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[jbug617]

Forza screenshot from the article

 

[Savantcore]

Scorpio made simple: the next Xbox's specs explained for the less tech-literate

Internal power brick!

 

[SilentRage47]

Yeah so basically a slightly better PS4 PRO 1 year later.

 

[Milly Osworth]

Neogaf meltdown in 3.. 2.. 1..

 

[Zyae]

"drop cpu rendering work load by half on tittles built on DX12"

 

[geordiemp]

So its a special cooled Pro with higher clocks.

Smart, makes sense

The Dx12 code is interesting

 

[GHG]

Hold fuck those clock speeds.

The cooling better be good and this thing better be reliable in the long run.

 

[BigAl1992]

Jaguar was always going to be used. Let's be honest; Ryzen is relatively new and aimed for the enthusiasts. If that had been in Scorpio, it would've been way too much in terms of the final asking price for the regular consumer. That said, I do like those specs, and makes me look forward to where we can be for the next generation in 3-4 years time.

 

[Forkball]

The numbers are definitely higher than other numbers. Some may argue that the numbers are not high enough, but we can all agree on this: they are numbers.

 

[Daffy Duck]

Crazy.

Not sure I'll buy one though as I still think most of my friends will be playing on PS4.

 

[TylerDurden4321]

Higher frequency and not too many more compute units is good for frame pacing, but what about cooling? Will this thing be super big again?

 

[LordKano]

How many GameCubes tapped together it is ?

 

[Complicated]

Sounds fantastic so far. I'm in on day one.

 

[JordanN]

Moar jaguar

 

[TyrantII]

Jeez

Gotta pay the bills.

So, another mid-gen refresh. That 4K physical drive is a slap to Sony, and a wee bit amusing considering the XBO digital supremacy marketing they've now completely backtracked on (thank God). Good on them for giving people what they want.

 

[Green Yoshi]

CPU usage will be cut in half on DX12 titles, as DX12 is 'baked in' to the chip. Nice...

How many games support DX12? Is Fallout 4 with 60 fps a possibility?

 

[cyber_ninja]

It's a Jaguar with six legs for extra stability.

And a tale of a scorpion.

 

[Betty]

So is it basically Xbox one S pro?

Yes, it's what the PS4 Pro is to the PS4, just more powerful.

Not at all a next gen hybrid like many thought.

 

[Coin Return]

Impressive.

 

[ekim]

The Jaguar inclusion seems to be offset by some of the custom hardware they've included designed to handle certain DX12 operations - though we'll have to see how that pans out.

The things that really stood out to me are the forced 16x AF, forced v-sync (of some sort) and the inclusion of FreeSync/HDMI 2.1 adaptive refresh.

Freesync is forced? That's really good!

 

[VanWinkle]

The Jaguar inclusion seems to be offset by some of the custom hardware they've included designed to handle certain DX12 operations - though we'll have to see how that pans out.

The things that really stood out to me are the forced 16x AF, forced v-sync (of some sort) and the inclusion of FreeSync/HDMI 2.1 adaptive refresh.

Forced 16x AF and v-sync is amazing.

 

[kiguel182]

So it's a slightly better Pro? Cool. I guess they inverted the original PS4 v Xbox 1 situation.

They can probably get a 399 price tag in the fall then.

 

[Auctopus]

Sounds similar to PS4 Pro in the way that it provides a clearly better gaming experience but isn't necessarily a "must-buy" for a lot of gamers.

Just my take.

 

[cw_sasuke]

So is it basically Xbox one S pro?

Difference between this machine and the regular One/S is much bigger than the PS4 compared to Pro.

 

[Random17]

So when people were saying it's like the launch PS4 vs the launch Xbox they were not talking lightly. It's barely an upgrade over the Pro.

Not sure if I agree, especially looking at the bandwidth difference.

 

[Risk Breaker]

Jaguar.

Zzzz.

 

[PeskyToaster]

Jaguar is unfortunate. Will likely be a bottleneck. But 12GB of GDDR5, wow!

I think the money would have been better spent on the CPU anyway besides just putting 8GBs of GDDR5 into it. I don't think anything is really RAM bottlenecked.

 

[VE3TRO]

The Jaguar inclusion seems to be offset by some of the custom hardware they've included designed to handle certain DX12 operations - though we'll have to see how that pans out.

The things that really stood out to me are the forced 16x AF, forced v-sync (of some sort) and the inclusion of FreeSync/HDMI 2.1 adaptive refresh.

Awesome.

 

[KOHIPEET]

12 GB is pretty rad.

 

[nynt9]

Digital foundry estimates it will be $499, and the CPU isn't a zen. Otherwise seems like a good system, but it remains to be seen whether they can compete without improving their game library.

 

[Blobbers]

article readers robbed, article doesn't even mention the CPU unless I'm blind

 

[guybrushfreeman]

Everything seems as expected. Sounds just like the Pro but quite a bit stronger

 

[Lokbob]

399$ might be doable?

 

[daveo42]

I's an overclocked jaguar.

Lovely specs, will play 1080p 60fps easily.

Yup. Completely expected they would go with something like that over dropping more on a Ryzen at this point. That bump in RAM and GPU is pretty sweet tho. Not really in the market for an Xbox, but this does look like a decent bump for those looking for it.

399$ might be doable?

They'd be stupid to sell it for anything more.

 

[DarkestHour]

Well that is a let down regarding Jaguar.

 

[danowat]

How many games support DX12? Is Fallout 4 with 60 fps a possibility?

This is my question.

They've obviously gone hard on hardware DX12 support, but how will this translate to non DX12 titles?

 

[hodgy100]

Seems about right for a device that launches 1 year after the pro. I'd imagine the price is similar to the pro was at launch.

Digital foundry estimates it will be $499, and the CPU isn't a jaguar. Otherwise seems like a good system, but it remains to be seen whether they can compete without improving their game library.

its jaguar. the base architecture is still Jaguar

 

[MetalliCabombination]

The Jaguar inclusion seems to be offset by some of the custom hardware they've included designed to handle certain DX12 operations - though we'll have to see how that pans out.

The things that really stood out to me are the forced 16x AF, forced v-sync (of some sort) and the inclusion of FreeSync/HDMI 2.1 adaptive refresh.

Sounds pretty decent.
Any price point info?

 

[Andrefpvs]

System-wide supersampling confirmed.

Take note, Sony.

 

[casey_contra]

The only thing that worries me is compatibility across the OG and Scorpio... with such a huge jump I feel like some games that are essentially "developed" for Scorpio will be junk on a standard XBONE.

But. I say leave 'em in the dust!!!

Spoiler

I'm not buying it regardless... where the exclusives at?

 

[demigod]

I guess the DF leak is now somewhat vindicated.

Correct me if im wrong but aren't these specs the exact same as the leak?

 

[Bitch Pudding]

Jaguar or not, it's still an amazing console.

The only idea we can burry for now is the one with the exclusive Scorpio games arriving at some point.

 

[franklyshankly]

I can't watch the vids, have they said if the GPU is Polaris or Vega? Or are they just saying "custom"

 

[Zoom In]

So how does it compare to the ps4 pro? Is the extra 4gb of GDDR5 big?

 

[flkraven]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...-five-ways-your-existing-games-will-be-better

Improved texture filtering sounds interesting:

"We built into the hardware the capability of overwriting all bilinear and all trilinear fetches to be anisotropic," Andrew Goossen reveals. "And then we've dialled up the anisotropic all the way up to max. All of our titles by default when you're running on Scorpio, they'll be full anisotropic."

Good quality texture filtering will make a big difference to a large number of Xbox One titles, where typically 4x anisotropic tends to be the balancing point chosen by developers. The leap to 16x, enforced at a system level by the back-compat engine, is a huge boon, especially in concert with the complete lack of screen-tear and smoother overall performance. More good news: this new feature extends to Xbox 360 games too

 

[Chobel]

Cooling


Kind of water cooling confirmed.

That's one cool invention (pun intended).

 

[Theorry]

Turn 10 ported over Forza 6 in just 2 days.

 

[aussiedude08]

Do console games even have Dolby Atmos support. or will that be more for Bluray movies?

 

[SeeNoWeevil]

Scorpio's design brief was to scale up existing titles to 4K

ZZzzzzzzzzzz

 

[JB2448]

Videos:
Project Scorpio Exclusive: Final Specs Revealed! (Digital Foundry): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE2hNrq1Zxs
5 Ways Scorpio Improves Your Xbox One and 360 Games! (Digital Foundry): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DTmWDhSHC4
Is Project Scorpio better than the PS4 Pro? (Eurogamer): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vDCUcGPTWg

Articles:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-04-06-why-microsoft-is-making-project-scorpio
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...-five-ways-your-existing-games-will-be-better
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-project-scorpio-tech-revealed
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...pio-is-console-hardware-pushed-to-a-new-level
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-04-06-scorpio-for-dummies-the-next-xboxs-tech-explained