Jive Turkey
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GOP strategists plot anti-media strategy for 2018 elections
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Is it, though?
Lightning_Roller
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Fuck the GOP and the people who support them.
actually that doesnt sound like real talk, more like bullshit.
I'm only vaguely aware of how that works in the US. I'm Canadian, it's SUPER easy to vote over here. I'm aware of the gerry mandering shenanigans, but not sure what the issues are with voter ID.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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nintendoman58
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Didn't major outlets block an ad saying that various outlets were FAKE NEWS that the Trump and the right went nuts about?
He kinda has a point though?
It's one thing to be concerned about this but the amount of hysteria in these threads, quite frankly gets so absurd that it ends up being counter-productive.
He kinda has a point though?
It's one thing to be concerned about this but the amount of hysteria in these threads, quite frankly gets so absurd that it ends up being counter-productive.
I only remember Trump freaking out about CNN not airing an ad that said they were fake news.
If you decide to take that literally, sure. Your choice though.
Problem there was he did that after early voting. Record numbers of people called in asking to change their votes the day after.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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The idea behind Voter IDs is to make it tougher for people (usually groups more likely to vote democrat etc. minorities) to be able to vote under the guise of combating an imagined epidemic of voter fraud.
sturgboski
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If the god damn media normalizes this like they did all last year with Trump I am going to be super upset. Last year they considered Trump a joke for too long and still try to play the whole "both sides" thing at times. Enough is fucking enough. If the GOP goes this route, everything that isnt Fox News, Breitbart and that ilk better be going fucking hard on the GOP. Fuck it, go further and be propaganda for the Dems as well.
Voter ID laws are in place because minorities are statistically less likely to have specific forms of ID, which helps republicans.
Yoshimitsu126
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I think GOP drawing attention to midterms will actually cause them to lose ironically.
I'm guessing then that this means having a driver's license, passport or just about any other form of government issue photo ID isn't enough to get you into a voting booth.
Not really. When Sean spicer came out and declared the crowd to be the biggest ever, that was shocking and scary to me and a lot of others. It is so much worse than that now, with the actual president attacking freedom of speech and facts. All it shows is how far we have regressed.
Escape Goat
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I don't think painting the media as the bogeyman is going to work nearly as well as it did with Killary. She's not on the ballot and neither is the media.
Jesus Christ some of you give up easily. This defeatist attitude some folks on the left have is just as toxic as anything the GOP is guilty of, because all you're doing is helping them.
"That's right liberals, there is no hope. Just stay home for midterms because you can't win no matter what."
That's cool. Sow that distrust in the foundation of our democracy until we bypass dysfunctional and become fully and irrevocably nonfunctional.
The GOP is a fast becoming a real cancer to this nation, and if they aren't excised soon, they're going to kill us. That's not hyperbole either.
The GOP is a fast becoming a real cancer to this nation, and if they aren't excised soon, they're going to kill us. That's not hyperbole either.
Yeesh, you sound like all it takes is a stiff breeze to shatter your faith in the system.
SoRuffShoNuff
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Winning elections is what politics is all about and unfortunately for us the Republicans are pretty damn good at it. Democrats need to figure something out, and if it isn't 100% clean and kosher the liberals need to STFU and let them try and win.
theignoramus
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GOP is well on the way to becoming a straight up fascist party. Theyre not quite there yet, but theyre walking down that path.
smokeandmirrors
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Before? they already exist
Holy Order Sol
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criminal organizations disguised as political parties ayy
In an increasingly connected world, fighting endless wars with the news media is just a way of creating distracting bouts with the public and giving yourself the perception of always being embattled.
Once Republicans from contested districts start challenging Trump in the lead up to midterms, I think we'll see many of them put on a friendlier face to the media. With Democrats making huge gains thus far in special elections, it isn't really a viable strategy to start targeting the media when they need that air time to promote their policies.
I think this strategy works for Trump because he's a cult of personality but for anyone less well known than him it becomes a messaging liability.
#hottake
Once Republicans from contested districts start challenging Trump in the lead up to midterms, I think we'll see many of them put on a friendlier face to the media. With Democrats making huge gains thus far in special elections, it isn't really a viable strategy to start targeting the media when they need that air time to promote their policies.
I think this strategy works for Trump because he's a cult of personality but for anyone less well known than him it becomes a messaging liability.
#hottake
old manatee
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I feel like that has been their strategy since Rush Limbaugh took off in the 80's.
If it actually does end up devolving that way, that's going to be quite harmful for white people in America, given enough time to proliferate. If you start identifying political affiliation, sexual orientation, religion and xenophobia all into race, then this puts white people in America down a dark path.
Given enough time you're just assumed to be a racist, intolerant, violently hateful homophobe as a matter of birth. Even if you're NOT this, if someone who is this sees you, they walk up to you, clap you on the back thinking 'you're one of them," and start hurling racial slurs because "You're white. You must be Republican."
That's a slippery slope to go down.
kitsunelaine
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They should just rename themselves the "I Reject Your Reality And Substitute My Own" party.
exmachina64
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In Alabama, it meant reducing the number of DMV locations in black majority areas in order to increase the distance one would need to travel. In some cases, counties would have no DMV locations.
This is deeply upsetting. I'm not sure it will even work, but the GOP being willing to make this jump is another step on their continued path of extremism.
I fear it's only gonna get worse from here on out as the demographics continue to slip from their fingers. If they continue this path instead of moderating their positions, radicalizing their base is gonna be their only path to victory, at least on the federal stage.
I fear it's only gonna get worse from here on out as the demographics continue to slip from their fingers. If they continue this path instead of moderating their positions, radicalizing their base is gonna be their only path to victory, at least on the federal stage.
This type of strategy is unsettling for sure, and illustrates one way how far gone the party is.
But Independents and moderate Republicans who voted for Trump aren't blaming the press for the GOP's agenda stalls/failures. They're not blaming CNN for the lack of health care reform.
And from Quinnipiac in May: https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2456
But Independents and moderate Republicans who voted for Trump aren't blaming the press for the GOP's agenda stalls/failures. They're not blaming CNN for the lack of health care reform.
And from Quinnipiac in May: https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2456
Right now trump has the infinity time stone and has been late to work all week.
uncelestial
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Do you really think tens of millions of people WON'T turn on the media if one of the two mainstream parties in this country -- in particular, the one that currently controls most of our government at both the federal and state levels -- makes it their mission to paint the media as the enemy? Is that really your theory right now?
Yes. I've been hearing republicans blame the "liberal" media since the 80s. It's why Fox News came into existence.
Openly admitting it's their strategy to cover for their failures is new, though.
Progress?
Imperfected
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It's just the way human psychology works, especially in herd behavior.
The knife cuts both ways: the recent upturn of the Democratic party is pretty clearly being rallied against common enemies (the Trump-Putin Power Hour), for example; yes, issues of policy also matter, and so do personal ethos and performance records, but nothing energizes a movement quite like a villain.
The problem is that Trump has elevated himself to an almost cartoonish status as a villain for the left, and the best they have to offer is "Maybe the media's kind of rude?" to try and create a boogeyman for the right.
I haven't seen a positive story about the GOP from anywhere that isn't Fox, et al. since the election. The only negative coverage the Democrats have gotten has been when they endorsed a pro-life member, whenever Hillary talks about the election, Obama's speech, and when Ellison lost the race for chair of the DNC. Otherwise, it is a constant (and well deserved) stream of bad news for anyone with an R next to their name.
In Wisconsin it meant that a Hunting License without a picture was an acceptable form of ID, but a Student ID from a college was not.
RedAssedApe
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time to start releasing every piece of dirt you can find on these candidates house of cards style
Muppet of a Man
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Too late. See white evangelicals.
hopefully the increasing organization wrt fact-checking that we're seeing among several prominent online sources will be in full swing by then. It would be nice to have some immediate smack-downs for these state-level lie-fests ready at every stage of the political conversation.
Just call them the FYGM (Fuck You, Got Mine) Party
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