime time yet. There's been little focus on the OS. the online infrastructure doesn't really seem in place yet. Day one launch lineup is pretty anemic. If feels like this device could really benefit from another delay, but they need it and Zelda out to generate revenue before the end of the fiscal year.

2.) They've decided that releasing just a game console that only plays game will be an attractive selling point.

Personally, I'm leaning more on point the first, as the second one just strikes me as too bizarre to be plausible.

Yea I would have to agree, especially seeing what they showed and how vague info was on other features like online,VC. But then I would ask why did they show it so early if it wasn't ready?

Did they feel threatened by what's coming out this year like Scorpio? Or was it investors stomping their feet and telling them they had to have a product out?

The whole investor thing sounds implausible because even thought hey are having supply restrains NES classic is still selling well, pokemon go made a lot of money, and super mario run did alright. They had pokemon sun and moon sell well, they could ahve just released Wii U version of Zelda, maybe could have worked on some ports for sun and moon on swtich and also release it on Wii U. ANd could have had a blow out for switch with games, services, and could have had it release in September with Zelda for switch, Splatoon, ARMS, Street fighter Turbo, couple third party games and a demo for Mario when you buy Mario kart deluxe. Also could have given 1,2 switch as a pack in as they would have had more games for launch.

Right now this looks like a very unprepared Nintendo, and makes Wii U's launch look good. They could have had a Nintendo direct that showed more about the console, showed some games, and show zelda with the things i mentioned above coming in the later months to tide people over. Then if people reacted to 300$ console they would have enough time to maybe make some price adjustments and make a second sku with just a pro type controller or motionless joycon's for 250.

I think that would have been the safer way to go honestly.
 

lionpants

Member
You ≠ others.

There are various reasons people want Netflix on Switch.
If it doesn't apply to you, good, but don't be suprised that it might be different for others.

Read the thread for reasons.

Oh come on. You're telling me that people that have a netflix subscription are going to be walking around with a Nintendo Switch and not a smart phone with much better battery life?

Priorities. If Nintendo focused on the priorities on a game console (playing games?) that's all that matters to me.

For me personally, this is a good thing. Less things cluttering my home screen. More development time (hopefully) into things that matter on a gaming console.
 

flkraven

Member
I really don't get why this matters at all. Don't people already have enough devices that can play Netflix? Like, is someone going to awaken from their cryostasis and buy ONLY a TV and a Nintendo Switch and be like... "Awwww, DAMN IT NINTENDO why can't I play this new NETFLIX thing?"

Hell, my fridge can play Netflix.
It can't. But I'm sure GE is working on it.

A person waking up from cryostasis wouldn't buy a Switch when they realize that there are literally hundreds of devices that do far more for far less money. The Switch is quickly becoming WiiU 2.0 - Spend the money if you want to play Nintendo exclusives. Period. Only this time it doesn't even play Netflix.
 

Papacheeks

Banned
A person waking up from cryostasis wouldn't buy a Switch when they realize that there are literally hundreds of devices that do far more for far less money. The Switch is quickly becoming Wii-U 2.0 - Spend the money if you want to play Nintendo exclusives. Period. Only this time it doesn't even play Netflix.

And is just as expensive and more so if you want additional joycon's or a pro controller.
 
Oh come on. You're telling me that people that have a netflix subscription are going to be walking around with a Nintendo Switch and not a smart phone with much better battery life?

Priorities. If Nintendo focused on the priorities on a game console (playing games?) that's all that matters to me.

For me personally, this is a good thing. Less things cluttering my home screen. More development time (hopefully) into things that matter on a gaming console.

Well, of course people are going to have a phone on them. But I want to use a device with a bigger screen. Why do I need to trade to a smaller screen after I get done playing a round of Mario Kart and want to watch Netflix? "You probably already have a tablet anyway! Just use that!" So I'm supposed to carry around two tablet-sized devices in addition to my phone? Seriously, why can't I just watch Netflix on my Switch?
 

Pennywise

Member
Oh come on. You're telling me that people that have a netflix subscription are going to be walking around with a Nintendo Switch and not a smart phone with much better battery life?

Priorities. If Nintendo focused on the priorities on a game console (playing games?) that's all that matters to me.

Yes ?

To the bolded part.
It doesn't mean you're taking away devs from actual game development process, so that argument is pretty bad by itself.
It just seems that the OS is really undercooked currently, since the development process of the App wouldn't be even in their hand anyway...

And just because it doesn't apply to you personally, it doesn't mean it won't for others.
I got more than enough devices, but there are plenty of people with valid reasons here.
 

lionpants

Member
A person waking up from cryostasis wouldn't buy a Switch when they realize that there are literally hundreds of devices that do far more for far less money. The Switch is quickly becoming WiiU 2.0 - Spend the money if you want to play Nintendo exclusives. Period. Only this time it doesn't even play Netflix.
Okay, that's fine in my opinion. Isn't that the point of buying a game console? Did people expect their SNES to play tapes as well?
 

Peltz

Member
Honestly, I do not care. I have over 10 devices that are Netflix-capable at this point. Nobody is going to decide whether they want a Switch on the basis of whether it does Netflix.
 
Oh come on. You're telling me that people that have a netflix subscription are going to be walking around with a Nintendo Switch and not a smart phone with much better battery life?

Priorities. If Nintendo focused on the priorities on a game console (playing games?) that's all that matters to me.

For me personally, this is a good thing. Less things cluttering my home screen. More development time (hopefully) into things that matter on a gaming console.
I'm talking for home use.

Less standard features is not a good thing. Netflix has nothing to do with game development.
 
Do you really care? Anyone in this thread? For real?

You don't have 97 devices that play Netflix already? Even my mother has a netflix redundancy problem.

Honestly, you people make me sick. SICK! To my stomach and back.

I frequently use my chromecast with my laptop to watch Netflix between laptop and TV.
I'll start an episode on my laptop, cast it to the TV, and then move back to my laptop when I go to cook in the kitchen.
The switch is capable of doing that unlike my other devices.

There's no doubt that a touch screen device like that would be useful to use.
 

flkraven

Member
Okay, that's fine in my opinion. Isn't that the point of buying a game console? Did people expect their SNES to play tapes as well?

When the SNES came out, there wasn't a PS4, Xbox, tablets, laptops, smartphones, Nvidia shield, etc that could all do the same things + way more for the same price (or far less).
 

lionpants

Member
Okay, I can see your points. Yes carrying around two devices would be cumbersome and yes the lack of what is considered a standard feature is hindering. I even kinda pointed this out when I joked that even my fridge could play Netflix. Haha.

I guess I was just looking at it as a single task sort of thing because of how I consume media. I'm not constantly switching back and forth between netflix and gaming.
 
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