AnkhWeasel
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Oh, you know those brothers are gonna make a nasty, nasty boy.
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Testing the Limits of Mass Effect Andromeda's Character Creator
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Oh, you know those brothers are gonna make a nasty, nasty boy.
ME:A animations aren't looking too good either, and they don't have the character creation features of the mentioned games.
Heckler456
Banned
It doesn't need to connect, because in the split second (literally) that it's on screen, the punch read perfectly fine. Doing work to make the motion capture date connect is gross a waste of effort.
I don't think that's right whatsoever. If you look at the way the feet are positioned, it's evidently nigh-on the same perspective. The same goes for the head and the way it's looking. You're not seeing the bottom of his chin, the head is looking straigh-on.
Like, unless I'm just completely misunderstanding you, you mean that if your angle is from the bottom looking up, your model will look more elongated, right? I've personally never head "orthographic" used, but when looking up, it's defined as "a way to project a 3D object on a 2D plane by using multiple angles".
Mr. Phellps
Member
Personally don't care about changing character height, but the CC itself doesn't seem as powerful as Inquisition's.
Then again, Dragon Age always had a stronger CC than the Mass Effect series.
Then again, Dragon Age always had a stronger CC than the Mass Effect series.
Damn. The female preset heads are really awful, and the adjustment options do not seem to allow that much variation, either way.
(For example, you can't even change the brows/mouth/nose/eye's shapes). DAI definitively was way better, on that front.
While both Mass Effect 2 and 3 had just a few custom templates, they all somehow looked a bit more decent as well:
https://youtu.be/HI87jS44TOo?t=20s
https://youtu.be/lv0ekSA8U5I?t=16s
For Andromeda, Head 2, 7, 8 and maybe 9 at least look like human beings. The eye area is the worst part in all, by far.
Hope Mods can provide more distinctive looks. Disappointing, to be honest.
(For example, you can't even change the brows/mouth/nose/eye's shapes). DAI definitively was way better, on that front.
While both Mass Effect 2 and 3 had just a few custom templates, they all somehow looked a bit more decent as well:
https://youtu.be/HI87jS44TOo?t=20s
https://youtu.be/lv0ekSA8U5I?t=16s
For Andromeda, Head 2, 7, 8 and maybe 9 at least look like human beings. The eye area is the worst part in all, by far.
Hope Mods can provide more distinctive looks. Disappointing, to be honest.
bobbychalkers
Member
Haven't had the chance to watch it yet but I hope its black people friendly.
It's not even white people friendly
Correct so far, lol
Wow, ME2/3 have much less faces variation than I remembered.
disappeared
Banned
It didn't look like it from the video. When the player went to custom face it jumped to one of the 9 presets.
The Illiterati
Member
The faces look like the baby people from Assault Android Cactus. Shiny and round chubby cheeks with huge eyes.
they'll have the standard AAA afro
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Yeah, but not only it allow for randomization - you could actually customize several parts of the face to a much larger degree.
Here, apparently you can't even fundamentally change the shape of anything (except hair) beyond the head presets and some distance/size/color values.
You can edit the pre-defined female Shepard face on ME2 and 3. (You can see it in the video I linked above.)
Will the game have face codes. I am sure someone will make decent looking characters as I am too lazy to do it myself especially the hours with the CC in inquisition.
I am sure he is not too far away.
I am sure he is not too far away.
Is this the new looks like a PS2 game?
Retrofluxed
Member
The hyperbole is strong. Oblivion? Really? The default faces look miles better than even ME3's.
disappeared
Banned
It's been so long since I played the first ME, but I thought I remember being able to custom FemShep's default face. Or maybe it was a preset. Christ that was almost ten years ago.
Well, I have good news and bad news.
The good news is one of the fem preset heads that is black is the best looking preset.
The bad news is in the grand scheme of things they are all horrid abominations.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
This is a low-framerate GIF that skips the frame of impact.stop posting that GIF. Actual in-game speed:
No. You will be only large headed tween sized.
So they made Ryder approximately the size of a dakimakura.
King Gilga
Member
Looks fucking horrible.
Easily worse than DAI's, and I still had to do an unfair amount of work in DAI's to get something I liked.
Easily worse than DAI's, and I still had to do an unfair amount of work in DAI's to get something I liked.
ThEoRy...
Member
Come on with this already. It's been debunked. First it's Shep who's a bit out of proportion. Second it's the camera lens that makes Ryder look a bit squat. But hey it's an Andromeda thread so let's all just pile on right?
Kinda missing the point of the joke there, but sure.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
We can't customise:
Jaw height
Brow width
Brow type
Brow shape
Nose type
Nose tip
Nose bridge
Mouth type
Eye shape
Eye size
Cheekbone height
I just don't understand. I really don't.
Jaw height
Brow width
Brow type
Brow shape
Nose type
Nose tip
Nose bridge
Mouth type
Eye shape
Eye size
Cheekbone height
I just don't understand. I really don't.
Mr. Phellps
Member
Expecting to have a realistic judgment from the response of GAF regarding anything from Mass Effect Andromeda is... unrealistic.
It's a good CC, not as powerful as you may have hoped. Better than the trilogy, not as good as Inquisition's.
Heckler456
Banned
The speed is correct though. You won't notice that the hit didn't entirely connect when playing the game. A video game doesn't need to be held to the scrutiny of an infinitely repeating GIF, even at full speed.
So why does the animation have to be so bad? It's not like it's Hollywood where two actors are pulling their punches. Characters in a video game should be able to connect square with their target. It's just sloppy and lazy.
disappeared
Banned
It's the "Pick two" of console RPGs these days:
1. Decent story
2. Fun combat
3. Good character customization
Heckler456
Banned
Myeah... that's exactly what it is. Motion capture.
And no, it's not sloppy and lazy. When you're working an 80 hour week and have deadlines to meet, let's see where you place "fix fist not connecting in this 0.5 second long clip in which the fix would result in no appreciable difference" on the totem pole of importance.
The Last Wizard
Member
The voices certainly aren't:/
Most, if not all of which were options in DAI. What the fuck happened?
Mister_Bubbles
Member
For me the unbelievable aspect is that it would be chosen for a scene in a trailer to promote the game.
Heckler456
Banned
Real talk here. What percentage of people do you imagine even gave a shit about that? No one in their actual right mind even goes in looking for flaws like that. That's some Simpsons-like comicbook guy type shit.
Mister_Bubbles
Member
It doesn't bother me, if that's your worry - I can't freakin' wait for this game and a few dodgy animations should be an accepted part of gaming by everyone at this point. HOWEVER, I do think it's crazy that of all the footage they had at their disposal they would choose a scene with a glitch in it for promo footage. Don't you think?
It's been pretty consistent in the ME vids - Pingu lips, backwards guns, thrown punches, etc. It just blows my mind because after all this time and with an entire game of footage they could surely do better than that. Maybe that's unreasonable of me, but if I was head of marketing for this game and that was the content of the promo vids I'd be disappointed.
Heckler456
Banned
Are we still talking about that punch GIF? It's not a glitch. It's probably motion captured, and not adjusted because why bother when, again, there would be no appreciable difference when playing the game.
ScaryShark
Banned
Man, people really get off on shitting on this game.
Mister_Bubbles
Member
Glitch, motion capture limitation, whatever - my point is: why would you put that in a trailer? If you want that punch scene, use it in a ManRyder video where it actually connects. But hey, this is drifting way off topic! Custom faces!
Dandy Lyin
Member
You can't change anything on the default faces.