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Gamekult editor on graphical differences between the Zelda Switch/Wii U version

Yeah I can see that too. I feel like there is a mini "console war" among Nintendo fans when it comes to this game.

There's also one going on between PS4 and PS4 Pro owners and there will be one going on between Xbox One and Scorpio owners this Winter too. I'm sure PC gamers find it amusing lol.
 

OmahaG8

Member
The thing that disturbs me the most is Nintendo restructured the whole game to NOT use the gamepad. Is pretty clear that this Zelda was meant to be played with the inventory on the gamepad, but they remove it to be only useful for off TV play. For Nintendo it seems only the Switch version matters and the Wii U one shouldn't be better on any point.

Yes and no. I see the (valid and unfair from a consumer perspective) point about the Wii U version not having anything over the Switch, but if these videos are to be believed - it might be because the Wii U needed any and all hardware resources dedicated to the game to get to the level its even at now. If the game comes out and its running swimmingly however. . .
 
Yes and no. I see the (valid and unfair from a consumer perspective) point about the Wii U version not having anything over the switch, but if these videos are to be believed - it might be because the Wii U needed any and all hardware resources dedicated to the game to get to the level its even at now.

The game was originally developed showing a map on the gamepad. Look the video above.
 

OmahaG8

Member
The game was originally developed showing a map on the gamepad. Look the video above.

I didn't say it wasn't/didn't believe it wasn't. That video looks a bit choppy at times, too. I guess I'd like to think Nintendo didn't do this for spite, but I do agree it's BS nonetheless.
 

Frogstep

Member
This looks totally fine. Both versions have their problems but the Wii U version is still worth picking up if you already own that console and don't wanna drop 300-400, like myself.
 
Well... Imagine if you had bought a PS3 for Final Fantasy XV and The Last Guardian.

i actually did, but there are other awesome games on the ps3 to make up for it. the wiiu on the other hand has the worst output of all nintendo consoles. and tbh, zelda is a much bigger deal than versus and the last guardian combined.
 

Parapraxis

Member
There's also one going on between PS4 and PS4 Pro owners and there will be one going on between Xbox One and Scorpio owners this Winter too. I'm sure PC gamers find it amusing lol.

What? I don't think so, regular PS4 owners know PS4 Pro will be the better version, exactly what would they be "warring" over?
 
It is not a 'miracle' it runs on the Wii U. It was built for the Wii U. It was ported to Switch.

Stop making excuses for Nintendo. It is not acceptable if it runs bad.
 

TLZ

Banned
Nvidia flops are not AMD flops.

Sure.

Yup, Switch docked is also 393gflops. When the more modern GPU, much faster CPU and 3x RAM with double bandwidth is added in Switch when docked is probably close to 4x Wii U in real world performance (Fast Racing goes from Dynamic 720p/30fps to Dynamic 1080p/60fps with better visuals in 4 player mode on Switch and that's a launch game with a tiny budget).
No one argued the docked part so your post is irrelevant.
 

Kuro

Member
Sure.


No one argued the docked part so your post is irrelevant.

Nvidia and AMD have different architectures resulting in the case of Nvidia flops counting more than AMD for performance. Look at their GPUs and it's obvious. 480 has like almost 6tf but is comparable with the 4.something that the 1060 does rather than the 6.4tf 1070.
 

Gestault

Member
All the sudden Wii U is a savior, after a long 4 years of getting shit on smh

I think it's more that the system a game was announced, developed for, and publicly demo'd on is probably an acceptable place to play it. It's not rocket science. It's also not saying the Switch is unnecessary in any broad sense.
 
Zelda wasn't even announced when the Wii U launched. Not seeing how Nintendo's done you wrong here...

Leaving the baffling decision of buy a wii u day 1 aside, he has a point.
you buy a nintendo console expecting all their 1st party games to show up more than anything else if at all, then it gets promised a year in, to play that game you hold on to that console for years only to get a barely stitched together version because all of a sudden wii u is too weak , as if it grew weaker than when nintendo started developing it.

if they cant even deliver polished first party games theres pretty much no point their console even existing.
assuming youre buying a switch , imagine mario zelda and xenoblade all get delayed by 4 years out of the blue and nintendo announced a new switch 2 years , those games run suberly on it and drag their feet on the switch, will I find you supporting the old switch without any complaints?
 

TLZ

Banned
Nvidia and AMD have different architectures resulting in the case of Nvidia flops counting more than AMD for performance. Look at their GPUs and it's obvious. 480 has like almost 6tf but is comparable with the 4.something that the 1060 does rather than the 6.4tf 1070.

OK, but do you have real life performance comparisons? Like the same game running on both the 1060 and 480 with similar setup?
 

Dragnipur

Neo Member
The Wii U version is running better than I was expecting, actually. BotW might as well be the swan song for my ol' Wii U.

The quest the poor guy is currently suffering through looks horrifically tedious, Nintendo, what the fuck.
What is tedious about it, without being too spoilery?
 

duckroll

Member
the way nintendo does business feels like a slap in the face though. i bought the wiiu on day 1 for zelda, only to end up with an inferior version with removed gamepad support.

Well yes, it is certainly a slap in the face for fans who actually believe in buying consoles before the things they want are released.
 
WTF? It was announced exclusively for Wii U and developed for Wii U for yeaaaaaars.

Insane damage control. It's okay to admit your favorite gaming company fucked up.

Did they though? It doesn't make it better (if anything, it's worse), but this was clearly a business decision. Nintendo focused on the Switch version, stripped some basic features from the Wii U version so the Switch remains clearly superior, and didn't really do much else with the Wii U version once it was running reasonably well.

On topic, what's up with the lighting/colors in the Wii U version? Last time I saw this I assumed it was an improperly set up capture device, but all of the Wii U footage from today shares the same washed out look.
 
i was completely wrong in believing that nintendo can deliver a library at least on par with the gamecube.

The Wii U has an incredible library, and to be fair you technically can play Breath of the Wild on it as well. And in all fairness, the Switch version looks like a technical disaster as well. While perhaps not quite as bad as the Wii U version, Switch BoTW is still incredibly aliased, low res, has poor texture filtering, and dips far too frequently for a game that doesn't look amazing. I'm more excited for my Switch and BoTW than I have been for anything media related in the past decade, but on a technical level it looks terrible.
 
Well, you know, theres a couple of million buyers that want to play the Zelda game that has been teased since 2013.

Remembers...

Final Fantasy XV
The Last Guardian
KH3

hehehehe...hehe...AHHAAHAH

(I don't buy a console for a game that isn't released yet cause I'm not foolish, which is why I didn't get a PS3 until this past year)
 
Fucked up by making a game too ambitious for the hardware, sure.
It happens to the best of them.
See Perfect Dark.

Jesus .
Nintendo can do no wrong.

Ubisoft downgrades a game on hardware they werent even sure of when they started developing and it has bugs, gets universally shunned to the point where they have to make public apologies , delay production of their next big game , give out the season pass expansion for free.
Nintendo announced this game for their own hardware that they shouldve been perfectly knowledgeable of , delayed it multiple times, downgraded the visuals significantly, the product comes out unpolished and with unacceptable levels of performance to make the newer console look better, but hey, they have the season pass ready! and people should be grateful because nintendo was too ambitious?

are you shitting me?
 

TLZ

Banned
The Wii U has an incredible library, and to be fair you technically can play Breath of the Wild on it as well. And in all fairness, the Switch version looks like a technical disaster as well. While perhaps not quite as bad as the Wii U version, Switch BoTW is still incredibly aliased, low res, has poor texture filtering, and dips far too frequently for a game that doesn't look amazing. I'm more excited for my Switch and BoTW than I have been for anything media related in the past decade, but on a technical level it looks terrible.

And that is why, my friend, I will always want and hope Nintendo go with more power to show off their games in all their glory. Go toe to toe with Sony and MS and compete with your great and unique exclusives. And not f up with some bs stubborn mistake like the n64 (tiny storage carts) and gamecube (lesser storage mini discs and no media play I.e. DVD and CD). I will wait and hope someday it happens. Maybe 50 years from now, if any of them still existed.
 
The fact BotW runs on Wii U at all is a miracle. The fact it looks very similar to the Switch version is just as amazing.

Switch is several times more powerful than Wii U. The fact it runs smoother on Switch isn't a surprise.

A Zelda designed for the Wiiu running on the Wiiu is a miracle? I bought a Wiiu for this game many years back, so its a bit disappointing that it runs this way.
Its worse than the Twilight Princess delay, not only because TP actually ran well, but because we also had Wind Waker on gamecube prior to that.
 

duckroll

Member
How is this "business"?

It's business because Nintendo has abandoned the WiiU as a platform moving forward, and it would not be in their best interest to highlight anything in their next flagship title that might make people think that the dead system they are sunsetting has any advantages which the new system does not. Nintendo is a company that loves to manage perceptions, and their targeted message now is "Buy a Switch, Goodbye WiiU."

Speaking of corporate apologism, it is now your fault if you buy a console to play a game on it.

Who is apologizing for Nintendo being shitty?
 

duckroll

Member
i was completely wrong in believing that nintendo can deliver a library at least on par with the gamecube.

Some people find it hard to believe, but my Wii library is even smaller than my GC library. Of course my WiiU library is the smallest. I don't even have one! :)

To me, Nintendo's inability to release console games I want to play is the norm.
 
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