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Dan Aykroyd blasts Paul Feig, says he's not welcome at Sony after Ghostbusters
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UnemployedVillain
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Like I said in my previous post, it grossed ~$230m worldwide. Rogue One, for a budget of 1.4x of Ghostbusters, grossed over 4x the amount it did. Granted it was a part of a major franchise so that would've probably always been the case, but the budget for Ghostbusters was way larger than it had to be.
excelsiorlef
Member
Then again maybe no sequel is ok too... I wasn't a huge fan of the zuul tease at the end tbf.
I will miss that cast though.
I will miss that cast though.
-shadow-
Member
Both Fieg and Pascal ruined a potential good film. The one had a terrible vision and made it clear in the leaked emails that he'd only do it with complete freedom and Pascal for some reason gave that to him (which undoubtedly skyrocketed the budget). The movie could've done just fine without the ridiculous budget it had, but ~144 million (plus 100 million marketing) for a silly ghost comedy is insane. It's a shame that the series is probably dead due to Fieg for another twenty years before it gets a new shot. Would honestly like a sequel to the reboot with a much better script and director at the helm.
I honestly think it could've faired a lot better if they didn't go with the whole misogyny aspect with regards to the pre-release. Man what a mess that was and I've heard from so many they haven't yet and never will watch it just because of that stunt.
ShemhazaiX
Member
This is completely inaccurate. He praised the movie itself. What he's criticising here is Feig overspending and not shooting scenes that needed to be shot.
Count Dookkake
Member
Should've made a Nothing But Trouble remake instead.
Fancyarcher
Member
And that film went over budget too, back in the 90's, lol. I like Akyroyd, and while I absolutely agree with him regarding that budget thing, keep in mind he hasn't been in a huge amount of the quality in the past two decades either, and instead has been relying on claiming that he wants to reboot a franchise like Ghostbusters for example.
kunonabi
Member
To be fair his performance probably would have felt the same even if it was a real ghostbusters movie.
Getting banned in China was also a kick in the balls. Might as well have made it rated-R ala Deadpool if you're going to go all-in on Feig
Most GB producers are still chugging along in the industry but worth noting that producer Amy Pascal was basically fired before release (also thanks to other flops + North Korea).
Most GB producers are still chugging along in the industry but worth noting that producer Amy Pascal was basically fired before release (also thanks to other flops + North Korea).
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
It's too bad Feig was such an uncompromising asshole.
He did nothing to deserve the amount of rope that he was given on that picture.
True. He gave up a long time ago on anything that isn't a passion project it seems.
But when your performance as Garfield has more effort....
excelsiorlef
Member
Don't know that I'd call him an asshole mind you.
Studio should never have ok'd 110 million. That's on them for giving it to him.
Feig had done great work for a lot less
The Greek Freak
Member
The writing is pretty bad as well.
They had enough acting talent that even a mediocre script should have made for a decent movie.
Instead the writing was Sandler-esque.
Honestly the movie would have been much better with the exact same main cast but as it's own action comedy instead of being weighed down by an overrated movie franchise from 30 years ago, but that wouldn't get a huge budget because Hollywood hates original shit.
No nostalgia for the franchise + bad trailers made me avoid it for awhile but I finally bit a couple weeks ago when I was bored. Wish I hadn't bothered tbh.
OR like a lot of people have said and is very important. It should have never been made.
Nobody wanted this version of the ghostbusters. Has nothing to do with being female or the CG or it being a reboot. Ghostbusters fans wanted closure to the series they knew.
The movie was terrible on the most essential level. This movie was a total disaster when it came to the pure craft and probably any film student could do better. This includes the editing, the cinematography and the plot (the script)
Feig is a director without any real talent, because he has no idea how to make a good and interesting movie. He is the king of generic comedy pretty much on the same level as Adam Sandler. He used the same lazy "don't care for a good script let's improvise" attitude which also gave us abominations like Pixels, his generic comedies or the Adam Sandler crap of the last few years. Those movies are pretty much the same, when you boil it all down. Yes of course, Feig casts women so they are better than Adam Sandler movies I get it.
And the most laughable thing, you could not talk about the obvious lack of any creativity or art or skill because this movie was so important, even film critics did not dare talking about, because the one who did was getting death threats.
Feig is a director without any real talent, because he has no idea how to make a good and interesting movie. He is the king of generic comedy pretty much on the same level as Adam Sandler. He used the same lazy "don't care for a good script let's improvise" attitude which also gave us abominations like Pixels, his generic comedies or the Adam Sandler crap of the last few years. Those movies are pretty much the same, when you boil it all down. Yes of course, Feig casts women so they are better than Adam Sandler movies I get it.
And the most laughable thing, you could not talk about the obvious lack of any creativity or art or skill because this movie was so important, even film critics did not dare talking about, because the one who did was getting death threats.
sturgboski
Member
Woah, lets not say things we cant take back.
streetsahead123
Banned
I enjoyed the film but I'm still mystified as to why Sony gave this movie such a high budget in the first place. You can easily make a Ghostbusters movie for like $70 mil and it would be much easier to turn a profit. No need for it to be as special-effects-heavy as a superhero movie.
Feig is a good director but I think he ventured too far out of his element on this one.
Feig is a good director but I think he ventured too far out of his element on this one.
I completely agree with you. They should have gone with new actors, more practical effects and something a little more gritty in tone with the original films. Could have done it on like a $70 million dollar budget and would have been a huge success if the writing was there.
Lord Frieza
Member
Which we can never have because Harold Ramis is dead. So, you either want to the franchise to die or for it to be rebooted.
streetsahead123
Banned
Wtf are ya'll talking about with this "closure on the original Ghostbusters" nonsense? It's a goofy action comedy, not The Sopranos.
TwEE-N-Toast
Banned
Ha, my bad. I read that as movies and not characters.
We're emotion animals and nostalgia is a hell of a drug. I love it, I respect it.
Vincent Alexander
Member
Oof. So Akroyd still thinks it was a good movie....Feige ended up reshooting and adding scenes that Sony and Akroyd suggested should be there, he just didn't do it when first told. So yeah. Shame. I wish Akroyd would just admit the movie was hot garbage. Too bad it was, since the cast really is great.
I think this is my favorite role of hers (guess her Sean Spicer is also pretty good). Don't think the movie is that great, but think she and the rest of the cast was decent.
This is some fun revisionist history.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/bridesmaids_2011
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/spy_2015
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
We need the original director to come back.
I just didn't find her funny at all and found her annoying. At least the others tried and gave me a few laughs(very few though).
ElRenoRaven
Member
She is awful in everything she is in. The only exception is her as Spicey. She is one of the most unfunny people I've seen. Doesn't help that a lot of her movies have had Feig in the directors chair. Speaking of which he was another bad choice. He hasn't made a movie I found funny yet.
That movie really is underrated.No need.
That movie is perfection itself.
Henchmen21
Banned
He was going to at first. Ivan & Dan had been trying for years (even before Ramis died) to get GBIII to exist but Sony continually dragged their feet and purposefully scuttled it.
excelsiorlef
Member
And you know Murray didn't want to.
old manatee
Banned
They should give the franchise to Max Landis.
Aykroyd's been yabbering on about Ghostbusters for the best part of the last twenty years, even going as far as to develop sequels scripts on spec, and nothing happened.
The last Ghostbusters film wasn't just a failure at the box office, it was a failure in terms of merchandising too. Sony thought there was potential in a Ghostbusters cineverse, they found out that there is now and are not doubling down on a weird knock-off Spidey cineverse instead.
The last Ghostbusters film wasn't just a failure at the box office, it was a failure in terms of merchandising too. Sony thought there was potential in a Ghostbusters cineverse, they found out that there is now and are not doubling down on a weird knock-off Spidey cineverse instead.
Hell no.
If it was Sandler style people would have gone to see it.
old manatee
Banned
Actually, she's one of the most talented comedic actors today. And her and Feig had one of the comedies of the past few years in Spy.
WordAssassin
Member
It probably comes more from comments that Aykroyd has made about where he wanted to take the franchise, than anything in the movies themselves feeling like a dangling plot line.
Like, he wanted to do a story where Ghostbusters was franchised out across the US, envisioning a fleet of Ecto-1s crossing the Golden Gate Bridge. He also wanted to send the Ghostbusters to hell. Fans probably would have liked to see those ideas.
He also spoke of wanting to do a girl Ghostbuster, and while we did just get a movie with four of them, I'm sure fans would have liked to see not only how Aykroyd would have done it, but also to see a woman Ghostbuster interacting with the established characters.
Additionally he talked about his vision for a "passing the torch" movie, where the GBs are old and at the ends of their lives and careers, and they bring in new recruits. A necessary evil for the continuation of the franchise but I feel like people would have been more accepting of it if it came from the creator of the series.
So "closure" might just mean wanting to see the stuff talked about for the past 30 years finally get made?
kitsunelaine
Banned
Honestly it's amazing to me how when it comes to the new Ghostbusters (Which I thought was pretty okay. Not great, but perfectly serviceable), people are so quick to fill in what's actually being said with their own opinions on the matter, ignoring what's actually being said. I don't understand how it's such a firey subject.
WordAssassin
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Uhhhh no not really, every story I've heard is that Murray didn't want to do it (he complained endlessly about GBII and also only made it to get another movie made) and he was the constant holdout, always moving the goalpoast for what would get him to be in it.
Before Feig came on and convinced Sony to let him do a reboot, Sony was reportedly looking for a way to sue Bill Murray to force him to sign off on a GB III since they could only ever make a sequel with his approval because of the way the contract was set up (everyone had to be in on it for it to be made).
Now Sony finally bought out the rights so they can do whatever they want with the IP without needing the original people to sign off on everything. They set up GhostCorps to oversee the GB franchise and put Aykroyd and Reitman in charge of it and even though Answer the Call failed they're still gonna pump out more stuff, like the animated GB film, the Ecto Force animated series, supposedly a live action show and undoubtedly more to announce with the anniversary coming up in a week or two.
I mean Ghostbusters as a concept is one of the most easily franchisable things you can think of, I find it hard to believe Sony would drag their feet over making countless sequels and spinoffs especially since they were the ones that demanded GBII after they saw the success the first movie and TV show had.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
What l heard the movie was bad l thought it couldn't be that bad. When l saw it conclusion was it was bad. How they made the script worse than the original is unforgivable,
Henchmen21
Banned
Except one of the many aborted scripts planned around that by having Venkman dead (the Venkman is a ghost script). Whether that would have worked remains to be seen, but Sony continually used that as a crutch to keep from doing it until Remakes became a big thing in Hollywood and by then it was too late.