Shaming?? LOL. Really?
Because I think they could have done the characters face and animations better? Holy shit this is insulting.
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Shaming?? LOL. Really?
Because I think they could have done the characters face and animations better? Holy shit this is insulting.
Glad you can tell because I can't.
cripterion
Member
Wait what? We can't change our companions armors!? I mean there's only 6 of them, you telling me Peebee going to be rocking her stupid dress throughout the whole game? That's just beyond ridiculous. Even in DA : I you could change your party's gear and weapons (except for that pesky dwarf and his Bianca)
Having to mess with that god awful equipment menu when equipping your companions with gear is one of the worst parts of DAI.
Seeing as how no one has ever gotten an equipment menu right, the less time I have to spend in one, the better.
Ryzaki009
Member
That and his specialization is really best on archers and making him a dagger rogue is a complete waste.
Exploratory
Banned
Companion armor and weapons could be bad or good.
Really it's about balancing customization (meaningful customization not ME1 nonsense) with compelling gameplay. If we lose that customization for really awesome characters who all function differently and really impact gameplay (think ME1 classes to ME2 classes) I'll be happy. But if it's them just stripping features out and your companions ain't shit well...that'll be bad. We won't know until we play but I wouldn't blast them for it just yet.
Really it's about balancing customization (meaningful customization not ME1 nonsense) with compelling gameplay. If we lose that customization for really awesome characters who all function differently and really impact gameplay (think ME1 classes to ME2 classes) I'll be happy. But if it's them just stripping features out and your companions ain't shit well...that'll be bad. We won't know until we play but I wouldn't blast them for it just yet.
SoRuffShoNuff
Member
You couldn't change their armor in ME2 or 3 outside of DLC in 2 and I think one other set option in 3.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Bioware never fails to deliver in the animations front
Happy shaming isn't a thing. It should be fairly obvious.
Exploratory
Banned
I'm pretty sure Mass Effect 2 has loyalty alternate outfits.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
Where the hell is the mass effect trilogy remaster?
Fahzgoolin
Banned
Simply sublime.
John has been defending the honor of this particular character for quite a while actually.
That's been debunked, the proportions in ME 1-3 are out (look more like a comic book), but closer to real in Andromeda.
But can we agree that was a joke? 😗
That is correct. Some are simply recolours, but most are actually different outfits (esp. noticeable for Jack).
I believe ME3 may actually have two other options with DLC, but I could be mistaken.
Spine_Ripper
Member
Look at the two guns.
Look at them again.
If you still aren't sure what's happening.
Pellesaria B'Sayle is holding her gun backwards.
This thread is comedic gold
Yeah, here I think that's true.
Elsewhere? Not so much. Basically the younger and more exclusively male the crowd, the more it's Sara Ryder who gets talked down.
What's really funny is, if it's true, as has been suggested, that there are 10 faces like that of Scott and Sara for each gender - i.e. properly input, full pre-gen faces, not just dial-a-nose or whatever, then very few people will even be using the default. The only reason Sheploo was so popular was that he looked so much better than the facegen. If there had been say, three or four faces made the same way Sheploo's was, then that iconic face wouldn't be as iconic.
I say if that's true, though, because we have yet to see or hear much about chargen.
One thing I will say for Scott Ryder though, was wimpy and adolescent as he looks to me (I mean, really, he looks about 19-20, which isn't far off - admittedly I had better facial hair at 16, but we all develop differently), is that if they say, set the next game 5 years from now, and used the Ryder twins again, he could probably age up nicely. His jaw could still wide/muscle-up a bit, shoulders fill out, shave or grow a real beard, and so on, he'd probably look good.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Jack's Loyalty outfit was painting a glossy black texture on her naked body. All the Loyalty outfits are recolours.
Just replayed the game, the alternative appearance pack costumes were pretty great if you took away the visors though (only possible on PC)
Reizo Ryuu
Member
I already know now asari duelist and human kineticist are gonna be my mains.
Unless there's a sneaky N7 Fury on those lootboxes waiting to be unlocked ofc.
That's right, was just checking myself, the only ones with different geometry are the DLC ones. It's funny, I remember Jack's outfit as being more different, oh well!
No, he's serious.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
What is Horizon has to do with all of this?
We've seen numerous videos already where the animation works are questionable, and when you add stuff like these the worrying issues just piled up.
It's especially gruesome since Mass Effect us supposedly a heavy narrative driven game. And yet the thing that is supposed to be the heart of it, the characters and how they animate, jarring cutscene mistakes... They're not ideal at all and yet you're telling me people are overselling it? And this is coming from a supposedly AAA rpg developer with 5 years of development?
Urgh.
Hopefully in the end I can get used to all the oddities... So far though, it's kind of disappointing.
I'm sure he'll pipe up and sort this out...
This is absolutely ridiculous. They are dumbing the game down even more. Are you kidding me?
What is the thinking behind this.
prag16
Banned
Dumbing down, or removing bloat that most players didn't really care about?
FlutterPuffs
Member
It's not bloat.
Officer.Sanchez
Member
You =/= most players
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
So.....choosing weapons is among the least 'bloat' tactical decisions a player can make.
The only thing less 'bloat' is picking which squad powers for their leveling up. And while I'm sure Bioware probably left in the 'auto-levelling' aspect for people who really actually don't care about individually leveling up their squaddies, taking out the other direct aspect of tactical control and calling that bloat is just.....
I mean, I understand they don't want you feeding your squaddies overpowered crafting weapons and all, and that this is pretty much just continuing the trend of ME2 and beyond, but....bloat?
lol.
Even in ME2/3 where admittedly, companion weapon DPS isn't nearly as important as their skills, having a widow vs having the basic sniper is noticeable.
Mass Effect and Horizon are the only AAA releases with mainstream cache releasing right now. What should they be worried about? Persona? Nier? Yakuza? That stuff is great but a blip on the radar compared to a sequel to a game that sold, what, six million copies? I forgot Zelda, but that bombed, so same difference.
So yeah, competition is hardly an issue.
Stantron
Member
I found 2 min of cam video. Looks like they're clamping down on people recording, which is odd to do so close to launch, and weak because they denied us a mp beta.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afmix6AAq38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afmix6AAq38
HelloNewman
Member
That looked like alot of fun and that extraction wave looked crazy if that's just Bronze it's going to be insane on Gold.
Looks good, hype.
cripterion
Member
From Reddit
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
From Reddit
Is there a video of the character creator somewhere?
From Reddit
Beautiful
VanCityGamer
Member
You're exactly right. GAF is going crazy about how this is the best Q1 ever with too many games to play. But the mainstream and bulk of gamers don't give a shit about most of those (Yakuza, Nioh, Nier, Persona, etc.).
It's really just Horizon, Zelda, and Mass Effect. The first 2 are restricted to just 1 system. The competition is actually really light right now for Mass Effect.
Even if ME:A is released a buggy mess and/or is a mediocre game we still have the GIFs it produced lol.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Wait is there footage of the character creator?
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Nah, post on the unofficial BSN.
The review codes are out.
Expect to see Mission 1 by Tuesday, Multiplayer on Wednesday and full embargo for Monday.
I have it in my hands, see you in Andromeda. Any questions?
cripterion
Member
You really think they'll cycle different outfits throughout missions? You'll get that midriff Peebee all game long it seems.
Cannot give them armors, weapons, less control of them during combat and there is only 6 of them. Seems like companions are an afterthought for this game. I mean all the crafting you're going to do is just for yourself? Meanwhile the pathfinder can do it all.
At least let me be able to take both Ryder's and customize them to my liking but that's also a "nope!" Story reasons...
AquaWateria
Member
Wut lol.
Heckler456
Banned
It being a narrative-heavy video game doesn't take away from the fact that it's an open world RPG with a character creator. It's in a class with games like Fallout 4 when it comes to animation quality, not games like Uncharted 4. Even Horizon had the benefit of first having to develop facial tech for Killzone Shadow Fall, but even with that in hand, it still looks questionable a various points in the game. Which is why I'm comparing it. The point is that some people here have completely unrealistic expectations based on how they THINK this game's animations should look, which is proven by the fact that almost 100% of people fail to even go as far as give a single example as a point of comparison with other games, let alone show a preponderance of games that somehow do an indeterminably better job at it than ME:A does.
AquaWateria
Member
Or that Bioware just sucks at animation.
I mean I expected the animation would be terrible especially coming from Bioware games, but I still had hope they would improve a bit. However, I guess I was wrong because most of the NPCs look so emotionless.
Oh well hopefully gameplay is good because at this point I have given up on Bioware for decent animation.
HelloNewman
Member
The companions don't even put on helmets outside I dunno why anyone thought they'd get extra costumes.
Heckler456
Banned
Not all of the animations look terrible. Also, I don't know how you think animations work, and whether or not you played the previous games, but there is in actual fact a ton of progress. For starters, they're using motion capture. Beside that, you obviously have the advent of a larger memory pool allowing for a larger amount of animations. The rest, you know... I don't think I can convince someone who seems very invested in the notion that Bioware sucks at animation, and that that therefor must mean that all their animations look terrible.