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Microsoft announced Xbox Game Pass subscription service
- Thread starter jbug617
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They will eventually. Nintendo is like the Vatican. They move at their own pace against the current of change.
Valid concern but let's see what happens. EA Access did not impact the quality of GwG.
Been gaming for decades, change happens.
Blocking people from having a choice for the sake of nostalgia is not the way to go.
Eh, psnow is there so you don't download the game. It's its purpose to stream.
KampferZeon
Neo Member
well that means if I care enough to play some old games, I have to play it when MS says when to play it.
for me the urge to play old games is a bit spontaneous, like wants to play rise after watching the gladiator movie.
this feels really like paying for demos. Goal of publishers is to entice people to buy old games at the discount price.
Can we have Steam seasonal mega sale instead? it is more honest.
1) for a rental service, 120 a year is a bit steep. yes Netflix is also 10 dollars a month but people can watch 3 movies a night. No one can finish 3 games a day.
3) how is it possible nothing will change. the games come from the same pool.
anyway I think it is a nice idea but not interested unless it is a bit cheaper like maybe 60 a year. And MS needs to provide more details and answer all the open questions.
So, I've seen some people saying different things.
I assumed that it would be 100 games at a time, with some leaving and new ones coming on periodically. But others have read it as only the 4 named at first, with 4 or 5 changing out every month.
"unlimited access to over 100 Xbox One and backward compatible Xbox 360 games" means 100 games at a time, right?
I assumed that it would be 100 games at a time, with some leaving and new ones coming on periodically. But others have read it as only the 4 named at first, with 4 or 5 changing out every month.
"unlimited access to over 100 Xbox One and backward compatible Xbox 360 games" means 100 games at a time, right?
I'm in the Alpha, they appear as Owned straight away.
killer rin
Member
Wow, this is awesome... I only wish there was some sort of upgrade for Gold Subscribers to add onto it at a lower price.
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
Anyone remember Sega Channel?
They stand to make more money by keeping both subscriptions worthwhile.
It's worth mentioning that GWG titles you download don't become unavailable when they are rotated out.
So we have 2 different services with different value propositions. There's No need or benefit in sacrificing one to push people towards the other.
Your speculation is pretty baseless.
Games with Gold continues. Xbox Game Pass is not a replacement for that. Great games and benefits with Gold continue. #Xbox
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I Reclaim3mer 117
Neo Member
How many Xbox one games are available ?
xabbott
Member
What? Valve, Sony, and anyone else chasing gaming money has been after this. PSNow, PSP Go, Steam, online passes, apps, etc
a Master Ninja
Member
Well duh. I mean Netflix doesn't really get movies still in theaters or TV shows right after they aired.
barneystuta83
Member
How do I get myself one of these? Is it for preview members?
The Abominable Snowman
Member
This is exactly where I was hoping gaming would go years ago. I'm surprised the Xbox One didn't launch with this. This is an awesome service. I'm definitely on board.
Especially if these titles are play anywhere. Whew, that would be amazing.
Especially if these titles are play anywhere. Whew, that would be amazing.
Forsythia
Member
Yes, and you have to be in the alpha ring.
How is it "like paying for demos" ?
It's IS renting a large number of full games at once.
1) how many games can you finish in a month? Now How many games can you acquire with $10?
How many games can you finish in year? Now how many can you acquire for $120?
This service isn't expensive when you consider how much you are potentially getting access to. It will live/die the quality and relevance of the offering.
Nevermind that consuming a game is very different from consuming a movie. One doesn't neccisarily "finish" a MP game for example. You can extract value out of experiencing a game w/o seeing it through to completion.
3) the games come from the same pool, but are offered under different circumstances. There's no reason a particular game couldn't be offered on both services, for example. There's no conflict and MS has every reason to want to please people using either or both.
5, there is a list somewhere in the thread.
LukasTaves
Member
Sorry, I did misread.I think you should re-read my post mate. I didn't say all they've got is Halo, merely that the franchise could not be the face of the brand forever.
I also acknowledged that they have tried to bring new experiences to the platform in the form of games like Sunset Overdrive and Quantum Break.
But none have performed particularly well. They need new IP to supplement their existing brands or replace them, in my opinion of course.
However I still disagree they need a new face other than halo, even with a strong ip portfolio there's always place for Halo, like how Nintendo operates.
And, I think this is a good opportunity for them to keep throwing more games. Now their games don't have to sell that much, they just have to be different and good enough so it gets people to subscribe to the service, like the same way Netflix uses their series to bring subs up.
So even if for those who won't sub this is likely to have a very positive impact on the games they bring for Xbox and for xbox support in general. For instance I wouldn't doubt they could get some Japanese games on the service, it would be great for developers that wouldn't have to deal with chance of low sales, good for gamers because it's more games to play, and good for ms because it makes people who wouldn't get their system or sub to subscribe.
This is also potentially a counter response for those saying ms wanted their 1st party lineup to be service based only. With a system wide service they don't need to.
Flawless logic.
Yikes...
GameStop shares are tanking after Microsoft unveils a new attack on the used game business
http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-xbox-game-pass-versus-gamestop-2017-2
GameStop shares are tanking after Microsoft unveils a new attack on the used game business
http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-xbox-game-pass-versus-gamestop-2017-2
LegalEagleMike
Member
Microsoft should just flat out center the ad campaign for this around parents never having to go to a gamestop again.
justsomeguy
Member
yes
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
This is cool for non Gold members but I'm ok with my 4 games per month from Gold.
Let it go
If you read through the FAQ it just sounds like they are guaranteeing there will be at least 100 games available. But as you read through it also sounds like games will continually get added.
Its an observation. I didn't say anything about it being a choice or not.
Read above.
Because games may get taken off the service. And one day the service will inevitably be canceled. My observation is that if you want the game in perpetuity then this is not a great idea.
It will definitely appeal to folks who want to save money and couldn't care less about owning the game. I won't argue against that.
Edit: Meant to hit submit an hour ago but changed tabs.
1. Microsoft has now established $10/month as the price point for a service of >100 games. If Ubisoft or Activision attempts a service like this, which will have certainly have fewer games, they have to come in at a lower price.
2. I would have rather more/better games cycled through the service than a weaker library that is static. This service is to play games you missed, games that are outside your comfort zone, or games that are fun for only a couple hours. If, by chance, you discover an awesome game that you want to finish, you can buy it. People who made good game get incentive to make more games, and you discovered something you may not have played otherwise.
I remember renting games from Blockbuster for $4.25 for TWO days in 1996. It's 21 years later and I can rent >100 games for a month for twice that price.
2. I would have rather more/better games cycled through the service than a weaker library that is static. This service is to play games you missed, games that are outside your comfort zone, or games that are fun for only a couple hours. If, by chance, you discover an awesome game that you want to finish, you can buy it. People who made good game get incentive to make more games, and you discovered something you may not have played otherwise.
I remember renting games from Blockbuster for $4.25 for TWO days in 1996. It's 21 years later and I can rent >100 games for a month for twice that price.
That should be obvious since it's a rental service that rotates titles in and out. Why would anyone who wants a game perpetually rely solely on this?
It does offer discounts on titles that show up, so it could be a good discovery tool for titles people want to later own.
EA Access is $20 a year and they have 44 games in the vault right now.
I'm still not following you here.
Taken off what service?
If it gets taken off Xbox Game Pass and you bought it while it was up, you still own it like any other digital title, and you got a 20% discount.
If you didn't buy it, its gonna be for sale like any other digital title not on Xbox Game Pass.
Are you talking about games being delisted from the marketplace? Because I don't see how that is something of specific concern to Xbox Game Pass?
aygomyownroad
Member
Wow... I mean seriously not a drive by shit post here but when PSNow was originally shown etc the amount of people who were begging for it to be a subscription service such as Netflix for a monthly fee.
You download the games as well! No streaming "damn my shifty bandwidth"
I will be looking very closely at this! After backwards compatibility Microsoft has smacked this out of the park, get an xbox one and think of all the games you can play for £10.
Sony you have won the gen, but damn these are things that you should be looking at as well
EA access shows that you were wrong to not give customers a choice
You download the games as well! No streaming "damn my shifty bandwidth"
I will be looking very closely at this! After backwards compatibility Microsoft has smacked this out of the park, get an xbox one and think of all the games you can play for £10.
Sony you have won the gen, but damn these are things that you should be looking at as well
EA access shows that you were wrong to not give customers a choice
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Right, but if you want the game buy it. It's a great service to play a ton of games and if there are games you want to keep, buy it. So it works both ways, and far better than Netflix, which doesn't give you this option. So your point is moot and makes zero sense. You are trying to hard to hate it for reasons unknown.
£7.99
They are going to upsell the fuck out of this service in like ~2 years. I can only imagine then releasing a game on the service on the launch day of a AAA game.
Release Halo 6 in 2018.
Release Halo 6 on XGP on launch.
You could "try the whole game" for $10.
If you like it, you can buy it for $48.
In total, you paid ~$58 instead of $60, but now you have 100 games to play as well. If you are interested, you could possibly pay for another month. Otherwise, they could release yet another AAA game (Say Forza Horizon 4) the next month (tho we know that order would be switched). You could possibly pay as low as $20...but you could have bought both games, giving them a profit and getting you to buy games that you were anyways.
But then, you could pay for both games for $20, but you like to play online, so you either buy a month or a year worth of live (~$60). It's all about upselling to the subscriptions. Shit, I wouldn't be surprised if they did choose to do that next year to get more people paying for the service. This is gonna be interesting.
Release Halo 6 in 2018.
Release Halo 6 on XGP on launch.
You could "try the whole game" for $10.
If you like it, you can buy it for $48.
In total, you paid ~$58 instead of $60, but now you have 100 games to play as well. If you are interested, you could possibly pay for another month. Otherwise, they could release yet another AAA game (Say Forza Horizon 4) the next month (tho we know that order would be switched). You could possibly pay as low as $20...but you could have bought both games, giving them a profit and getting you to buy games that you were anyways.
But then, you could pay for both games for $20, but you like to play online, so you either buy a month or a year worth of live (~$60). It's all about upselling to the subscriptions. Shit, I wouldn't be surprised if they did choose to do that next year to get more people paying for the service. This is gonna be interesting.
DOWN
Banned
Games with Gold only remain available on 360 and not on One, and it's well established before GWG started that people would pay for the Live subscription because it's the only way to play any game online. Sony has proven that giving out shit cheap games won't stop subscriptions because people are willing to pay since they need online access.
I think he's saying if you only want to own games, then this service alone wouldn't be for you... which is a point that goes without saying, because it's a rental service.
He should note, however, that while titles are available in the service they can be purchased at a discount.
I would want to sell the fuck out of it this year.
"Buy any Xbox One console and get instant access to over 100 games with a free 3 month trial of Xbox Game Pass starting at $199 this Holiday"
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
I'm surprised they are doing this for only $10 a month.
That's very cheap. This could do wonders for games like Sunset Overdrive that just don't hit critical mass the way gamers hope they do.
Also for Games that suffer from small lobbies after awhile, this can give them a decent boost, the same way EA access does.
That's very cheap. This could do wonders for games like Sunset Overdrive that just don't hit critical mass the way gamers hope they do.
Also for Games that suffer from small lobbies after awhile, this can give them a decent boost, the same way EA access does.
Resident_UA
Member
This sounds great! Easy way to catch up on older titles when there's nothing to play.
Exactly!
CrimsonEclipse
Member
Woah, this is awesome...Didn't see it coming. I think I'm on board.