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[charlequin]

these any good?

Photos look good. I'll take higher-res if you've got 'em, but otherwise this should be fine. Thanks!

HasCon passes just went up and holy shit that's expensive

The regular admission is on the high end but not totally insane -- PAX is in the neighborhood of that $165 price, for example. The "Super Fan" package is obviously, trivially overpriced, but it's for people who will pay for low marginal value because they've got cash to throw around. (And depending on the exact details of the cards and their print runs it's possible the promos could pay for a good chunk of it.)

EDIT: Saw everyone on twitter making fun of the super package and missed that the drafts are sixty bucks. That's ridiculous. I figured a sealed pre-release event with five packs would be justifiable at $60, not a three-pack draft.

EDIT 2: Yeah, it's $60 for a six pack sealed event. That's not unreasonable. Are the drafts really the same price, I don't see them on the page. The Anniversary Drafts with assorted old packs are $15 which again seems pretty fair.

 

[Lucario]

mashup cards confirmed silver-bordered, not reprints

EDIT 2: Yeah, it's $60 for a six pack sealed event. That's not unreasonable. Are the drafts really the same price, I don't see them on the page. The Anniversary Drafts with assorted old packs are $15 which again seems pretty fair.

You sure about this? Trick is referring to it as a draft on twitter.

edit: nvm, page just updated, confirmed it's a sealed event. That's better, but I'm still not seeing how this is more than double the price of GenCon.

 

[charlequin]

mashup cards confirmed silver-bordered, not reprints

Calling it now: one MLP, one Transformers, one Monopoly.

 

[y2dvd]

$60? Oh lawd I better be guaranteed value and then some at that point.

 

[Lucario]

The cosplay policy is bizarre.

Your eyes have to be visible at all times. Looking forward to seeing a Transformer with a paper plate mask on.


edit:

The regular admission is on the high end but not totally insane -- PAX is in the neighborhood of that $165 price, for example. The "Super Fan" package is obviously, trivially overpriced, but it's for people who will pay for low marginal value because they've got cash to throw around. (And depending on the exact details of the cards and their print runs it's possible the promos could pay for a good chunk of it.)

PAX East was $25 or $30 a day in its first year, and stayed in the $100 range for three-day passes until 2017. It's also more than quadruple the floorspace, has more panels and activities, and people still complain that it's more expensive than other cons.

A first year convention being more expensive than PAX is pretty insane. I'm not surprised twitter is pissed, although complaining about the $650 package is definitely missing the mark.

 

[SigmasonicX]

Assuming they are going to be semi-reasonable with the cards, despite being silver-bordered.

Princess Twilight Sparkle - 2URW
Legendary Creature - Pegasus Unicorn
Flying
When Princess Twilight Sparkle enters the battlefield, you may discard any number of cards. If you do, draw that many cards.
Whenever you draw one or more cards, Twilight deals that much damage to up to one target creature.
URW: Exile Twilight, then return it to the battlefield under its owner's control.
2/2

Optimus Prime, Autobot Leader - 3WWW
Legendary Artifact Creature - Construct
First strike, prowess, vigilance
Other Constructs you control get +1/+1 and indestructible.
R: Transform Optimus Prime, Autobot Leader.
6/6
==
Optimus Prime, Super Truck
Legendary Artifact Creature - Vehicle Construct
Haste, first strike
Other Vehicles you control get +1/+1 and indestructible.
W: Transform Optimus Prime, Super Truck
8/4

Rich Uncle Moneybags - XBB
Legendary Creature - Human Advisor
When Rich Uncle Moneybags enters the battlefield, create X colorless artifact tokens named Gold. They have "Sacrifice this artifact: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool."
Whenever you sacrifice a Gold token, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life. Then, if you don't control any Gold tokens, return Moneybags to your hand.
1/1

 

[Lucario]

I'd play rich uncle moneybags as my commander in every playgroup that'd let me. Good designs.

 

[Infinite Stars]

Assuming they are going to be semi-reasonable with the cards, despite being silver-bordered.

Princess Twilight Sparkle - 2URW
Legendary Creature - Pegasus Unicorn
Flying
When Princess Twilight Sparkle enters the battlefield, you may discard any number of cards. If you do, draw that many cards.
Whenever you draw one or more cards, Twilight deals that much damage to up to one target creature.
URW: Exile Twilight, then return it to the battlefield under its owner's control.
2/2

Optimus Prime, Autobot Leader - 3WWW
Legendary Artifact Creature - Construct
First strike, prowess, vigilance
Other Constructs you control get +1/+1 and indestructible.
R: Transform Optimus Prime, Autobot Leader.
6/6
==
Optimus Prime, Super Truck
Legendary Artifact Creature - Vehicle Construct
Haste, first strike
Other Vehicles you control get +1/+1 and indestructible.
W: Transform Optimus Prime, Super Truck
8/4

Rich Uncle Moneybags - XBB
Legendary Creature - Human Advisor
When Rich Uncle Moneybags enters the battlefield, create X colorless artifact tokens named Gold. They have "Sacrifice this artifact: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool."
Whenever you sacrifice a Gold token, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life. Then, if you don't control any Gold tokens, return Moneybags to your hand.
1/1

Just to check, Silver-Borders aren't legal in Commander? Because I would play the shit out of the Optimus one, and I'm not even that big of a Transformers fan.

 

[SigmasonicX]

Just to check, Silver-Borders aren't legal in Commander? Because I would play the shit out of the Optimus one, and I'm not even that big of a Transformers fan.

It's a casual format, you can do whatever your group is comfortable with. Including playing with custom made cards.

 

[red13th]

Did they still not release the Announcement Day date? It's supposed to be in June.

 

[Ashodin]

Did they still not release the Announcement Day date? It's supposed to be in June.

It'll absolutely be during E3.

 

[noquarter]

Anybody else going to the Open in Baltimore this weekend? I'm not smart enough to read the recent results and metagame accordingly so I'm just going to take Affinity and see what happens lol.

I'm planning on going and was thinking of doing the same, taking Affinity.

 

[Remembrance]

The Monopoly card should be:

Free Parking
Land

It has no rules text, but every turn it's in play you have to exile the first card you draw and put it under Free Parking. And if Free Parking leaves play during your turn then you put all the exiled cards into your hand.

 

[Firemind]

ew mono white optimus prime

 

[Santiako]

Get Out of Jail Free WWW

Restart the game.

 

[charlequin]

The Monopoly card should be:

Free Parking
Land

It has no rules text, but every turn it's in play you have to exile the first card you draw and put it under Free Parking. And if Free Parking leaves play during your turn then you put all the exiled cards into your hand.

Hilariously, they would never ever make this, since the Free Parking thing isn't officially part of the Monopoly ruleset.

 

[Joe Molotov]

Hilariously, they would never ever make this, since the Free Parking thing isn't officially part of the Monopoly ruleset.

Maybe it's on a silver-bordered Monopoly rules card.

 

[OnPoint]

Maybe it's on a silver-bordered Monopoly rules card.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

One of the reasons Monopoly sucks is that it lasts too long. The Free Parking house rule just injects more money into the game and makes it last longer. It's perhaps the worst widely accepted game rule ever.

Also I fucking abhor Monopoly.

 

[kirblar]

One of the reasons Monopoly sucks is that it lasts too long. The Free Parking house rule just injects more money into the game and makes it last longer. It's perhaps the worst widely accepted game rule ever.

Also I fucking abhor Monopoly.

I mean, the biggest issue w/ Monopoly is that no one actually plays with the Auction rule.

 

[bigkrev]

Team Draft Super League is coming up. LSV, Efro and Ben Stark vs Sperling, Rietzel and David Williams.

Mind games have already begun

 

[sgjackson]

My LGS runs Commander events and I want to buy into Baral because I'm a sadist who hates fun. I've seen a few decks in the store - a reasonably tuned Breya list, non-degenerate Zur, and a tweaked Meren precon.

Here's a draft of a list. I'm trying to keep it under 100 bucks while also grabbing a grip of Rebecca Guay's C16 islands. The maybeboard consists of counters I'm not sure about, fun targets for Polymorph/Reweave/Synthetic Destiny if I want to be slightly less fun police, and some miscellaneous cuts I made as I was making the list. Anything obvious I'm missing that's not obscenely expensive?

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Zur is always degenerate.

 

[sgjackson]

Zur is always degenerate.

that's fair, more correctly i might say "zur at half throttle"

 

[traveler]

Logan Nettles (Reid Duke's cousin/Jaberwocki of consistent standard excellence on mtgo fame) claims that UR control is incredibly advantaged vs Marvel; he went 6-1 in the MOCS against it. I've been running pretty much near the same list as him and, while I can maybe see that claim for game 1, (hence my enthusiasm about the UR rising the other day) I haven't had near that success post board. I also generally have issues with drawing the wrong type of answers at the wrong time. Does anyone with a lot of experience and success with the deck have any pointers for boarding/play in the post sideboard games vs Marvel?

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

I like to keep or board in further sweltering suns against marvel as they like to go wider post board.

 

[Santiako]

Logan Nettles (Reid Duke's cousin/Jaberwocki of consistent standard excellence on mtgo fame) claims that UR control is incredibly advantaged vs Marvel; he went 6-1 in the MOCS against it. I've been running pretty much near the same list as him and, while I can maybe see that claim for game 1, (hence my enthusiasm about the UR rising the other day) I haven't had near that success post board. I also generally have issues with drawing the wrong type of answers at the wrong time. Does anyone with a lot of experience and success with the deck have any pointers for boarding/play in the post sideboard games vs Marvel?

Could be down to practice. Control matches are where reps with the deck shine.

 

[GoutPatrol]

Logan Nettles (Reid Duke's cousin/Jaberwocki of consistent standard excellence on mtgo fame) claims that UR control is incredibly advantaged vs Marvel; he went 6-1 in the MOCS against it. I've been running pretty much near the same list as him and, while I can maybe see that claim for game 1, (hence my enthusiasm about the UR rising the other day) I haven't had near that success post board. I also generally have issues with drawing the wrong type of answers at the wrong time. Does anyone with a lot of experience and success with the deck have any pointers for boarding/play in the post sideboard games vs Marvel?

I would agree with you on my own experience playing URx control ever since Eldritch Moon. Game 2 and 3 are all about sideboard and see if they bring in the go-wide plan because until Sweltering Suns was printed there were no answers for a resolved Whirler Virtuoso. You could be boarding in for the creature package and then they just drop Flamecallers and you're boned. You keep yours Suns in games 2/3 and if you see they aren't going wide just cycle them. Trade in censors for harder Negate/Dispel counters because they usually bring in Negate themselves and try to wait you out T7/8 to drop a Marvel.

 

[Angry Grimace]

I mean, the biggest issue w/ Monopoly is that no one actually plays with the Auction rule.

The biggest problem with monopoly is that it's a bad game from the thirties.

Any random board game your LGS sells is better in every real way other than having more rules. I can't really envision someone saying they'd rather play Monopoly than, say, Fury of Dracula.

 

[traveler]

Would you guys bring in Things in the Ice as well against Marvel? Can also deal with thopter hordes and turn into threats on their own. The blocking power is less relevant early on, but they do stop 3/2s.

 

[traveler]

Well, I thought I remembered having a hard time with the deck. Just started playing it again for the first time in two weeks after playing Marvel in the competitive standard league. Went 5-0 against 3 mirrors, Temur, and UW flash without dropping a single game. Guess I might try this monday at the ptq after all. Definitely need more reps though.

 

[Violet_0]

thing in the ice does well against marvel, since they have to use a harnessed lightning + energy or 4 damage chandra ultimate to kill it

 

[duxstar]

Holy Fuck I had a night for MTGO to remember ....... 16 land decks and in 3 games in a row i drew 10 + lands (no i wasn't drawing cards) and then in the zombie mirror in a seperate draft, the first game I get all plains, Second game the opponent keeps with no creatures, and 3rd game I draw 11 lands out of 16 in the top 20. Until this draft I was literally 2 - 1 or better in the last 5 drafts I've done. The only time i've lost tonight at all was because of severe flood or mana screw, its frustrating as hell to just lose to a bad g/u deck because you can't hit your 3rd land drop in the top 15 cards of your deck, or to lose because the game decides that your 16 land deck will draw 10 - 11 lands in back to back games.

It wouldn't be so bad if I was losing because the opponents decks were just better, but all night mtgo has been killing me with lands, yeah yeah a game of variance, but god does it fucking suck when you know theres a computer doing the math behind it

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

better than being responsible for it yourself.

 

[DrArchon]

Can I rant about something 100% trivial that's been pissing me off?

I've been looking into making either a RG Energy Aggro or Jund Energy Aggro deck, and that means looking at Longtusk Cub a whole lot.

What the flying fuck is happening with the adult Longtsusk's tusks?! Why are they so comically long? How are tusks that long helpful at all? They're so long and curved that they look like they'd make it impossible for it to even eat anything, and they curve back so far that there's no realistic way for the points to threaten anything. This thing should be either dead or on the verge of dying because it can't eat anything. It's ridiculous.

A big Sabertooth Cat with curvy markings on its hide would've been a million times better, but they instead when with this monstrosity.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

sabertooth cat marquee teeth were ceremonial as well IIRC but yeah the adult should be dead as it impairs her ability to eat.

 

[ultron87]

Maybe it doesn't have to eat because of the energy.

 

[y2dvd]

thing in the ice does well against marvel, since they have to use a harnessed lightning + energy or 4 damage chandra ultimate to kill it

I rather get rid of all the smaller creatures with Sweltering Sun than bounce them back, only for them to replay it and get even more energy.

I'm play testing 2 Cryptic Serpent and in the build that runs 4 Hieroglyphics Illumination, I found myself being able to quickly drop it with back up counters. It may be too cute but I'll give it a run for a while.

 

[OnPoint]

COMMANDER 1V1 BANNED UPDATE

Announcement: May 24, 2017

Effective Date: May 24, 2017

Next Announcement: June 14, 2017

The following cards are added to the Commander 1v1 Banned List:

Dig Through Time
Strip Mine
Treasure Cruise

Here is an explanation from Magic R&D's Bryan Hawley:

Strip Mine

In conjunction with Life from the Loam and Crucible of Worlds, Strip Mine recursion locks have proven to be an extremely powerful and resilient lock taking minimal investment from the decks playing them.

Dig Through Time

Treasure Cruise

Initial results have shown that blue midrange decks, either mono-blue or Sultai-colored, are rising to the top at a steady rate. Given the variety of Commanders being played in decks with similar strategies, this appears to be a color and strategic imbalance in the format more so than individual problem Commanders. While removing these cards is far from a crippling blow to these decks, it's a clear first step in lowering their power level.

Source: [url="http://wizardsmtgo.tumblr.com/post/161023137579/commander-1v1-banned-update]Official MTGO Tumblr[/url]

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

turns out cards banned in literally any constructed competitive format are strong

 

[OnPoint]

Wouldn't mind a Strip Mine ban in normal EDH too.

 

[red13th]

reprint Strip Mine somewhere before plz

 

[DrArchon]

Wait, they didn't start out banned?

I could've told you that DtT and TC shouldn't be allowed in pretty much any 1v1 format.

 

[Firemind]

They still haven't banned Leovold and Tasigur?

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Strip Mine costs like $4

 

[red13th]

Strip Mine costs like $4

not the non-foil modern border version, since it doesn't exist.

 

[Joe Molotov]

Wait, they didn't start out banned?

I could've told you that DtT and TC shouldn't be allowed in pretty much any 1v1 format.

They needed more data.

 

[ultron87]

Frank Karsten has the best articles:
What If All Creatures in Magic Would Enter the Battlefield at the Same Time?

 

[hermit7]

Wouldn't mind a Strip Mine ban in normal EDH too.

It's not too bad in multiplayer. I throw that and wasteland in everything for the cradles, coffers etc that run rampant in most decks.

If they don't show up then they just function as colorless lands which is fine as well for the most part.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

you need strip mines in multiplayer for tempt with discovery alone. Alright everyone, get your strip mines then cry while everyone refuses to do so.