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[Principate]

lol no.

Of course, having the best characters of all fime helps it a great deal, and probably a ton of its sales is because of that. But to say its "nothing" without Nintendo character's is absurd. The gameplay is top notch, and theres pretty much no competition in what I call the "Smash Genre". Theres like, one pixel based game in the genre on pc that seems kinda good (note: I've never played it. Just remember it.) but theres hardly any more, and what there is mostly have bad gameplay.

I can certainly say if someone made an indie crossover game with much less popular characters like Shovel Knight, Quote, and even if it was very niche characters like Madotsuki or all original characters, that if the gameplay was top notch, and played pretty much exactly like Smash (with different movesets of course) it would sell atleast a million copies WW even if it was all original characters as long as the gameplay is good. There is a great want of more Smash games but noone is really filling it.

There's been plenty of anime cross over fighters with smash gameplay , one even sold 460k on the DS in Japan (this was the shounen jump one)..

 

[WiiRevolution1]

It's not that easy to do it right and it needs to be packed with content no matter what the roster looks like. Not many companies can afford that kind of investment and the failures of those who have attempted before are enough to frighten them off. Also Kamiya will say mean things about your clone on twitter.

I think starting like Smash 64 with a 12 character roster would be fine for a first iteration. It doesn't have to be completely packed with content as long as its not a full priced title. Of course it should have some crazy stages and items, 3P & 4P modes, and if its a crossover it should have trophies or a equivalent.

It just seems like noone wants to develop a game like Smash which is a real shame. Personally when it comes to an Indie crossover, with their experience in fighting games, them being indie, and already having a crossover with other indies, I feel the Skullgirls developer would've been the best bet to make one popular but they moved on to Indivisible so it was not meant to be. Oh well...

 

[hiska-kun]

That sounds like a larger restock than the last few weeks.

I don't know. Depending on the size of the store, they receive more or less stock. Bic Camera in Yurakucho is a large shop so probably they got a big amount.
It's difficult to tell without knowing how many units they had for last weekend lottery.

 

[Cerium]

I think starting like Smash 64 with a 12 character roster would be fine for a first iteration. It doesn't have to be completely packed with content as long as its not a full priced title. Of course it should have some crazy stages and items, 3P & 4P modes, and if its a crossover it should have trophies or a equivalent.

It just seems like noone wants to develop a game like Smash which is a real shame. Personally when it comes to an Indie crossover, with their experience in fighting games, them being indie, and already having a crossover with other indies, I feel the Skullgirls developer would've been the best bet to make one popular but they moved on to Indivisible so it was not meant to be. Oh well...

You're describing a game that would be lucky to sell six digits.

 

[WiiRevolution1]

You're describing a game that would be lucky to sell six digits.

lol sure.

Until someone actually tries to create a worthy Smash game we will never know for sure but I feel like it'd be fairly big deal.

 

[Cerium]

lol sure.

Until someone actually tries to create a worthy Smash game we will never know for sure but I feel like it'd be fairly big deal.

Any example that fails to sell will be written off as an "unworthy" Smash game. No true Scotsman.

 

[Fisico]

There's been plenty of anime cross over fighters with smash gameplay , one even sold 460k on the DS in Japan (this was the shounen jump one)..

If t you mean Jump Ultimate Stars it's closer to 800k then.

 

[ggx2ac]

I can't be bothered making a new thread for this seeing as most mobile game threads don't get much attention.

http://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Trends/Vietnam-s-mobile-game-market-attracts-Japanese-players

Basically, Japanese mobile game companies are lured by the possibility that revenue projections for mobile games in Vietnam will EXPLODE over several years leading to a market that's worth 20 Trillion Dong ($880 million)

Japanese company KDDI is one of the first companies to want to capitalise on this:

In December, KDDI teamed up with MobiFone Telecom, Vietnam's second-largest wireless service provider with 34.6 million customers. The Japanese telecom giant plans to sell mobile games through a system similar to its au Smart Pass service in Japan, which allows people to buy games, movies and music using a special app.

Initially, KDDI will focus on selling Vietnamese entertainment, but may offer Japanese content after monitoring user trends.

Fuji Technology is also making efforts to expand into Vietnam with localisation efforts:

Fuji Technology, a Hanoi-based Japanese IT company, kicked off its game download service late last year with "Ren Q Bu!," a wildly popular Japanese dating simulation game. On June 27, the company plans to release a Vietnamese version of the Japanese role-playing game, "Re:Monster."

Game downloads from Fuji Technology are free, but certain items will carry a price tag. The company is targeting more than 500,000 game downloads.

To reduce development costs, Fuji Technology is localizing Japanese games for the Vietnamese market. As the number of Vietnamese entering Japan grows, the company is betting that interest in Japanese games will also grow.

There are over 150 mobile games in Vietnam:

The popularity of mobile games began to skyrocket in Vietnam around 2016. According to one estimate, there are now more than 150 mobile games available. Some have turned out to be a massive hits, including "Vo Lam Truyen Ky," a role-playing game in which historical heroes fight each other, and "MU Origin," a game that pits users against monsters. The two have been downloaded hundreds of thousands of times.

Factors affecting the growth in mobile game revenue is the availability​ of 4G Wireless Internet:

Vietnam's poor wireless communications will see dramatic improvements this year as fourth-generation mobile technology is introduced to large swaths of the country, giving the mobile game market a boost.

 

[Mr. Pointy]

That's a lot of dong.

 

[Oregano]

#
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[ggx2ac]

#
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I could've used that as the thread title:

Vietnamese Mobile Games Market Expected to Expand Dong by 20 Trillion

 

[casiopao]

So they are going to use Vietnam as the basis to expand their mobile market?

I remember Sega's Hortensia Saga being released exclusively on SEA region and it flopped and close down less than a year lol.

 

[Passose]

So they are going to use Vietnam as the basis to expand their mobile market?

I remember Sega's Hortensia Saga being released exclusively on SEA region and it flopped and close down less than a year lol.

Japan mobile games are insanely popular in my country though, didn't surprise after seeing that tbh

 

[SporeCrawler]

lol sure.

Until someone actually tries to create a worthy Smash game we will never know for sure but I feel like it'd be fairly big deal.

well there was playstation all stars and that konami smash game (and to a much lesser extend dissidia)... also jump ultimate stars and jump super stars which were both incredible games

 

[ash321]

Jesus that piece of shit "Vo lam truyen ki" still alive and making money, how ?

Also, if you want a your game to success in VietNam, put a sexy anime girl in front of the cover, you will make millions (dong).

 

[Vic]

People lining up for a DOA console...smh.

Why this made me laugh...

 

[Aters]

There's been plenty of anime cross over fighters with smash gameplay , one even sold 460k on the DS in Japan (this was the shounen jump one)..

because those games are not as good as Smash. What's the MC score of those games?

 

[Passose]

Jesus that piece of shit "Vo lam truyen ki" still alive and making money, how ?

Also, if you want a your game to success in VietNam, put a sexy anime girl in front of the cover, you will make millions (dong).

it's still alive because of there are many people still playing it, easy peasy

Japan prefers Marvel superheroes.

really?

 

[Skullwaker]

You literally said "the roster is the whole appeal", which is why I quoted you. Denying the influence of the roster would be silly.

The person I was replying to was literally denying the influence of the roster. Hence my hyperbole of "The roster is the whole appeal."

I don't believe Smash would be as successful without its characters. It's a fantastic game all around, but the core concept revolves around Nintendo characters beating each other up. And that's why it's been insanely popular since the start (and it's only gotten better in terms of gameplay).

 

[Aters]

The person I was replying to was literally denying the influence of the roster. Hence my hyperbole of "The roster is the whole appeal."

I don't believe Smash would be as successful without its characters. It's a fantastic game all around, but the core concept revolves around Nintendo characters beating each other up. And that's why it's been insanely popular since the start (and it's only gotten better in terms of gameplay).

I didn't deny the influence of the roster. I did ask for evidence for the extend to which the roster pushes sale. There are fighting games with great roster (MvC) in the west and they don't sell as well as Smash. There are Smash-like games in Japan that feature popular anime/manga characters and they also don't sell as well as Smash. I just want to give good game design credit when credit is due. Smash came out as the huge critical and commercial hit. Do you think all those MC scores are only for the roster?

 

[Skullwaker]

I didn't deny the influence of the roster. I did ask for evidence for the extend to which the roster pushes sale. There are fighting games with great roster (MvC) in the west and they don't sell as well as Smash. There are Smash-like games in Japan that feature popular anime/manga characters and they also don't sell as well as Smash. I just want to give good game design credit when credit is due. Smash came out as the huge critical and commercial hit. Do you think all those MC scores are only for the roster?

I already said the gameplay is fantastic and another reason why it's so popular.

And I also already said that other crossover games (whether high qualify or not) haven't sold as well because their rosters don't have the same appeal. In regards to MvC, it's successful but I believe there are a couple reasons why it isn't as big as Smash. It likely doesn't appeal to casual players as much as Smash does (yes, Smash also appeals to competitive players, the fact that it does both greatly contributes to its success). And secondly, its roster doesn't have quite the renown that Smash's does in the video game realm. Obviously Marvel characters are huge, but in video games they've never been on the level of characters like Mario. Capcom's side is definitely more catered to the video game audience, but again, characters like Mega Man or Chris Redfield aren't on the level of Pikachu or Link. It's just targeting a more niche audience than Smash does. And the same goes for the anime/manga fighters.

Edit: Also, it can be said that fans of Capcom may not be fans of Marvel, and vice versa. Whereas Smash crosses over a huge amount of franchises, so even if someone doesn't like Pikmin or Metroid, for example, that won't hinder their experience of the game because that only amounts to a few characters in a huge pool.

 

[Waji]

I've got bad news for you. Disgaea 5 I am Setsuna and Dragon Quest Heroes I & II late ports for Switch didn't seem to bring a lot of new people either. ((

From what I've seen they did ok if not good. Even better if you don't count only Japan.

What numbers are you comparing it to then?

I'm talking quality with my last sentence (former glory) not numbers.
I know Falcom never had the biggest hits, but I'm sad to see the worst games doing the best sales.

 

[Chris1964]

Week 23, 2017 (Jun 5 - Jun 11)

new releases

{2017.06.07}
[3DS] Geki Yaba Runner Habanero _3DS Download Software_ |DL| <ACT> (Flyhigh Works) (¥462)
[PSV] Nep-Nep Connect: Chaos Chanpuru _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <TBL> (Compile Heart) (¥0)

{2017.06.08}
[PSV] Shiro to Kuro no Alice # <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥6.300)
[PSV] Shiro to Kuro no Alice (Limited Edition) <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥8.300)
[PSV] Shiro to Kuro no Alice (&#949 _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥5.800)
[NSW] Human Resource Machine _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <PZL> (Flyhigh Works) (¥925)
[PS4] The Sexy Brutale _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Nippon Ichi Software) (¥2.000)
[PS4] Arcade Archives: Thunder Cross _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <STG> (Hamster) (¥762)
___

YSO predictions
01. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe < 20k
02. [PS4] Tekken 7 < 15k
03. < 10K

 

[saichi]

^ dark age before ARMS

 

[hiska-kun]

Only more lotteries can save us.

 

[Calm Mind]

^ dark age before ARMS

Dim Switch is dim.

 

[Principate]

Week 23, 2017 (Jun 5 - Jun 11)

new releases

{2017.06.07}
[3DS] Geki Yaba Runner Habanero _3DS Download Software_ |DL| <ACT> (Flyhigh Works) (¥462)
[PSV] Nep-Nep Connect: Chaos Chanpuru _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <TBL> (Compile Heart) (¥0)

{2017.06.08}
[PSV] Shiro to Kuro no Alice # <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥6.300)
[PSV] Shiro to Kuro no Alice (Limited Edition) <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥8.300)
[PSV] Shiro to Kuro no Alice (&#949 _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥5.800)
[NSW] Human Resource Machine _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <PZL> (Flyhigh Works) (¥925)
[PS4] The Sexy Brutale _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Nippon Ichi Software) (¥2.000)
[PS4] Arcade Archives: Thunder Cross _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <STG> (Hamster) (¥762)
___

YSO predictions
01. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe < 20k
02. [PS4] Tekken 7 < 15k
03. < 10K

Jesus at that Tekken 7 prediction.

 

[test_account]

Jesus at that Tekken 7 prediction.

First week prediction average was 65k. That would mean a drop around 75-80%. Doesnt seem to be too much out of the ordinary i think.

 

[Passose]

Week 23, 2017 (Jun 5 - Jun 11)

new releases

{2017.06.07}
[3DS] Geki Yaba Runner Habanero _3DS Download Software_ |DL| <ACT> (Flyhigh Works) (¥462)
[PSV] Nep-Nep Connect: Chaos Chanpuru _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <TBL> (Compile Heart) (¥0)

{2017.06.08}
[PSV] Shiro to Kuro no Alice # <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥6.300)
[PSV] Shiro to Kuro no Alice (Limited Edition) <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥8.300)
[PSV] Shiro to Kuro no Alice (&#949 _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥5.800)
[NSW] Human Resource Machine _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <PZL> (Flyhigh Works) (¥925)
[PS4] The Sexy Brutale _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Nippon Ichi Software) (¥2.000)
[PS4] Arcade Archives: Thunder Cross _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <STG> (Hamster) (¥762)
___

YSO predictions
01. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe < 20k
02. [PS4] Tekken 7 < 15k
03. < 10K

15k..................

 

[Eolz]

First week prediction average was 65k. That would mean a drop around 75-80%. Doesnt seem to be too much out of the ordinary i think.

This.
I think some think this is the first week prediction lol.

 

[test_account]

This.
I think some think this is the first week prediction lol.

Thats possible

 

[Ōkami]

1. [PS4] Tekken 7 - 132
2. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission X - 52
3. [SWI] Seiken Densetsu Collection - 28
4. [SWI] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 24
5. [3DS] Monster Hunter XX - 23
6. [PSV] Shiin - 22
7. [PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana - 13
8. [PS4] Sengoku Basara: Sanada Yukimura-Den - 10
9. [PS4] Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Siege - 8
10. [3DS] Miitopia - 8
11. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts HD I.5 + II.5 ReMIX - 6
12. [PS4] Grand Theft Auto V [New Price Edition] - 6
13. [SWI] Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers - 6
14. [SWI] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 6
15. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 - 6
16. [PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition - 5
17. [3DS] Pro Baseball Famista Climax - 5
18. [PSV] end Sleep - 4
19. [PS4] Super Robot Wars V (Premium Anime Song & Sound Edition) - 4
20. [3DS] Puyo Puyo Chronicle - 4

Preorders
[SWI] Splatoon 2 - 579
[PS4] Dragon Quest XI: In Search of Departed Time - 329
[3DS] Dragon Quest XI: In Search of Departed Time - 304
[PS4] Gran Turismo Sport - 75
[PS4] Gundam Versus - 74
[SWI] Arms - 32
[PS4] Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age - 25
[PS4] Nights of Azure 2 - 23
[PSV] Nights of Azure 2 - 23
[3DS] The Alliance Alive - 21
[3DS] Etrian Mystery Dungeon 2 - 20
[3DS] Radiant Historia: Perfect Chronology - 20
[PS4] Farpoint - 16
[PS4] New Hot Shots Golf - 14
[3DS] The Great Ace Attorney 2 - 13
[PS4] Final Fantasy XIV: Stormblood - 9

 

[thestopsign]

Last week for comparison:

1. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission X - 40
2. [SWI] Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers - 30
3. [SWI] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 28
4. [PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana - 25
5. [PS4] Guilty Gear Xrd REV 2 - 16
6. [PS4] Horizon: Zero Dawn - 11
7. [PS4] The Last Guardian - 10
8. [3DS] Monster Hunter XX - 10
9. [PS4] Yakuza 6: The Song of Life - 8
10. [PS4] Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare - 8
11. [PS4] Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Siege - 7
12. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - Welcome amiibo - 7
13. [3DS] Digimon Universe: Appli Monsters - 7
14. [PSV] Love of Ren'ai Koutei of LOVE! - 6
15. [PS4] Resident Evil 7: biohazard (Grotesque Ver.) - 6
16. [SWI] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 6
17. [3DS] Puyo Puyo Chronicle - 6
18. [3DS] Mario Sports Superstars - 6
19. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sukiyaki - 6
20. [WIU] Minecraft: Wii U Edition - 5

Preorders
[SWI] Splatoon 2 - 486
[PS4] Dragon Quest XI: In Search of Departed Time - 298
[3DS] Dragon Quest XI: In Search of Departed Time - 288
[PS4] Gran Turismo Sport - 85
[PS4] Tekken 7 - 66
[PS4] Gundam Versus - 66
[SWI] Arms - 27
[PS4] Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age - 25
[PS4] Nights of Azure 2 - 23
[PSV] Nights of Azure 2 - 22
[3DS] The Alliance Alive - 19
[3DS] Etrian Mystery Dungeon 2 - 17
[SWI] Seiken Densetsu Collection - 15
[PS4] Farpoint - 12
[3DS] The Great Ace Attorney 2 - 12
[3DS] Radiant Historia: Perfect Chronology - 10
[PS4] New Everybody's Golf - 10

 

[Scum]

Splat2n > Switch

 

[schuelma]

Switch owners at comgnet are too busy preordering Splatoon 2 to look at ARMS or Monster Hunter.

 

[horuhe]

Rakuten Books Sales Ranking Week 22, 2017 (May 29 - Jun 04)

01./00. [PS4] Tekken 7 <FTG> (Bandai Namco)
02./01. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo)
03./00. [NSW] Seiken Densetsu Collection <RPG> (Square Enix)
04./03. [3DS] Monster Hunter Double Cross <ACT> (Capcom)
05./04. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
06./02. [PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana <RPG> (Nihon Falcom)
07./07. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission X <ADV> (Bandai Namco)
08./08. [PS4] NieR: Automata <RPG> (Square Enix)
09./10. [3DS] Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia <SLG> (Nintendo)
10./00. [PSV] Shiin <ADV> (Sony Interactive)
11./05. [NSW] Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers <FTG> (Capcom)
12./00. [PS4] Tales of Berseria [Welcome Price!!] <RPG> (Bandai Namco)
13./14. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - Welcome amiibo <ETC> (Nintendo)
14./18. [3DS] Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS <ACT> (Nintendo)
15./21. [NSW] 1-2-Switch <ETC> (Nintendo)
16./00. [3DS] Tales of the Abyss [Welcome Price!!] <RPG> (Bandai Namco)
17./09. [WiiU] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
18./13. [PS4] Grand Theft Auto V [New Price Edition] <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive)
19./12. [PS4] Dark Souls III: The Fire Fades Edition <RPG> (From Software)
20./19. [PS4] Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Siege <ACT> (Ubisoft)

Rakuten Books Pre-Orders Ranking Week 22, 2017 (May 29 - Jun 04)

01./01. [PS4] Dragon Quest XI: In Search of Departed Time <RPG> (Square Enix)
02./03. [NSW] Splatoon 2 <ACT> (Nintendo)
03./02. [3DS] Dragon Quest XI: In Search of Departed Time <RPG> (Square Enix)
04./00. [NSW] Monster Hunter Double Cross <ACT> (Capcom)
05./05. [NSW] ARMS <ACT> (Nintendo)
06./11. [3DS] Layton’s Mystery Journey: Katrielle and The Millionaires’ Conspiracy <ADV> (Level 5)
07./07. [PS4] Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age <RPG> (Square Enix)
08./06. [PS4] Gundam Versus: Premium G (Sound Edition) <ACT> (Bandai Namco)
09./12. [3DS] The Great Ace Attorney 2: The Resolve of Ry&#363;nosuke Naruhod&#333; <ADV> (Capcom)
10./09. [3DS] Radiant Historia: Perfect Chronology <RPG> (Atlus)

Rakuten Books Ranking Week 21, 2017 (May 22 - May 28)

***WARNING***

* Note: Games on the Rakuten Books Rankings are ONLY based on sales at Rakuten Books and does NOT count games sold by other retailers at Rakuten.
** Note 2: Games on the Pre-Orders Ranking are counted as net sales, so it might possibly affect the games listed on the Sales Ranking, since those sales are NOT added afterwards.

 

[Sandfox]

First week prediction average was 65k. That would mean a drop around 75-80%. Doesnt seem to be too much out of the ordinary i think.

That's still pretty sad for Tekken.

 

[sinonobu]

Isn't MHXX Switch gameplay being shown off at Capcom TV today?

 

[thestopsign]

Looks like the Seiken Densetsu Collection should be in that 15-20k range Street Fighter was in last week.

 

[neohwa]

04./00. [PS4] Street Fighter V # <FTG> (Capcom) {2016.02.18} (¥7.990) - 41.990 / NEW

YSO predictions
02. [PS4] Tekken 7 < 15k

hmm fighting games doesn't seem so hot. I predict Tekken 7 50k and Arms 35k first week.

 

[AdventureRacing]

Week 23, 2017 (Jun 5 - Jun 11)

new releases

{2017.06.07}
[3DS] Geki Yaba Runner Habanero _3DS Download Software_ |DL| <ACT> (Flyhigh Works) (¥462)
[PSV] Nep-Nep Connect: Chaos Chanpuru _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <TBL> (Compile Heart) (¥0)

{2017.06.08}
[PSV] Shiro to Kuro no Alice # <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥6.300)
[PSV] Shiro to Kuro no Alice (Limited Edition) <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥8.300)
[PSV] Shiro to Kuro no Alice (&#949 _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥5.800)
[NSW] Human Resource Machine _Nintendo Switch Download Software_ |DL| <PZL> (Flyhigh Works) (¥925)
[PS4] The Sexy Brutale _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Nippon Ichi Software) (¥2.000)
[PS4] Arcade Archives: Thunder Cross _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <STG> (Hamster) (¥762)
___

YSO predictions
01. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe < 20k
02. [PS4] Tekken 7 < 15k
03. < 10K

So it looks likely that the switch will stay in the 20-30K range for a little bit longer.

04./00. [PS4] Street Fighter V # <FTG> (Capcom) {2016.02.18} (¥7.990) - 41.990 / NEW

YSO predictions
02. [PS4] Tekken 7 < 15k

hmm fighting games doesn't seem so hot. I predict Tekken 7 50k and Arms 35k first week.

That would be a shockingly bad performance by arms even if it is more targeted at the western market.

 

[Nirolak]

I could see ARMS tanking in Japan. In the West you still have things like Mortal Kombat and For Honor doing very well, suggesting underperformances are driven by products instead of genre disinterest.

We don't have as strong an argument for that in Japan with Smash and one of the Persona fighters being the only bigger performers (barring me forgetting something), and the latter wasn't doing the domestic equivalent of a 5+ million copy game overseas.

 

[ggx2ac]

Cross-post.

Update:

The Japanese ARMS commercial has 487k views.

The US ARMS commercial has 178k views.

The US ARMS commercial is 3 days older but the Japanese commercial is overwhelmingly popular.

 

[noshten]

04./00. [PS4] Street Fighter V # <FTG> (Capcom) {2016.02.18} (¥7.990) - 41.990 / NEW

YSO predictions
02. [PS4] Tekken 7 < 15k

hmm fighting games doesn't seem so hot. I predict Tekken 7 50k and Arms 35k first week.

Since you seem to think Switch is tracking behind the Wii U this prediction is not very surprising

 

[Nirolak]

Cross-post.

Update:

The Japanese ARMS commercial has 487k views.

The US ARMS commercial has 178k views.

The US ARMS commercial is 3 days older but the Japanese commercial is overwhelmingly popular.

It's also plausible that the type of people who might want to buy ARMS aren't the preorder audience (that usually suggests younger or less hardcore gamers) or that they just don't shop at COMG.

I guess they could also be buying digitally, since it's a smaller game file size wise, but I'd be surprised if that exceeds 20%.

Or the audience for the game could just be unable to purchase a Switch.

That said, I'm expecting the game to succeed as a multimillion unit title worldwide, at least eventually, regardless of how it does in Japan.

 

[ggx2ac]

It's also plausible that the type of people who might want to buy ARMS aren't the preorder audience (that usually suggests younger or less hardcore gamers) or that they just don't shop at COMG.

I guess they could also be buying digitally, since it's a smaller game file size wise, but I'd be surprised if that exceeds 20%.

Or the audience for the game could just be unable to purchase a Switch.

That said, I'm expecting the game to succeed as a multimillion unit title worldwide, at least eventually, regardless of how it does in Japan.

The views of the YouTube video are most likely proportioned by overseas viewers.

The game could have lower preorder numbers due to difficulties in acquiring a Switch in the first place.

I guess we'll find out by launch. I also predict that it could be a multimillion seller by the end of Nintendo's financial year.

 

[Passose]

The views of the YouTube video are most likely proportioned by overseas viewers.

The game could have lower preorder numbers due to difficulties in acquiring a Switch in the first place.

I guess we'll find out by launch. I also predict that it could be a multimillion seller by the end of Nintendo's financial year.

yeah, I think it will be a multi million seller, the game really has potential

 

[Vena]

I could see ARMS tanking in Japan. In the West you still have things like Mortal Kombat and For Honor doing very well, suggesting underperformances are driven by products instead of genre disinterest.

We don't have as strong an argument for that in Japan with Smash and one of the Persona fighters being the only bigger performers (barring me forgetting something), and the latter wasn't doing the domestic equivalent of a 5+ million copy game overseas.

I feel like pedigree and a tad of curiosity/gimmick-novelty alone will prop up ARMS. Unlike most traditional fighters, there's a very easy splashdown point for younger audiences or parents or just more casual players to go in and "flail" or the less competitive modes like basketball and volleyball, there's enough meat to the bone for more than just the usual fighter demographics (even though the game itself does come off as a thin around the core with its more straightforward single-player offerings).

Here I am speaking strictly for Japan, in the west this will still be a factor but as you say fighters in general are trending on healthier numbers.

I don't think its going to go gangbusters out of the door if even ever, but the team pedigree will beget a pretty healthy marketing budget which should keep it from "bomb" territory just on sheer exposure-v-probability of sales conversion.

I suspect, westwardly speaking, that ARMS will see some knocks on it from the thinner single-player offering, especially when compared to peers like Injustice 2 or MKXL. Certainly, it will probably look good compared to SFV but then a polished slab of metal would also look good compared to SFV.

 

[Totakeke]

For what it's worth, there's a lot of Japanese players playing the testpunch. I had to try several times to find a lobby without more than half of the players being Japanese his morning. So they're not necessary more or less interested in the game than western audiences.

 

[Principate]

The views of the YouTube video are most likely proportioned by overseas viewers.

The game could have lower preorder numbers due to difficulties in acquiring a Switch in the first place.

I guess we'll find out by launch. I also predict that it could be a multimillion seller by the end of Nintendo's financial year.

While true what is the chance someone will have seen the Japanese trailer but not the u.s. one if they're an overseas viewer. If you were to remove the entire US trailers total form the Japanese ons you still have a large number of viewers left.