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[nicanica]

How in the hell did you beat that?

Real talk. I never did.

Advanced Wars made me realize that this game of children playing at war with cartoon tanks was meant for Shogi professionals and Chess grandmasters.

 

[PSqueak]

What? In many of the Kingdom Hearts Games the final boss is actually rather weak, imo. In KH 1 I oneshot the boss while dieing quite a few times to other bosses. In KH 2 I died to the final form of the final boss once, yet I spent hours on Xaldin. Chain of Memories has Replica Riku who is much harder than the final boss. 358/2 Days also has a rather easy final boss. Birth by Sleep was the first Kingdom Hearts where the final boss was not a total pushover, imo.

Kingdom Hearts definitly has hard bosses, but most of the time they appear much earlier in the game. However, I would also argue that KH being an action RPG, many of the bosses that appear hard for one player may not necessarily be hard for another one.

And you know what was total BS? dying to Ventus' final boss in one shot due to failed QTE.

 

[fireflame]

Fallout 1 and 2 bosses can be both the hardest and easiest enemies depending on how you handle them, The Master can be a bit tough, but you can handle him through dialog or detonate the bulding with a bomb. And Frank Horrigan can be tough but if you combine turrets + convince enclave soldiers to help you, he his easy to bring down. But some may consider this as metagaming.

 

[Sölf]

And you know what was total BS? dying to Ventus' final boss in one shot due to failed QTE.

Oh, yeah, I remember that. Fun times. Even though, depending on how you "count", that wouldn't even be the final boss, since he is only the final boss of Ventus' story, not of the whole game. xD

 

[Mysterious]

Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
Super Mario Galaxy (but it was still pretty easy)
Resident Evil 6 (Leon's campaign)

 

[Green Mega Man]

Dracula in Castlevania 1 and 3. Twenty+ years of trying and I'll never beat them. NEVER!

DON'T LOOK AT ME!!
/runs away sobbing

 

[Dizzy]

Metroid Prime.

I disagree. I thought its attacks were relatively easy to dodge compared to Ridleys.


My answer is Clock Tower 3. The game seems notorious for this. I remember the game being a cakewalk but the last boss taking like half hour to die lol

 

[ar4757]

Wasn't Nyx from Persona 3 pretty hard; I remember it taking like an hour to beat

 

[PSqueak]

Wasn't Nyx from Persona 3 pretty hard; I remember it taking like an hour to beat

That's because it has 13 phases rather than being hard, to me it was most a test of not running out of spells and items.

 

[DemWalls]

The Last Remnant. It has optional super bosses but they're at the very best, as hard as the final boss but that's probably pushing it. Hardest super boss has a 10 round timer that makes the challenge. The last boss is just a savage onslaught

Really? I think The Fallen is way harder than Conqueror, and that timer is just bullshit. That's why I find it stupid that the former disappears shortly before the end of the game. Always thought that if you're able to beat it, the last boss will be a cakewalk.

 

[KirbKirb30]

Jak II's final boss is the most incredibly frustrating boss in a game full of incredibly frustrating bosses. Must have taken me 90 minutes to beat, and that insured that I will never attempt to beat that game again.

 

[Keasar]

This dude I found to be the only hard boss in MGR, just couldn't beat him no matter what. Eventually stopped trying and moved on to another game.

I sat for two hours straight retrying Armstrong over and over until I finally beat him by a hair, was one of the most glorious feelings ever.

And yeah, I'd post Armstrong too.

 

[Elman]

The last final boss I remember giving me the most trouble in a game was FFXII. Maybe I just screwed up though...

This is actually a good example. Every other REQUIRED boss in the game is a complete pushover, even without grinding. Then you have Flying Mecha Barry Bonds and his one-shot killing sprees.

 

[AerialAir]

Quake 4.

But nobody remembers that game. So underrated.

 

[Zolo]

That's because it has 13 phases rather than being hard, to me it was most a test of not running out of spells and items.

It also has that one spell that can cause random status effects at the end that can screw you over.

 

[Fevaweva]

But the final boss is

Spoiler

Letho

which is a lot easier

Not for me he wasn't! You can talk your way out of fighting him.

 

[Hero Prinny]

You don't deserve your user name. You have failed the Prinnies.

Spoiler

I spent more lives on that bastard than I did on the rest of the game's stages combined.

Don't get me started on the DLC... I still shiver at the memory of Baal's Castle.

it got to a point where i was no longer having fun, i just wanted to see how the game ended at that point

 

[DaciaJC]

Did you?

Someone proposed that the final bosses of Bloodborne are the hardest in accordance to the thread title, i countered saying this is not true because Martyr Logarius (and for the record, bosses like Rom or Mergo's Wet Nurse too) is harder, hence i was merely declaring that Bloodborne does NOT meet the criteria for the thread by virtue of its final bosses not being the hardest.

How is that not appropriate discussion for the thread?

If you're bringing up Martyr Logarius, then you're engaging in a different discussion than that set forth by the OP.

"List examples of games where of all the mandatory bosses, the final boss is the hardest one."

You can disagree with Bloodborne because you think that, say, Rom is harder than Gehrman/MP, but ML isn't relevant here.

 

[cj_iwakura]

it got to a point where i was no longer having fun, i just wanted to see how the game ended at that point

I feel you. It's not even a cool final boss, he's just an annoying punk.

Kind of like NMH2, come to think of it.

 

[Belker]

Teslagrad. Spent five hours (or more), still haven't beaten him. Even had the game's composer watch me stream on occasion. Had to apologise for giving up.

 

[cj_iwakura]

I know that was the case for some of the boss battles like Borgan. But I thought Zophar was harder in the remake.

That's what this Let's play and discussion thread on differences says.
https://lparchive.org/Lunar-Eternal-Blue/Update 51/
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/197807-lunar-2-eternal-blue/21885487

I haven't played the Sega CD version myself.

But either way, Zophar on the remake was one of the most intense boss battles I had. It took me several tries, each try was about 30 minutes, and when I finally beat him there were so many close calls.

Zophar is definitely harder in the original. If you don't debuff him with Pressure Cooker, he can take out the entire team. And that's just his second form, his first one is already really nasty.

By and large the remakes are easier in every respect, Borgan is just the biggest difference. The final battle of TSS was cut in half, also. Ghaleon only has one form in the remake, he has two in the original.

 

[Man God]

Mizar in Jet Force Gemini is leagues ahead of the rest of the bosses.

Bowser usually is in every Mario game after 3. I think Lemmy is harder in that one.

Wart is absolutely harder than anything in SMB 2.

 

[mnannola]

Baldur's Gate 1 wasn't too hard until the main boss. I don't know if was my character setup or if he was just hard as hell, but I could never beat him. Gave up after 20+ tries.

 

[Sioul]

Really? I think The Fallen is way harder than Conqueror, and that timer is just bullshit. That's why I find it stupid that the former disappears shortly before the end of the game. Always thought that if you're able to beat it, the last boss will be a cakewalk.

Well, The Fallen is not required to beat the game as OP says, but I also think that it is harder than Conqueror because of the 10 turns limit and the fact that you will face it without weapon arts, before you start your grind in Acient Ruins and probably without the Hex that removes AP and can save you from the instakill attack. But in any case The Conqueror (True, Absolute and even the normal version) is really annoying and harder that the other story bosses.

 

[Schlorgan]

Saints Row IV.

Because they take away picking up health from enemies.

 

[DemWalls]

Well, The Fallen is not required to beat the game as OP says, but I also think that it is harder than Conqueror because of the 10 turns limit and the fact that you will face it without weapon arts, before you start your grind in Acient Ruins and probably without the Hex that removes AP and can save you from the instakill attack. But in any case The Conqueror (True, Absolute and even the normal version) is really annoying and harder that the other story bosses.

Yeah, on that I agree. He's really fitting for what OP was asking (I was barely able to beat him), though even some of the guys in the Six Bases weren't pushovers for me.

 

[Greddleok]

I think in WoW, pretty much every final raid boss is the hardest of the whole raid.

 

[Kain]

I still don't understand how people could beat MGR without parrying

 

[Sölf]

I think in WoW, pretty much every final raid boss is the hardest of the whole raid.

Madness of Deathwing and Xavius would like to have a word with you. I also think Jin'do was harder than Hakkar back in Zul'gurub.

 

[UziTheBeast]

The last boss from DMC4 unless my memory is playing tricks on me. I finished the game on every difficulty except the highest due to the final boss, almost killed him but he smoked me while he had like 1% HP left. Very traumatic experience.

 

[Moonstone]

Two Worlds 2

 

[Greddleok]

Madness of Deathwing and Xavius would like to have a word with you. I also think Jin'do was harder than Hakkar back in Zul'gurub.

Yeah, there are a few outliers, but on the whole I think the final boss of each raid was the hardest. I've not played since Cataclysm, and I think most of those final bosses were the hardest...except for maybe Madness.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

I remember this being the case for the final boss in SMT: Strange Journey (Chaos route). Probably the hardest boss I have fought in a JRPG.

Came here for this. Game is hard to begin with but the last boss zzzzz....Completely over the top and requires another 5-10h of grinding honestly. Not great.

 

[Sölf]

Yeah, there are a few outliers, but on the whole I think the final boss of each raid was the hardest. I've not played since Cataclysm, and I think most of those final bosses were the hardest...except for maybe Madness.

Most of the time I would agree, yeah. But Xavius of the first raid of the current expansion is also magnitudes easier than Cenarius, the penultimate boss. One could also argue that all hidden bosses haven't been as hard as other bosses in their tier (Sinestra vs. Al'akir, Algalon vs. Yogg-Saron, Ra-Den vs. Lei Shen).

 

[ConceptX]

Wouldn't

Spoiler

Yu Yevon

technically be the final boss of FFX for posters mentioning FFX, which is also the easiest boss as it's impossible to die, or am I just being pedantic.

Though for that reason it's easy to see why Ject is seen as the final boss.

 

[Kazuhira]

Vergil in DMC3.
Big Baby(both phases) from Parasite Eve 2.
Kratos' clones in God of War.

Final Fantasy 9; Necron.

what was so difficult about this guy? i can't remember anything about this boss.

 

[BathanKaitos]

Breath of Fire 4 Final Boss Fou-Lu

and

All Sigma bosses of Mega Man series. It was terrible...

 

[Vitten]

Conan the Barbarian for Playstation 3.


Simple but fun GOW-clone from the early days of the PS3 with very straightfoward gameplay and your average dificulty.

The final boss however was completely bonkers and in total contrast with the rest of the game. Mutliple stages, devastating attacks... this guy took almost as long to beat as the rest of the game combined.

 

[Inside]

For me the final boss in Uncharted 2 was soooo hard to beat compared to the rest of the game!

 

[PotionBleue]

The Last Story (Wii).

 

[MadSexual]

Rise of the Triad reboot. I had to cheese the fuck out of that rocket spamming asshole.

Edit: named the wrong game!

 

[Saladinoo]

Excluding optional bosses obviously, Final Fantasy X

 

[BareKnuckle]

Shadows of the Damned final boss was bugged on hard mode and impossible to beat, I don't think it ever got patched so that.

 

[NEO0MJ]

Shadows of the Damned final boss was bugged on hard mode and impossible to beat, I don't think it ever got patched so that.

But... I beat it.
And speaking of that game, it was the first time I saw a game where beating​ a high difficulty didn't give you the trophies for the lower ones.

 

[Alavard]

what was so difficult about this guy? i can't remember anything about this boss.

The only thing I remember is he had the Grand Cross attack, which did a ton of damage to your party and could inflict nearly any status ailment upon them, which could really screw you over.

 

[lumzi23]

But the final boss is

Spoiler

Letho

which is a lot easier

Ah, that's right (I think). Is he the final boss on both paths?

 

[Stider]

Legend of Dragoon is a qualifier from what I remember. Hell, I remember the guide having a turn by turn breakdown of what to do to try and avoid getting stomped.

 

[Jake.]

Final Boss in Ni No Kuni. Now I've beaten lots of hard games, but this boss is ridiculous. My battles with it would take 20-30 minutes per round. It's got like 4 forms to go through.

i thought this battle was actually too easy, although i was probably over levelled (around 70 IIRC). only died a couple of times in the whole game and that was mostly at the start when your MP was so low. toughest boss was that jellyfish thing by far.

necron in FF9 is challenging, but using amarant to throw shit helps alot. barthawhatever in FF13 was way more difficult than orphan: only pain in the ass is that instant death spell, so you need to equip at least one if not two seraph crowns.

 

[Slythe]

Diablo 1 - I had to tap my healing potions so fast.

Demons' Souls - A lot of people would disagree but

Spoiler

the false king

handed me more deaths than

Spoiler

flamelurker or maneaters

combined.

Sonic Adventure - Gliding across that water up to the giant boss was absolute torture.

 

[Mexen]

I remember this being the case for the final boss in SMT: Strange Journey (Chaos route). Probably the hardest boss I have fought in a JRPG.

Oh, boy ( ._.) This is what I am currently playing.