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[seph1roth]

Btw

Those 900k consoles in one month in USA are 30 days.

But how many days were counted with PS4 and XBOne in their launch month? Because they were launched in the middle of november, 15-10 days only till the end of the month.

I mean, 900k is a great number but in one month compared to 10-15 days with the other consoles.

 

[Calamari41]

They would find a way. I mean, they did with the 2DS.

Maybe "Can't Switch it"

One of the main reasons that the 2DS worked is because the market as a whole didn't see the 3D functionality as a killer app.

 

[Skittzo0413]

How many days until Nintendos Investors Meeting? Is it 12 days?

Yep. Super interested to hear the actual numbers, as well as their forecasts.

Gonna keep a keen eye on NTDOY that day.

Btw

Those 900k consoles in one month in USA are 30 days.

But how many days were counted with PS4 and XBOne in their launch month? Because they were launched in the middle of november, 15-10 days only till the end of the month.

I mean, 900k is a great number but in one month compared to 10-15 days with the other consoles.

29 days to be fair, but also it was supply constrained (as I'm sure the PS4/XB1 were) so the numbers comparison isn't all that important.

 

[NinjaCoachZ]

Btw

Those 900k consoles in one month in USA are 30 days.

But how many days were counted with PS4 and XBOne in their launch month? Because they were launched in the middle of november, 15-10 days only till the end of the month.

I mean, 900k is a great number but in one month compared to 10-15 days with the other consoles.

Bear in mind this is also in March while the other two had the Black Friday holiday rush.

 

[Deku89]

For people suggesting and hoping for a dockless "Switch", what would it be called?

Lite Switch.

I can see it getting a new version in about 2-3 years or so. Most likely, it'll be XL first (1080p and matches what's on the screen). I doubt they'd go without the dock or joycons, but I can see them making it smaller and maybe bring the clamshell design back.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

Btw

Those 900k consoles in one month in USA are 30 days.

But how many days were counted with PS4 and XBOne in their launch month? Because they were launched in the middle of november, 15-10 days only till the end of the month.

I mean, 900k is a great number but in one month compared to 10-15 days with the other consoles.

It's also March compared to the holiday shopping season. Difficult to compare either way.

 

[Zedark]

Btw

Those 900k consoles in one month in USA are 30 days.

But how many days were counted with PS4 and XBOne in their launch month? Because they were launched in the middle of november, 15-10 days only till the end of the month.

I mean, 900k is a great number but in one month compared to 10-15 days with the other consoles.

Sure. no one is claiming Switch is beating Xbox One and PS4 or anything. The comparison is slanted anyway, since the launch periods are different, the numbers of days are different, and all systems were supply constrained anyway: no one can determine which system performed best.

 

[Dark Cloud]

Yep. Super interested to hear the actual numbers, as well as their forecasts.

Gonna keep a keen eye on NTDOY that day.

Yeah I'm really looking forward to the powerpoints and what Kimishima has to say about sales. It's right before MK8DX too. They probably planned it like that on purpose.

Maybe he'll give some insight to E3 again!

 

[AquaWateria]

Btw

Those 900k consoles in one month in USA are 30 days.

But how many days were counted with PS4 and XBOne in their launch month? Because they were launched in the middle of november, 15-10 days only till the end of the month.

I mean, 900k is a great number but in one month compared to 10-15 days with the other consoles.

Its like you're purposely ignoring the fact that the PS4 and Xbox One released near the holidays while Switch released during March.

 

[Dre3001]

Yeah I really think a lot of people on GAF make a lot of weird assumptions when it comes to how the average consumer sees pricing. "This thing is portable?? No way is it worth more than $200!!" This isn't a thing that happens.

People see a certain value in the device, in the concept, and in the library (present and future). That's how people determine the value of video game consoles.

I agree with you that the value of a console is determined based on the device, concept, and library. However something having value does not mean a consumer is willing to pay that amount.

For example, when the PS3 launched I think most consumers would agree based on the technology used in the system, the blu ray player, etc. that the components used in the system were expensive and that the system itself had a lot of value.

Despite people viewing the system as such, it struggled to sell at its high price tag because it was above the threshold of what most consumers deemed the acceptable price for a console.

I really think in the mind of a lot of consumers they understand the value something may have but they already have an amount in their mind of what they would be willing to pay for it.

 

[seph1roth]

Ok thx guys.

Btw, i'm from Spain and it's not difficult to see a Switch in stores, i don't know how difficult is in USA tbh.

In fact, every store in Spain has 99% of stands full of PS3 or PS4 stuff, XBOne and Switch are DOA, one week after Switch launch my local Game store erased Switch from their stands, every single stand was dedicated to PS3 and PS4 plus one ridiculous stand for XBOne.

Spain is different...and stupid.

 

[fossi8]

Nintendo should cut the price by $50 next holidays, great numbers though.

 

[Skittzo0413]

Ok thx guys.

Btw, i'm from Spain and it's not difficult to see a Switch in stores, i don't know how difficult is in USA tbh.

In fact, every store in Spain has 99% of stands full of PS3 or PS4 stuff, XBOne and Switch are DOA, one week after Switch launch my local Game store erased Switch from their stands, every single stand was dedicated to PS3 and PS4 plus one ridiculous stand for XBOne.

Spain is different...and stupid.

Errr.. The Switch had a better debut in Spain than any other home console in history. Are you sure it's just not on shelves because it's completely sold out?

 

[LordKano]

Ok thx guys.

Btw, i'm from Spain and it's not difficult to see a Switch in stores, i don't know how difficult is in USA tbh.

In fact, every store in Spain has 99% of stands full of PS3 or PS4 stuff, XBOne and Switch are DOA, one week after Switch launch my local Game store erased Switch from their stands, every single stand was dedicated to PS3 and PS4 plus one ridiculous stand for XBOne.

Spain is different...and stupid.

Switch had a huge launch in Spain though.

 

[BaasRed]

There's a Mario Kart bundle coming and content is gonna flow in monthly. Looks like Switch has a long healthy life ahead of it.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

When are we going to learn anecdotal "I can find X system everywhere" posts are not worth arguing? Just wait for official reports.

 

[Nosgotham]

Btw

Those 900k consoles in one month in USA are 30 days.

But how many days were counted with PS4 and XBOne in their launch month? Because they were launched in the middle of november, 15-10 days only till the end of the month.

I mean, 900k is a great number but in one month compared to 10-15 days with the other consoles.

Making comparisons is difficult. It's not holidays season. That would make a big difference. We can't know if it would faew better or not but still respectable numbers imo

 

[Zedark]

There's a Mario Kart bundle coming and content is gonna flow in monthly. Looks like Switch has a long healthy life ahead of it.

That bundle is confirmed Russia exclusive, though. I do think we will see it elsewhere at a later stage, like during the holidays, though.

 

[RichiRamjag]

You're right, I thought it was $350 MSRP. But I bought a Pro Controller with mine, that's why I had the wrong number in mind.

But in any case, the Switch doesn't come with a game, so you have to spend at least $350 on your buy-in.

Do most children have their own iPad...? Most families I know share an iPad. Maybe some teenagers have their own in place of a laptop. I don't have kids so I don't know. Maybe that's more normal than I realize.



It was just a mistake. I was thinking $350+game, but it's only $300+game.

You should have invluded the price of the tv for when they want to play docked.

 

[seph1roth]

Errr.. The Switch had a better debut in Spain than any other home console in history. Are you sure it's just not on shelves because it's completely sold out?

Well, probably because where i live this is Sonyland, and my local Game doesn't give a shit about the rest of GAME stores in Spain, it's like a small retailer, it works by himself...same with Carrefour and other stores.

Is there any Spaingafer from Comunidad Valenciana in here? My city doesn't give a shit about Switch. XD

 

[Zedark]

Well, probably because where i live this is Sonyland, and my local Game doesn't give a shit about the rest of GAME stores in Spain, it's like a small retailer, it works by himself...same with Carrefour and other stores.

Is there any Spaingafer from Comunidad Valenciana in here? My city doesn't give a shit about Switch. XD

Is that a known division in terms of gaming in Spain? Are there areas that are completely Sony-focused while others are much less so?

 

[Salvadora]

My favourite sales anecdotes were during the Wii/360/PS3 days in the "retail musings" thread.

It was like an alternate reality.

 

[seph1roth]

Is that a known division in terms of gaming in Spain? Are there areas that are completely Sony-focused while others are much less so?

Probably, but when i'm referring to game store i mean GAME (like GameStop and others).

As i said, my local GAME doesn't give a shit, it's like Sony store, not a single stand for Nintendo, they even have a PS2 stand.

 

[RichiRamjag]

Well, probably because where i live this is Sonyland, and my local Game doesn't give a shit about the rest of GAME stores in Spain, it's like a small retailer, it works by himself...same with Carrefour and other stores.

Is there any Spaingafer from Comunidad Valenciana in here? My city doesn't give a shit about Switch. XD

Yeah, it's real PC land about two blocks north of my house. Go south, and you've gotta deal with the "xboys". They're the local toughs this way and are always getting into scraps with the Sony gang.

 

[Lizardus]

Yeah, it's real PC land about two blocks north of my house. Go south, and you've gotta deal with the "xboys". They're the local toughs this way and are always getting into scraps with the Sony gang.

No Nintendo gangs? Doomed.

 

[RichiRamjag]

No Nintendo gangs? Doomed.

I get beat up all the time for liking zelda, worst part about is, they wont even take the switch when they're done with me.

Hmmm...

Don't forget the cost of the power draw and, of course, the power draw. You'll also want homeowners/renters insurance so it will be replaced in the event of a fire or a robbery, but you know those plans never include floods... and you know, some games really require a second player to get the most out of them, so you'll probably want to legally adopt child around fifteen years of age.

All in all, the initial buy-in for a Nintendo Switch sits around $14,750. And that doesn't include a Pro Controller.

That was so good that I had to tell my wife about it. We both thank you for the laugh lol.

 

[Finale Fireworker]

You should have invluded the price of the tv for when they want to play docked.

Hmmm...

Don't forget the cost of the power draw and, of course, the power draw. You'll also want homeowners/renters insurance so it will be replaced in the event of a fire or a robbery, but you know those plans never include floods... and you know, some games really require a second player to get the most out of them, so you'll probably want to legally adopt child around fifteen years of age.

All in all, the initial buy-in for a Nintendo Switch sits around $14,750. And that doesn't include a Pro Controller.

 

[phantasmic_glaive]

Its like you're purposely ignoring the fact that the PS4 and Xbox One released near the holidays while Switch released during March.

It's middle of tax season man. Its when everyone has disposable income. I do see Nintendo invading these times for game releases, that's usually Sony exclusive time. Where they been doing it since GOW.

I wouldn't be surprised if Mario released in march as well.

 

[Hattori]

Probably, but when i'm referring to game store i mean GAME (like GameStop and others).

As i said, my local GAME doesn't give a shit, it's like Sony store, not a single stand for Nintendo, they even have a PS2 stand.

if they still have a PS2 stand then that particular store might not get enough traffic to warrant shipments of something as limited as the Switch. I've worked in retail and low traffic stores are not prioritized over high traffic stores. At most they might get 5-10 consoles in a given quarter if at all until stocks are stabilized.

 

[Dark Cloud]

It's middle of tax season man. Its when everyone has disposable income. I do see Nintendo invading these times for game releases, that's usually Sony exclusive time. Where they been doing it since GOW.

I wouldn't be surprised if Mario released in march as well.

I hope this is sarcasm.

 

[Ninferno]

I find it funny that people are actually serious about comparing launch (sales number)/days. Every passable gaming hardware launch from the 3 major platform holders is pretty much supply-constrained anyway so your average sales per day comparison mean absolutely nothing. You are effectively comparing production capacity before launch, which has very little bearing in the long run.

Give it another month or two then maybe we can start talking about some fair comparisons.

 

[ArkhamFantasy]

I find it funny that people are actually serious about comparing launch (sales number)/days. Every passable gaming hardware launch from the 3 major platform holders is pretty much supply-constrained anyway so your average sales per day comparison mean absolutely nothing. You are effectively comparing production capacity before launch, which has very little bearing in the long run.

Give it another month or two then we can start talking about some fair comparison.

You're using facts and logic? Boo this man! BOO!

 

[Gotdatmoney]

You're using facts and logic? Boo this man! BOO!

I gotchu

I find it funny that people are actually serious about comparing launch (sales number)/days. Every passable gaming hardware launch from the 3 major platform holders is pretty much supply-constrained anyway so your average sales per day comparison mean absolutely nothing. You are effectively comparing production capacity before launch, which has very little bearing in the long run.

Give it another month or two then maybe we can start talking about some fair comparisons.

 

[Dark Cloud]

Let's see how MK8DX does. Idk if this is the earliest a MK game has released in a Nintendo system.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

My favourite sales anecdotes were during the Wii/360/PS3 days in the "retail musings" thread.

It was like an alternate reality.

My favourite was that NPD when Mario Kart Wii and GTAIV came out. People were convinced that this was the month the PS3 and the 360 outsell the Wii, because of GTAIV.

What actually happened is that both PS3 and 360 sold worse than the previous month, while the Wii skyrocketed to an absurd record 700,000+ or something.

 

[titiklabingapat]

Btw

Those 900k consoles in one month in USA are 30 days.

But how many days were counted with PS4 and XBOne in their launch month? Because they were launched in the middle of november, 15-10 days only till the end of the month.

I mean, 900k is a great number but in one month compared to 10-15 days with the other consoles.

Remember that launches are usually followed by a few weeks of lull as shipments and manufacturing catches up. The manufacturer likes to bank a whole bunch of stock with smaller orders over months before release then either increase or decrease shipments and factory orders depending on consumer response.

It's not exactly a one for one comparison but the first two weeks of the PS4, XB1 and the Switch likely experienced the same pattern of tons of supply at launch then almost no new shipments as shipping from Asia enters the market a few weeks later. So the 10 to 14 day comparison is still a useful metric.

 

[BaasRed]

That bundle is confirmed Russia exclusive, though. I do think we will see it elsewhere at a later stage, like during the holidays, though.

In UAE the retailers bundled Zelda or 1 2 Switch with the console even though it wasn't an official bundle. Even if countries other than Russia don't get the official bundle I imagine retailers will have some common sense and bundle them to sell more units.

 

[brawly]

The logo are the joycons.
The name is Switch.

We're coming for you Sony,
you arrogant bitch.

Scorpio? Ha, thanks for the laughs.
Once we fill up stock you will fear the graphs.

And Valve, your cute little hats are fucking trash,
meanwhile we make a killing on amiibos without any backlash.


Peace out

Spoiler

I'm sorry

 

[phantasmic_glaive]

I hope this is sarcasm.

A lil bit, lol. But I do think Mario could fare better in march of next year than this holiday. If you don't think so, take a good look at the releases.

What about my post didn't you understand?

 

[Gotdatmoney]

A lil bit, lol. But I do think Mario could fare better in march of next year than this holiday. If you don't think so, take a good look at the releases.

What about my post didn't you understand?

CoD and Star Wars and RDR2 and ect etc will all canabalize each others sales so there will be obvious winners and losers. But Mario's demographic is not affected by a bunch of AAA releases near it.

 

[Dark Cloud]

A lil bit, lol. But I do think Mario could fare better in march of next year than this holiday. If you don't think so, take a good look at the releases.

What about my post didn't you understand?

Mario does great whenever it launches. It can launch in March, June November or whatever. It's a different game from COD. The demographics have no crossover. I shouldn't have to explain this lol. 3D World sold over 5 million. 3D Land sold over 10 million and it came out the same day as A Link Between Worlds during the holidays

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

But is 2.4M is sold, and 2M was produced in the first batch - this means that the second batch is already available for sale? Or was it 2.4M produced in the first batch?

I don't know quite what you mean by batches; production is more continuous than that? Also 2M was their end-of-March shipment estimate from quite some time ago, which they said could be adjusted somewhat based on apparent demand.

i dont even think N can manufacture wii u life totals this year

Year as in 2017, probably not. But we recently did hear a report (unconfirmed) that Nintendo supposedly wants to manufacture 16m for this fiscal year, so passing up the Wii U total before March 3, 2018 would be possible.

I see Switch outselling PS4 in just 3 years

Switch's 3 year total higher than PS4's 3 year total? Possible. Switch lifetime total higher than PS4's lifetime total? Possible. Switch in 2020 higher than PS4 in 2020? That would take a level of success (and production) making the DS and Wii look puny.

PS4 didn't sold that great, many are saying this but compared with prev gen, it's not a disaster but also not that great, just fine.

It's in PS2/Wii territory. Not record-setting, but well above fine.

 

[Col.Asher]

Kirby: Air Ride 2 will push switch to DS numbers.

 

[ghostwritingduck]

Btw

Those 900k consoles in one month in USA are 30 days.

But how many days were counted with PS4 and XBOne in their launch month? Because they were launched in the middle of november, 15-10 days only till the end of the month.

I mean, 900k is a great number but in one month compared to 10-15 days with the other consoles.

Didn't all three consoles sell out during the first month of launch? I still can't get a Switch at retail and I've actively been trying for a couple of weeks.

 

[AniHawk]

I'd be surprised if it has not surpassed 3 million in Japan by August/September.

the system would need to average over 100k a week for that to happen. i really doubt it.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

the system would need to average over 100k a week for that to happen. i really doubt it.

If they get like 200k out there for Kart, and then average around 40k a week with marginal bumps it'd be possible...

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Monkeys and math dont mix.

Like Monkeys and meth.

 

[Skittzo0413]

If they get like 200k out there for Kart, and then average around 40k a week with marginal bumps it'd be possible...

Splatoon 2 would probably be a much bigger driver if we're strictly talking Japan.

 

[phantasmic_glaive]

Mario does great whenever it launches. It can launch in March, June November or whatever. It's a different game from COD. The demographics have no crossover. I shouldn't have to explain this lol. 3D World sold over 5 million. 3D Land sold over 10 million and it came out the same day as A Link Between Worlds during the holidays

Yea.. but it's nothing compared to the 50+ million Mario games sold in the prior gen, I mean people are comparing Switch to Wii, right?

I am living proof of a crossover, either that or you are blind to the demographic that buys good games wherever they are. I'm buying Destiny 2, RDR2 and Mario. Most likely the Switch will be THE second system of choice which already throws that no crossover shit out the window.

CoD and Star Wars and RDR2 and ect etc will all canabalize each others sales so there will be obvious winners and losers. But Mario's demographic is not affected by a bunch of AAA releases near it.

This is 2017 bro. The PS4 is on a roll and a new GT coming out, as well as other stuff. Yea you do have Cod, D2, SW:B2, and a fuckin new R* game. MS has a new system coming out and will have a few different skus and new games. The Switch is a brand new console. It's a dope console, but it has a limited feature set for its price. Point is, yet again, they will get undercut to hell and Nintendo are not moving that needle no time soon. I agree Mario will move units, but it's still going to be tough, just as it was for wiiu.

It's crowded as hell. The only thing I'm saying is I can understand and wouldn't be surprised if he slipped into march and dominated the whole year of 2018.
I wish it was out now, but I understand that they need the big guy for the holidays...

...and that demographics bit definitely doesn't hold weight in its first year as casuals and hardcore alike will buy Mario. IMO of course. 🤗

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Splatoon 2 would probably be a much bigger driver if we're strictly talking Japan.

They'll have a 500k week for Splat.