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Speculation: Crash Bandicoot N-Sane Trilogy is 1yr Console Exclusive (PS4)
- Thread starter jbug617
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Why would they care about XBO and Switch owners ? lol Don't they want people to buy their system?
Consumer good will is simply a good practice, and pays dividends in the long term with increased loyalty to your brand. Do it, and your competitors will often do it as well.
Being honest with your consumers is simply a good rule in of itself, and does not necessitate a reasoning like "helping XBO or Switch." This is being forward with users of your own system, before even getting to any others.
Rellik
Member
Lol yep. It's actually pathetic that some gamers really have this mindset.
People demanded the same with Microsoft and Rise of the Tomb Raider. And this is even worse IMHO, because Microsoft was actively funding the game (or was it the marketing?), while here it seems like Activision is doing the remaster on their own and Sony is just paying for full/temp exclusive. Activision and Sony are doing the same with Destiny TTK exclusive items (a whole Strike, two MP maps, two Exotic guns), we still don't know if (and when) X1 users will get them.
I couldn't care less about this remaster (or ROTR), but knowing the details about their exclusivity is important for transparency IMHO.
Calm Mind
Member
Found on 4chan
Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy classified as a multi-platform game in Australia
http://stevivor.com/news/crash-bandicoot-n-sane-trilogy-classified-multi-platform-game-australia/
Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy classified as a multi-platform game in Australia
http://stevivor.com/news/crash-bandicoot-n-sane-trilogy-classified-multi-platform-game-australia/
GhostTrick
Banned
But I kinda just did!
Ah well, will be getting Crash next month anyway and only paid £170 for a Slim with WD 1/2.
The game itself looks exactly how it should, which is great news and I can't wait to play it.
This stopped being the case around a year ago. Sony walked back from clearly and accurately distinguishing between hard exclusives (e.g. first-party games), temporary exclusives and console exclusives (i.e. games also releasing on the PC but not other consoles). As annoying as it is (I'd say the most egregious example is Nier Automata being labelled a PS4 exclusive after Squeenix had already confirmed a PC release), I can understand why: the amount of people who identify as PC gamers but also own a PS4 is probably quite high and they're not going to buy the PS4 version of a game if they know it'll also be on PC.
If more people had this mentality we wouldnt have had that meltdown thread when bayonetta 2 got revealed.
Granted im guilty of doing it too cause i want 3DS games to come to Switch instead, but those are games exclusive to Nintendo so obviously they wont come to other platforms.
what other games have they been unclear about? It's possible I've missed a few, but even remasters like Grim Fandango and Full Throttle was clear from day one where it was going to.
There are so many games releasing though so i might have missed some this past year
Yeah, sorry, I was casting my mind back too far. PSX 2015 was the last time everything was properly labelled -- e.g. Nioh being announced as a "console exclusive". E3 2016 was mostly first-party stuff, but PSX 2016 was a mess:
Thanks for being on top of that, JaseC. That is very frustrating. It may not seem like a big deal to some, but it buys a lot of consumer goodwill to be honest about these things. Obfuscating these things is a way of squeezing more bang out of a marketing/exclusivity deal at the expense of ease of consumer knowledge.
Hope they go back next PSX. This is a shitty way to be and they know it.
Hope they go back next PSX. This is a shitty way to be and they know it.
To be fair they probably think, "I wish more will have to sell their xbox one and buy a ps4 to play this game"
Djungelfrukt
Member
with all the shit microsoft got for tomb raider i'd imagine people would treat this the same way. as they should.
nope.
nope.
BareKnuckle
Member
That's a weird sign to display in a shop. Can you imagine parents looking at that sign and it just meaning NOTHING.
Haha, what an odd choice.
Haha, what an odd choice.
Well, there's a key difference in that Rise of the Tomb Raider was announced as a multiplatform game and then became a temporary Xbox exclusive whereas the Crash Trilogy has always been advertised as a PlayStation exclusive in a rather withdrawn manner. A game arbitrarily going from multiplatform to temporary exclusive greatly limits its potential audience for no reason other than the publisher wanting a quick buck while an "exclusive" going multiplatform doesn't actually hurt anybody... save for those emotionally invested in the platform in question.
Alessandrodiosi
Neo Member
Yes correct. All games are listed as multi-platform by Australia's classification board. Search Uncharted 4 and Horizon Zero Dawn as examples...
http://www.classification.gov.au/Pages/Results.aspx?q=Uncharted+4&t=lfc
http://www.classification.gov.au/Pages/Results.aspx?q=Horizon+zero+dawn&t=lfc
Djungelfrukt
Member
well, save from the communication, the result is the same, isn't it?
Oh, sorry, I thought you were referring to the not-entirely-upfront marketing and saying people should be annoyed that the game likely isn't a perpetual exclusive. It's safe to say that Acti wouldn't be releasing a game on only a single platform if there were no incentive to do so, but, again, I think the difference in response comes down to expectations: Rise of the Tomb Raider shifted from a multiplatform release to a temporary exclusive whereas the Crash Trilogy has always been advertised as launching only on the PS4. There was no basis to assume it was going to be multiplatform from the off, so people already had their expectations aligned with the reality of the situation.
His pose was better in the placeholder box art.
Out of that list only the first two are "wrong" of Sony. The other ones just seem like you're reaching to complain about something unless I misunderstood what you're trying to get a across. I mean why would Sony list other platforms at their conference. Usually PR for the games is released right away listing all formats by the publisher.
As per this thread I don't know when it happened but every one feels entitled now to play every game on their platform of "choice".
But everyone makes a choice based on available information and isn't forced to buy a certain platform or limit themselves to one platform.
I doubt anyone in this thread bought their console in anticipation of playing remastered crash games.
I'm not saying Sony's evil for wanting to push its own platforms, nor am I saying that it is alone in how it does so. Again, while not ideal for consumers, that does make business sense. The point being made simply that Sony has become less forthcoming with regard to the nature of the games it advertises at press conferences.
tenderbrew
Member
What? No but if a third party game has a chance to come out on other stuff, yes I am hoping if comes to a preferred platform. I have a PS4 but also have a gaming PC and Switch. For a game like this PS4 would be lowest on that food chain given the choice.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Not if Crash was meant to be PlayStation or console exclusive. Tomb Raider was meant to be multiplatform. It was well known and Microsoft payed to delay the game on PlayStation for one year.
daninthemix
Member
I recall these games being annoyingly hard in places. Will there be any concessions for modern wet blanket players like me?
But why? Why would having this game coming out on PC or another console after a year affect your enjoyment of it?
McMoneyman
Member
Crash 1 was pretty tricky, because if you want the gem for breaking all the boxes in a level. You had to do it in one go, because if you died and got back to a checkpoint all the previous boxes were back again. I'm sure this remake will probably solve this.
Damn, you've ruined it now.
THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: BREATH OF THE WILD (Multi Platform)In all honesty, the more people that have the opportunity to play this collection, the better it is but it doesn't make any sense that a retailer would be given this sort of information. They obviously get exclusive branding for games where the publisher/distributor wants to highlight that but no retailer would have access to this sort of information.
There's no reason for Sony or Activision to share this sort of information with them and they've more than likely somebody who works there has read rumors on a place like GAF or just made it up.
Again, I do hope that as many people as possible get the option to play this collection but I really don't think that this means anything at all.
Spieler Eins
Member
This comes to the market leading console, which has a version regurarely being sub 200 bucks in sales at this point. I'd say people actively refusing to get one for exclusives, including a remaster of once PS mascot games, are more likely to have that console war reception. Anyway, the best generations were when you could get any console and each one would give you an unique library. Clone libraries like PS360 ultimately make me miss out more, since there's too little of a point in getting multiple systems and its few exclusives.
Just checking, are you implying that BOTW isn't multi platform? Because it definitely is.Damn, you've ruined it now.
GhostTrick
Banned
I mean, have you readed the post he answered too ? I cant see what could justify the "I hope it's a full definitive exclusive" mindset except for console war.
Also, I dont actually believe that the best generations where the best because each hardware had a unique library but more like because the game output for a lot of studios was faster and wealthier.
yeah
btw, Crash Bandicoot is already in Top10 Bestsellers in PC & Video Games for 2017 on Amazon UK (2 months before release):
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[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/hxMy3BL.png[/IMG]→ https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/2017/videogames/
has Sony made any statements with regards to Crash exclusivity?
If not, I've gotta ask: how is this acceptable? I get it, you're not gonna announce any other platforms during the show, nobody expects you to. But then you clarify after the show so the consumers don't spend a year+ playing the guessing game, especially since Sony have been fucky this gen when it comes to labeling their games. And Crash is no different. You got people coming out every month saying different stuff.
Can you honestly say in your heart of hearts Sony's messaging with Crash has been clear?
If not, I've gotta ask: how is this acceptable? I get it, you're not gonna announce any other platforms during the show, nobody expects you to. But then you clarify after the show so the consumers don't spend a year+ playing the guessing game, especially since Sony have been fucky this gen when it comes to labeling their games. And Crash is no different. You got people coming out every month saying different stuff.
Can you honestly say in your heart of hearts Sony's messaging with Crash has been clear?
McMoneyman
Member
I think a lot of people really underestimate how popular Crash is outside forums like NeoGAF and others. Especially for people who grew up in the 90s.
Can see the PS4 version of this doing 2 million at least.
Can see the PS4 version of this doing 2 million at least.
I would also add Both Tekken 7 and Ace Combat to those. Ace Combat was announced as coming "exclusively to PlayStation VR" initially, and Tekken 7's status on anything other than PS4 was in question for a ridiculous window of time.
Well, Sony's messaging is pretty clear: the game will be released on PS4
I don't understand why they should bother with announcements for other platforms. About other versions you should probably ask Activision, not Sony.
Activision isn't going to pass up money, and they hold all of the cards
Keeping one year exclusivity a semi-secret benefits them. They get all of 'a PlayStation exclusive returns' buzz, then a year down the line they get to pick up the remaining Xbox One and Nintendo Switch purchases.
The term "console exclusive" isn't well defined, so I assume it isn't implying a PC release, because I don't think Activision would sacrifice full exclusivity to support that platform alone.
Keeping one year exclusivity a semi-secret benefits them. They get all of 'a PlayStation exclusive returns' buzz, then a year down the line they get to pick up the remaining Xbox One and Nintendo Switch purchases.
The term "console exclusive" isn't well defined, so I assume it isn't implying a PC release, because I don't think Activision would sacrifice full exclusivity to support that platform alone.
Lol no
How would you know someone is actively refusing this? I have a ps4 yet id still prefer it on pc since that would allow for a much better experience for me.
And I very much imagine this is the case for most people. It's not about refusal it's about another platform providing a better experience for them, wether that's switch, Xbox or pc.
SlipperyFishes
Banned
But this is the same shit we saw with Tom Braider (that jerk!) and to a similar level the exclusive Destiny content that is for one year (but quietly extended).Well, Sony's messaging is pretty clear: the game will be released on PS4
I don't understand why they should bother with announcements for other platforms. About other versions you should probably ask Activision, not Sony.
Why does this get a pass if it is a one year exclusive?
Jawbreaker
Member
It's shitty that Sony and Activision aren't being clear on the status of this game's (non?) exclusivity. I wish they would just outright state it.
Spieler Eins
Member
The fact that it's not clear compared to everything else should tell you that it's not exclusive though. As for the details, as others already mentioned, that's obviously not Sony's job.
In this thread someone has already told me he doesn't buy anything not coming to/being Switch. I'd imagine your case is the minority, since port begging wouldn't be frowned upon if it didn't come from console wars.
Booker.DeWitt
Member
Oh, I see
Port-begging is frowned upon, because left unchecked it has the potential to override pretty much any discussion about a game regardless of thread topic (so 50% of the posts in every thread relating to the game ever, may end up being something along the lines of "I wish/hope for this game on platform X").
Coveting exclusivity on the other hand usually comes from console wars, and the desire to be able to add the game to a list to use as ammunition that your chosen console is "objectively" superior.