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Samurai Jack Season 5 |OT| But Yeah, I’m Thinking I’m Back.

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So glad Jack got back after all these years. The episode definitely felt rushed but I'm just glad we got closure. Thank you Genndy and Adult Swim!

Also, that final shot was so beautifully​ animated.
 

Nia

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I'm sorry Jack. I know it hurts. I won't forget you.
 

Ecotic

Member
It just felt right for it to end with Aku's defeat and the immortals Jack and Ashi (being a demon) reign as the new Emperor and Empress and bring eternal peace and justice to the future. It felt like that was what the series was trying to tell us, that despite Aku's reign there was much beauty in the world, a new beauty with colorful aliens and monsters. It was the world I fell in love with.

Instead, Ashi died and the future world we saw for 5 seasons got blinked out. :(
 

Fj0823

Member
My 2 favorite Time Traveler characters,
Trunks
and Jack got fucked hard by life in their new seasons ):

This trend has to stop. ):
 
It just felt right for it to end with Aku's defeat and the immortals Jack and Ashi (being a demon) reign as the new Emperor and Empress and bring eternal peace and justice to the future. It felt like that was what the series was trying to tell us, that despite Aku's reign there was much beauty in the world, a new beauty with colorful aliens and monsters. It was the world I fell in love with.

Instead, Ashi died and the future world we saw for 5 seasons got blinked out. :(
I don't know if all of them would not exist in the future though. The only reason Ashi vanished is because she is a direct descendant of Aku. The Scotsman family, the Dogs, Woolies, and the rest might all exist in the future. Just in a future where they can live in peace. Still a bittersweet ending though.
 

RagnarokX

Member
Jack's existence doesn't depend on Aku being around.

And I know someone's going to respond with "but then how does he get back to the past in the first place?", but come on now. This has sure as hell never been the type of show to worry about that kind of stuff.

Jack's existence in the past after being sent to the future depends on Aku being around. Having Ashi disappear is them worrying about that kind of stuff but creating something worse. If they wanted a tragic ending they could have done it simpler: Jack was forced to kill Ashi. Killing Aku simply caused Ashi to also die due to their relation.
 

caliph95

Member
After all this all im going to say this episode this episode the final episode of Jack ever the end of the whole thing, a classic cartoon

......it's alright i guess, the pacing really fucked it up the episode felt too rush and imo needed two episodes to feel fully satisfying. Not bad though and the end got me but overall meh
 

Harpoon

Member
Having Ashi disappear is them worrying about that kind of stuff but creating something worse.

There is a world of difference between having Ashi disappear because of Aku dying in the past and "if Jack kills Aku in the past then that means he has no way of ever returning to the past, which means he never kills Aku in the past, which means..." and so on. It's as simple as Jack's entire mission of erasing the future brought about by Aku by killing him in the past.
 

whipihguh

Banned
I liked a lot about the ending, but Ashi suddenly disappearing seems like a bit of an ass pull just to end the show on a bittersweet note. Having her exist for so long and then disappear at that moment makes no sense beyond just adding some last minute sadness.

Also, weren't Jack's parents extremely old and malnourished when Jack first fought Aku? I assume Genndy just overlooked that to avoid confusion with those watching the show for the first time, since there wasn't much time to bring that point up.

A lot of the season's problems are due to some terrible pacing at points. There were a few significant moments in the season that just drag on for not much of a good reason, and a lot of other parts are just rushed in a way that feels like they really had no time (like Jack confronting his anger and getting his sword back).

I still liked it overall, but beyond many decisions in the story that I disagree with, I feel like it could've been a lot better if the show had an other episode or was just paced better. The first few episodes were great, but I feel like the season went downhill past that point, but a lot of that has to do with pacing and some strange focus on less interesting plot points.
 
this episode, as many before it, felt extremely rushed and like they needed to have a longer season. if that wasn't obvious.

I'm glad it finally ended, but at the same time instead of feeling sadness at that ending I just laughed and screamed "THEY TTGL'D ME!"

And sorry Genndy, if you are going to have the guardian in this show exist and a future vision of badass king warrior jack, then have this whole season be something else then you should have used multi verse theory. That ass pull at the end for an emotional manipulation didn't feel earned.
 

whipihguh

Banned
this episode, as many before it, felt extremely rushed and like they needed to have a longer season. if that wasn't obvious.

I'm glad it finally ended, but at the same time instead of feeling sadness at that ending I just laughed and screamed "THEY TTGL'D ME!"

And sorry Genndy, if you are going to have the guardian in this show exist and a future vision of badass king warrior jack, then have this whole season be something else then you should have used multi verse theory. That ass pull at the end for an emotional manipulation didn't feel earned.

It still really annoys me that he did this. I understand he probably had a different idea for the ending by the time this season was in production (or there may have not been much of an ending idea beyond "King Jack" when he made that Guardian episode), but that was still a pretty big plot point in the series (well, as far as one can be in an episodic show like this), and I feel like he should've done something with it instead of an immediate "lol he ded" at the very tail end of the show, since that feels like a bit of a copout. Or Genndy should've been a bit upfront about the Guardian not being a part of the finale, since when you're making a series finale for a show that already dropped hints of what the ending will be, people are gonna expect that plot point to play out in some way, especially when you have a bearded Jack running around.

I still like that the gods took the time to give him a clean shave, lol
 

Zeus Molecules

illegal immigrants are stealing our air
The finale should have been an hour long episode. It just felt so rushed.

I agree with that. Everything after Ashi regains control feels really rushed
I
am also glad we saw Aku turn into some lovecraftian monster at the end of the future fight. Anything less would be a disappointment. With that said Aku had killed so many of his friends and allies even if he stayed it would of been bitter sweet
 
Well... I'm very glad that the first three episodes exist, and that the ending wasn't a copout about "the real past was the friends we made along the way" or "Jack uses his one chance to go back and save Ashi."

Other than that, I think that Ashi's characterization was all over the place, the final episode felt super cookie-cutter, the tone shifts were extremely weird, and the subplots (Jack's lost sword + Scaramouche racing to tell Aku about it in particular) felt extremely oddly paced to the point of completely undermining themselves. Also. while I get that behind shackled to the Guardian premonition of Bearded King Jack over a decade after you wrote that scene and got new ideas must be a sticky situation, but having the solution be handwaving it away as "oh, the magical time portal was wrong about seeing the future, and the Guardian died" almost made it feel like they shouldn't have even bothered bringing it back up if that was their answer.


And yeah, the ending "twist" being Gurren Lagann but... far less competently executed (love interest is daughter/creation of the bad guy, is transformed into inhuman thing to fight against hero after they find love together, fights back with the power of love, fades away during wedding) is... I almost found it funny, which I don't think they intended.
 

Zolo

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I'm satisfied with the final season. I think the first 3 episodes were the best, so I think the rest could have been done better, but ultimately satisfied with how everything panned out.
 

MMarston

Was getting caught part of your plan?
Yeah, this finale could have been better and would have benefited from being an hour long. Was pretty rushed.



Apart from that, I am satisfied and can die happy.
 
Also Jack's mom and dad must have found a time portal as well, because they de-aged to their Young Jack ages instead of their white haired "adult Jack about to face Aku for the first time" ages.
 
I think part of the issue is that the first three episodes felt very new, while the rest of the season felt like old-school Jack. Whether or not that's a bad thing, I don't know. Will need to rematch all of this back-to-back to see how it flows.

Overall, though, I'm satisfied.
 

MMarston

Was getting caught part of your plan?
Also Jack's mom and dad must have found a time portal as well, because they de-aged to their Young Jack ages instead of their white haired "adult Jack about to face Aku for the first time" ages.

Wait a minute...



Ending feels rushed and way too convenient?



Some plot things being inconsistent towards what's been seen? (e.g. Jack's parents, Guardian's vision)



Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I smell




Indoctrination theory




lol
 

Fj0823

Member
Well the good news is that now that Jack is out of that forced heteronormative bullshit he can be with his real soulmate...

Johnny Bravo.
 

Dusk Golem

A 21st Century Rockefeller
I liked the ending decently enough, it felt befitting. Actually it's a bit weird how much this episode felt more like traditional Samurai Jack compared to the rest of the series, and not just in the cameos either. Last season was good, not perfect but with some serious highlights. It could've been better with some more episodes and more time to develop some things.

Also to the Courage the Cowardly Dog talk on the last page, the episode with the alligator and the puppet where Eustice and Muriel get turned into puppets and Courage enacts their lives was oriignally a placeholder ending, IE if the show didn't get picked up that'd be the series ending. But it did get picked up. However that episode with Courage's past, where we learn how he met Murielle and what happened to his parents with the twisted veterinarian was actually not the final episode, IT WAS in the final episode, but Courage episodes were all split into two parts outside of one (The Mask episode), and the origin story one was the first part of the final episode. The ACTUAL finale of Courage is the "Perfect" episode where a Teacher appears and criticizes Courage for not being perfect. The most famous thing from the finale of Courage is that blue CGI face thing saying, "You're not perfect...".

Also Jack's mom and dad must have found a time portal as well, because they de-aged to their Young Jack ages instead of their white haired "adult Jack about to face Aku for the first time" ages.

Aishi got some Aku magic to pass around to Jack's family, obviously.

I also wonder if his parents ever questioned why Aishi kept calling their son Jack.

Well the good news is that now that Jack is out of that forced heteronormative bullshit he can be with his real soulmate...

Johnny Bravo.

HOO-HAA
 
Ashi: Jack... without Aku, I would have never existed. (whoosh)

Jack: No... her final words to me... were unnecessary exposition.

Emperor: Son...

Jack: Yes, father?

Emperor: Why did she call you "Jack"?

Jack: That's... oh whoops lol i never told my true love my name lmao
 

KingBroly

Banned
I really didn't like
the delay on Ashi's death. I felt it was overly cruel. The parallels between Jack's hair and the tree at the end were good though.

The Best Part was
Aku being 100% meta having created the Introduction to the Show,
lol
 

Dusk Golem

A 21st Century Rockefeller
"MY KATANA IS THE KATANA THAT WILL PIERCE THE HEAVENS!!"

I do like the finale, but it's very easy to make jokes with some of the final season stuff. Overall the last season was good, just a bit rushed in bits and a bit tropey in parts.
 
Ashi: Jack... without Aku, I would have never existed. (whoosh)

Jack: No... her final words to me... were unnecessary exposition.

Emperor: Son...

Jack: Yes, father?

Emperor: Why did she call you "Jack"?

Jack: That's... oh whoops lol i never told my true love my name lmao

I never told her my real name.

ADOLF HITLER.
 

Dusk Golem

A 21st Century Rockefeller
I never told her my real name.

ADOLF HITLER.

It's a dumb joke and doesn't really make any sense I know, but I'm chuckling stupidly over here just imagining the final scene of the show extended where everyone's happy and Aishi's vanishing and they say some last words, and Jack brushes his hand on her disappearing face and just says, "Aishi, call me by the name my parents gave me. ADOLF HITLER," Aishi about to vanish simply says, "I love you, Adolf." And then she disappears. Cut, series end.

It's so stupid, why is it making me giggle...
 
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