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Nintendo Spotlight Presentation (their E3 conference) to be 30 Minutes in length
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Skittzo0413
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They have said absolutely nothing of this sort. The online enhanced classic games selection is 100% separate from the VC.
I'm pretty sure she has, saw it earlier in the thread.
Okami Haundo
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As others have noted, 30 minutes seems like plenty of time if the pacing is similar to that Splatoon 2/ARMS Direct. I don't think they'll use the spotlight to focus on any one title for more than a few minutes at a time.
In that regard, I'm really glad that they have the Treehouse live streams as a regular thing now. I still have nightmares about that Wii-U conference where they spent 5+ minutes explaining how the Luigi's Mansion mini-game in Nintendoland worked...
In that regard, I'm really glad that they have the Treehouse live streams as a regular thing now. I still have nightmares about that Wii-U conference where they spent 5+ minutes explaining how the Luigi's Mansion mini-game in Nintendoland worked...
Kikorin
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Pretty sure the new Mario will be enough to take a lot of E3 attention this year, they don't have to reveal things that will not be out until 2 or 3 years after the presentation.
They had to do this with Zelda only because have to try to save the Wii U, but Switch is already sold out everywhere and they have an incredibile line-up from now to the end of the year.
TwilightPrincess
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Nothing is worth sacrificing the successor to one of the best RPGs ever made. Playing Xenoblade 1 again at the moment, terrible 480p on my 4k TV and it beats the shit out of every PS4 JRPG I own ( I don't count Persona 5 for it's too different).
Skittzo0413
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I have nightmares where I'm chased by balls of yarn through Japanese shrines for hours on end... *shudder*
Psycho_Mantis
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Its more worrying that Nintendo chose to focus on 2017 games, a lineup that has pretty much all been announced since a while ago. E3 is meant to give an insight to the future of a platform and at the very least makes announcements for games coming next year. For Nintendo's sake, I hope they try and do some of that.
Skittzo0413
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Again, going by the wording in the PR, we're almost guaranteed to see some 2018 games revealed. I'd bet on 2-3 of them, launching in early 2018 before that year's E3. Remember, that Direct "focused" on ARMS and Splatoon 2 also discussed over a dozen other games, just like this Spotlight "focused" on 2017 games will discuss some 2018 games.
And what makes you think we know the entire 2017 lineup? They could certainly be announcing several new 2017 games. In fact I'd be surprised if they don't announce at least 3-4 new, previously unheard of 2017 games. Not that they have to be big/important games, but I still expect some.
E3 is a gaming trade show. There's no rules on what you have to show.
Bobo Dakes
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Um ... not really. Companies can show whatever they want coming out whenever. We've barely seen anything of the post summer 2017 releases. They'll probably show more of the late 2017 games and give us the briefest look at 1-2 (early-mid) 2018 games.
I loved the last 3 Sony conferences, but those games still aren't coming out anytime soon, they can't keep pulling the same trick.
Okami Haundo
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If E3 was literally the only way to get press coverage for stuff like that, I'd agree with you. However, we have multiple other trade shows throughout the year and Nintendo also does random Nintendo Directs in between. They don't need to show us their entire 2018 plan at E3. They also never said that 2018 games are completely off the table. Chill man.
Have fun with your overdesigned, crotchless pants wearing main character.
OrbitalBeard
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Nah, there's really nothing worrying about this whatsoever, outside of possible disappointment for some fans and ammo for fanboys. This strategy will not actually harm Nintendo or the Switch in any meaningful way.
Didn't some at Nintendo hint at more Switch titles being revealed at E3 earlier this year?
Following the Pokemon news yesterday I do have some concerns about how the presentation will pan out with 30 minutes. They hyped up that event as being 'big' for Pokemon.
I hope Mario is only shown 5-10 minutes at the most, since they are emphasising this as their big holiday title.
Ideally i do suspect at the possibility of seeing Retro's new title - as many have suggested it's been quite a long time since we've heard what they're working on.
Definitely expecting coverage on Xenoblade 2, Mario/Rabbids and Fire Emblem Warriors.
If Nintendo really want to show Arms/Splatoon 2/Pokken DX then keep it to a minimum or part of a showreel. Don't want them to take up much space in the presentation.Two tournaments and trailers should be enough to show them off by now.
If we see more then I'm expecting a new title or two. Ideally Smash Switch DX and a new Metroid. Really craving for a pure exploration based game after BoTW.
Either that or maybe a game reveal from Platinum.
Following the Pokemon news yesterday I do have some concerns about how the presentation will pan out with 30 minutes. They hyped up that event as being 'big' for Pokemon.
I hope Mario is only shown 5-10 minutes at the most, since they are emphasising this as their big holiday title.
Ideally i do suspect at the possibility of seeing Retro's new title - as many have suggested it's been quite a long time since we've heard what they're working on.
Definitely expecting coverage on Xenoblade 2, Mario/Rabbids and Fire Emblem Warriors.
If Nintendo really want to show Arms/Splatoon 2/Pokken DX then keep it to a minimum or part of a showreel. Don't want them to take up much space in the presentation.Two tournaments and trailers should be enough to show them off by now.
If we see more then I'm expecting a new title or two. Ideally Smash Switch DX and a new Metroid. Really craving for a pure exploration based game after BoTW.
Either that or maybe a game reveal from Platinum.
Joelstinton14
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It is a difficult balance to achieve - Sony has deservedly taken the plaudits for the best shows in recent years , but the legendary conference of 2015 feels very much like vapourware at this point.
I know Nintendo can be frustrating when it comes to E3, but they tend not to show titles that are years out, only games that at due out within the year, which also means they don't tend to bullshot their games either. They do tend to give an honest account of what is coming. Sometimes that falls flat on its arse (see last year - although what they delivered in showing off Zelda was fantastic), but sometimes it works (2014)
They also have several directs a year where they spread information - again sometimes to their detriment - think it was 2015 where they had a direct not long before E3, E3 was a disaster, but if they combine the two shows it may have been half decent. But overall , across the course of the year we get a lot of information. Sometimes we expect too much.
Sony also has leverage of third party showings as well - 2-3 games they demo onstage are marketing exclusives etc.
So yeah, just sit back and enjoy all three shows from the main guys.
30 minutes, yikes. Can't believe they have that little to show. A disappointment when you consider we they are probably going to show Splatoon and Zelda stuff, along with 3DS things. 
I think the real difference is that there's unlikely to be any meaningful 3rd party games to show.
I think the real difference is that there's unlikely to be any meaningful 3rd party games to show.
Okami Haundo
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I think its worth nothing that Nintendo didn't "hype" that Pokemon Direct any more than they do any other Direct. They announced a date/time that it would air and then showed it to us. The internet and various gaming sites fueled the "OMG it's Pokemon Stars!" hype.
As for the spotlight, I'm hopeful that it'll pretty fast paced with a bunch of games to show. That ARMS/Splatoon 2 Direct showed us a ton of games in 35 minutes!
Most people play games for a lot more reasons than just the design of one character.
Missinformed people from the future have always the best cynical opinions.30 minutes, yikes. Can't believe they have that little to show. A disappointment when you consider we they are probably going to show Splatoon and Zelda stuff, along with 3DS things.
30min can be a long time, if we take the last bigger Nintendo Direct in account, which was very fast paced (I think it was also 30min and everybody was surprised, how many games they showed in that short timeframe).
Second Nintendo already announced, that it will only focus on Switch games, and third there are multiple days of E3. Nintendo always showed a few new games outside the presentation.
So let's all chill out and wait.
Eh I didn't see them hyping it up any more than any other Direct, less than most, and they did announce two new games that will likely sell 5-10 million combined, plus a switch port of Pokken. Just because GAF didn't get what they were hoping for/expecting doesn't mean it wasn't big
Or maybe it will be almost all early 2018 games because they don't have shit for Switch this year.
I mean, we can probably already assume Mario is delayed to Spring and Pokemon USUM and Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga DX will be part of this video.
Edit: nevermind, what do i know
Each Direct has been about 30-40 min in length. Nintendo is not known for subsistence and flash. Remember that all their talk is rehearsed so they'll talk quickly on everything and show off some new games down the pipe, probably a 20-30 sec teaser like usual at the end. Man, GAF, thinks 2 hour conferences should be the norm.
Why?
Are you saying that no 3DS games will be shown? I wasn't aware of that. I mean, we all expect the Switch to be the focus, but I would have guessed that they wouldn't exclude the 3DS completely. I guess I missed that confirmation by the big Nintendo.
And it's not really going out on a limb to say that there will be very few new games shown because that's always been the case and, at 30 minutes, it's not going to change this year. I guess I was hoping for more, including more 3rd party focus, to show that Nintendo is taking a different, more inclusive approach with the Switch.
Satire?
Because 1. The Spotlight is stated to be for Switch only
and 2. We have a Nintendo owned IP a month for the rest of the year on Switch. That's hardly "not having shit for Switch".
Skittzo0413
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The PR and announcements have all said the Spotlight will "take a look at upcoming Switch games" with "a focus on 2017 titles". And then the Treehouse PR says it will talk about Switch and 3DS games.
So I wouldn't say it's 100% confirmed to be Switch only but it's sure looking like it is.
We are a week away from this presentation and GAF is already going crazy. I mean, the sheer amount of overreactions, misinformed nonsense and just good old trolling in this thread is staggering. E3 is truly upon us. Best to stay away from these threads for a couple of days in order to keep my sanity meter in check.
It was 50% longer...how can you say "it is more or less the same"?
It is way less...
is having shorter E3 presentation every year a good thing now?
this is the first Switch E3: 30 minutes long Direct is a hype-killer, even if Direct pace is faster than the live conference one
because we already know that every minute spent on already known games or on VC services or on already/almost available games (such as ARMS, Splatoon or even worst Pokken, being a port of a Wii U game) will completely kill the video perception
Pair this with their "2017 games focus" and honestly it would already be great to see 2 brand new games announced...considering how poor and weak the third party lineup is and probably will continue to be...
I seriously think that this E3 instead of being a good propeller for the console risks to kill its momentum
But before the event we were all having similar discussions due to slots being 30 or 35 minutes or so.
Godzilla's Left Toe
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Umm the 2012 PC was awful.
10 minutes: Mario Odyssey (11/17)
5 minutes: Xenoblade 2
("Look forward to hearing more about Xenoblade 2 in 2018")
5 minutes: Smash Bros 4 Switch (10/17)
5 minutes: Splatoon 2 (7/17)
5 minutes: Indie Showcase (all re-releases)
10 sec: Samus battling Mother Brain
"But we'll have more for you on that sometime in the future!"
5 minutes: Xenoblade 2
("Look forward to hearing more about Xenoblade 2 in 2018")
5 minutes: Smash Bros 4 Switch (10/17)
5 minutes: Splatoon 2 (7/17)
5 minutes: Indie Showcase (all re-releases)
10 sec: Samus battling Mother Brain
"But we'll have more for you on that sometime in the future!"
Toadthemushroom
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I'd be very surprised if we didn't see Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga DX, though Nintendo has often relegated 3DS announcements outside of the digital events and directs.
I'm more concerned about the Direct being a first party fest, which has been the case for the last few years at E3. Either that or Nintendo should push hard for Bethesda to show Skyrim Portable at their event, and Ubisoft showing Mario + Rabbids at theirs. NIntendo should at least make time and space for important third party games though, like Project Octopath Traveler.
Skittzo0413
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When was the last time they spent 10 minutes on a single game in an E3 Direct?
I'm fairly sure we'll see them talk about Skyrim and Mario x Rabbids though it's possible those will be more heavily featured at Bethesda and Ubisoft's conferences. I'd say at most you should expect a third party sizzle reel outside of those two titles.
Them announcing a new Metroid would win everything.
That's just fanboy nonsense.
Nintendo's 2017 is basically set and its stellar.
No one in their right mind is going to make a decision in the months ahead to not buy a Switch because at E3 they didn't blow out their 2018 lineup.
To some people, the biggest problem with the past Nintendo consoles was the lack of games, especially third party games. If that's still a concern for someone, and that would be a rational concern to me, Nintendo not showing big new games could give that person pause. I don't know why this is outside the realm of possibility.
I think it'd be a disappoint if no new games were announced.
Starchasing
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They can show a 3 minute trailer for the new retro game and then spend hours on the tree house playing and explaining.
They focus is on 2017, that doesnt excluse a teaser for a new game for spring 2018
They focus is on 2017, that doesnt excluse a teaser for a new game for spring 2018
I don't disagree that the more game announcements the better, and I also agree that Nintendo should tease bigger projects more often.
However, I don't think that right now, when the system is still virtually impossible to get and when the rest of 2017 lineup is pretty strong, its short term fortunes will ride on E3.
I'd also add that Nintendo typically announces a lot of stuff in the Fall- if its November and we know nothing about 2018 then yes that's worrisome. But E3 itself is an arbitrary metric IMO.
Yes it sounds silly.
So these 10 minutes would make all the difference ?
That doesn't make any sense, it all depends on what appears and how it's organised, that's it.
If you take the usual direct with Wii U + 3ds for example and remove one of the 2, you rarely meet 30 minutes anyway.
But you can keep your hype down, at least there's a better chance you get surprised this way.
Or it could lower your enjoyment for no reason too.
A lot of people seem to be losing their nerve over the length. But if you compare Nintendo to say, Sony, who haven't had a press conference in the past few months, Nintendo has had a few.
So what you guys are saying is, you'd rather Nintendo NOT have Directs throughout the year and stuff it all into an hour+ event just to make you get more hyped for the duration? We just had a direct that went in depth with Arms, and Splatoon has already been covered a few times now. I'd wager that the E3 spotlight will have little to no details on these games because we already have the details that normally come about at an E3 event. I can see them taking up 30 seconds to say "Hey, did you see our Summer games trailer? We're having a tournament and you'll see these games on the Treehouse too!" - and that be it.
They prefer to do these things more spread out. Don't look at it like "Nintendo's BIG E3 CONFERENCE CHOO CHOOO" and compare it to the other companies. Nintendo hasn't been doing it for a while now.
So what you guys are saying is, you'd rather Nintendo NOT have Directs throughout the year and stuff it all into an hour+ event just to make you get more hyped for the duration? We just had a direct that went in depth with Arms, and Splatoon has already been covered a few times now. I'd wager that the E3 spotlight will have little to no details on these games because we already have the details that normally come about at an E3 event. I can see them taking up 30 seconds to say "Hey, did you see our Summer games trailer? We're having a tournament and you'll see these games on the Treehouse too!" - and that be it.
They prefer to do these things more spread out. Don't look at it like "Nintendo's BIG E3 CONFERENCE CHOO CHOOO" and compare it to the other companies. Nintendo hasn't been doing it for a while now.
Skittzo0413
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It just doesn't sound as disheartening to call it 10 and a half hours of streamed content at E3 as it does to call it a half hour only.
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