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Monster Hunter XX Switch Trailer. August 25. Save Transfers. 3DS Cross Play. Bundle.

Oregano

Member
It's not a "wrong." It's a calculated business decision to build on their western audience.

Just like moving to the 3DS made more sense from a sales perspective than the Vita.

I bought Nintendo consoles solely for MH. Now people will have to do the same for either a PC, PS4, or XB1.

I'm not talking about making MH World, I'm talking about not releasing an existing game that they've already done most of the localisation for.
 

lyrick

Member
Yeah thats where I'm at. Might be naive but I'm not giving up all hope yet.

Maybe someone should see if they're willing to talk about Xbox One X improvements or why the lack of showcase on the Xbox Showcase/Daily thing.

It's possible Capcom may have gotten themselves into an exclusive franchise marketing deal.
 

EDarkness

Member
Maybe someone should see if they're willing to talk about Xbox One X improvements or why the lack of showcase on the Xbox Showcase/Daily thing.

It's possible Capcom may have gotten themselves into an exclusive franchise marketing deal.

Well, I kinda felt like that was the case already. I bet this has Sony written all over it.
 
Being a MH fan in the West is living in constant uncertainty. First, after bringing MHP2G (Freedom Unite) they decide to skip MHP3, and I am like, ok, I will move to your new console to keep playing your games. Then they do this with MHXX, sight, is not about being salty, is just that as a MH fan I just want to play all the games.

Shame none of the other hunting games captured the combat of MH, they went for the flashiness but forgot about the substance that makes MH such a unique game, with all the flaws it has.
 

Aselith

Member
It's not a "wrong." It's a calculated business decision to build on their western audience.

Just like moving to the 3DS made more sense from a sales perspective than the Vita.

I bought Nintendo consoles solely for MH. Now people will have to do the same for either a PC, PS4, or XB1.

If they want people to move to a new console, that's not a move calculated to "build their western audience" people aren't moving to a new console for a game they haven't played yet.

Whatever the reason, that ain't it. If anything you want it releasing on the most reasonably possible consoles if you want the audience to grow.
 

HeeHo

Member
Even with Sock's tweet, it still says, "We have nothing to announce for Switch currently."

My hunch is that they don't want to take too much of the spotlight off their new HD game even if they want to bring XX over to Switch at some point? Maybe they want to announce it later? Am I being unreasonable or something?

I think they are leaving money on the table should they truly decide to never bring it over. I don't see them doing that either.
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
Also, not that it was expected, but World is confirmed to offer no local MP.

I could be completely wrong- its happened many times before- but I find it hard to believe Capcom is going to permanently abandon what made it a phenomenon in the first place.
 

YBdisk

Member
Nintendo fans are pretty much begging for an easy 3ds port at this point and Capcom is just giving them the finger.

Oh well, I'll take World on pc. No point bitching about this anymore. What a disappointing turn of events...
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
Even with Sock's tweet, it still says, "We have nothing to announce for Switch currently."

My hunch is that they don't want to take too much of the spotlight off their new HD game even if they want to bring XX over to Switch at some point? Maybe they want to announce it later? Am I being unreasonable or something?

I think they are leaving money on the table should they truly decide to never bring it over. I don't see them doing that either.


You might be right. I still find it hard to believe they would go through the effort of porting XX over with no future plans for the series and just being content to get a few hundred thousand more copies out of japan.
 
Even with Sock's tweet, it still says, "We have nothing to announce for Switch currently."

My hunch is that they don't want to take too much of the spotlight off their new HD game even if they want to bring XX over to Switch at some point? Maybe they want to announce it later? Am I being unreasonable or something?

I think they are leaving money on the table should they truly decide to never bring it over. I don't see them doing that either.

You're not being unreasonable but these types of posts were pretty common during the Portable 3rd era.

Capcom has no issue leaving money on the table, I can assure you of that.

(to be fair, this would be a lot more lost $$$ than a PSP title would net in the west in late 2011)
 

EDarkness

Member
I don't play MH locally, I play it online but thanks for the concern. Just want to get the game that they're releasing in japan.

You are. It's called Monster Hunter: World. Ha, ha!!

You might be right. I still find it hard to believe they would go through the effort of porting XX over with no future plans for the series and just being content to get a few hundred thousand more copies out of japan.

I take it as priorities changed somewhere down the line and since they were working on XX, they figured they'd get something out of it on the cheap.
 

crinale

Member
It's not a "wrong." It's a calculated business decision to build on their western audience.

Just like moving to the 3DS made more sense from a sales perspective than the Vita.

I bought Nintendo consoles solely for MH. Now people will have to do the same for either a PC, PS4, or XB1.
Capcom also ported a fighter to Vita before they bailed iirc.
But according to the rumor portable series will continue on Switch so that's different.
 

Demoli

Member
Just a week ago I thought I had Pokemon Stars and Monster Hunter XX coming to me this year :'(

While XX was a somewhat reasonable assumption, anyone who pays attention to gamefreak's decisions knew that Stars had 0 chance to be on Switch.

On translation topic, them not bringing over XX is increadible bullshit. Capcom is the worst with this. So far in the MH series they havent brought over Dos, P3rd and 4 and now it seems XX is joining them. This is reaching Ace Attourney levels.
 

Moondrop

Banned
It appears Capcom simply made a numbers decision: new install base B > old install base A. Seems unnecessarily risky to me to abandon the smaller, loyal group A for a shot at the larger, fickle group B, but I'm not a business person.

Though I kind of like the idea of all of us group A GAFers struggling through the Japanese XX translation. Sounds lulzy.
 

Oregano

Member
You might be right. I still find it hard to believe they would go through the effort of porting XX over with no future plans for the series and just being content to get a few hundred thousand more copies out of japan.

I wasn't just trolling when I expressed those doubts and even if they do make separate Switch games its meaningless to me if they only release them in Japan.;_;
 

BooJoh

Member
As many others here have said, I own a PS4 and plan to get MH:W there (though I am a bit salty that I have friends who will get it on PC instead and my PC may not even run it) but I ALSO want MHXX because I've grown to love MH as a handheld franchise.

I'm not giving up hope yet, certainly not in the middle of E3. "We have nothing to announce for Switch currently" could literally mean "We're not announcing it today, we're announcing it tomorrow." But at the same time I'm not holding my breath.

I can't really imagine them abandoning the portable franchise in Japan though, and what would be really tragic in my eyes is if they have two concurrent MH franchises - console and handheld - and the West only gets the console ones. Heck, I'm still disappointed we haven't gotten any of the Felyne Village games.
 
Can't blame Capcom, really.

They're in muddy waters. Every other year there's buyout chatter. Old franchises underselling. I sense that MH World is their last shot to make a big impact in the West, and they don't want to blur the message or cause any confusion by bringing another MH here.

But who knows, maybe they do it? One can never read minds, and such.
 

wwm0nkey

Member
It appears Capcom simply made a numbers decision: new install base B > old install base A. Seems unnecessarily risky to me to abandon the smaller, loyal group A for a shot at the larger, fickle group B, but I'm not a business person.

Though I kind of like the idea of all of us group A GAFers struggling through the Japanese XX translation. Sounds lulzy.

It might pay off, but that is a big might. Though I 100% think we are going to see the return of 2 series going on at the same time with a World style series and a Classic style series
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
I wasn't just trolling when I expressed those doubts and even if they do make separate Switch games its meaningless to me if they only release them in Japan.;_;

I'll concede you *might* have a point on this if you concede Nintendo made it clear today that Switch is replacing 3DS and has a steady stream of software lined up.

Deal? ;)
 

Eusis

Member
For you few holdouts, it's time to accept XX's fate in the west

There's no way Capcom is going to bring this to Switch in the west AFTER World launches. Capcom's western branches are 100% focused on World.

Edit - Ah, missed Kyoufu's post. I'm basically repeating what he said.
Could still be PR speak, but if we get XX it won't be this year probably (though I was kind of expecting not if we didn't hear anything by now). I'm staying cautiously optimistic because it seems insane to skip it now versus 2 being a follow up to a game that wasn't a big hit IIRC in NA(/EU?( and MHP3 coming after the PSP was basically dead outside of Japan and SCEA seemingly being a pain about HD Remasters, but the 3DS is still getting good support while the Switch is a hot new system ripe for a Monster Hunter to land on and get a lot of eyeballs on. I could see that they had the gears in motion to be this way for awhile and seriously underestimated how much of an opportunity it'd be to get XX on Switch ASAP.

And they probably really are not going to start anything localization-wise until the Switch version is out, and that's August. So, yeah, plausibly first half 2018.

EDIT: Seriously, yeah, the more I think about this the plan probably really is "don't do shit until the Japanese Switch version is out." In which case we'd PROBABLY get it but in... like... June. So we'd wait a year from a year, over a year when going from the 3DS version's release. Which DOES sound typical of Capcom to be honest.
 

yami4ct

Member
I'll concede you *might* have a point on this if you concede Nintendo made it clear today that Switch is replacing 3DS and has a steady stream of software lined up.

Deal? ;)

The significant amount of 3DS software was weird, and was probably greenlit when they weren't sure Switch was the next 3DS, but them going 'hey this thing is gonna get pokemon' confirmed that's where they're headed.
 
It's not a "wrong." It's a calculated business decision to build on their western audience.

Just like moving to the 3DS made more sense from a sales perspective than the Vita.

I bought Nintendo consoles solely for MH. Now people will have to do the same for either a PC, PS4, or XB1.

What are you talking about?

We are discussing how we can't play MHXX HD because Capcom decided not to localized it.

Solve this issue for me with a PS4 please. I have one and I don't see how that is helping me.
 

Oregano

Member
The significant amount of 3DS software was weird, and was probably greenlit when they weren't sure Switch was the next 3DS, but them going 'hey this thing is gonna get pokemon' confirmed that's where they're headed.

Not to derail but I mentioned in the Media Create thread that I thought it was notable Shinya Takahashi spoke of how he was relieved Switch was being accepted as both console and handheld.
 

Quadratic

Member
I'm also in no mood to import MHXX and go through the whole early game again in Japanese. On top of that, there's no way I'll be able convince my local multiplayer buddies to do the same.

So with no new Monster Hunter in the pipeline for me, I guess it's time to hang up my bowguns for good. It with a privilege hunting with so many skilled GAF folks. I'll always remember the fun times and I hope no one will hold all my carts against me.

You were the best HBG specalist I've played with, all the way back to 3 Ultimate on the WiiU.

I'm sure we'll cross paths again.
 

Thoraxes

Member
Could still be PR speak, but if we get XX it won't be this year probably (though I was kind of expecting not if we didn't hear anything by now). I'm staying cautiously optimistic because it seems insane to skip it now versus 2 being a follow up to a game that wasn't a big hit IIRC in NA(/EU?( and MHP3 coming after the PSP was basically dead outside of Japan and SCEA seemingly being a pain about HD Remasters, but the 3DS is still getting good support while the Switch is a hot new system ripe for a Monster Hunter to land on and get a lot of eyeballs on. I could see that they had the gears in motion to be this way for awhile and seriously underestimated how much of an opportunity it'd be to get XX on Switch ASAP.

And they probably really are not going to start anything localization-wise until the Switch version is out, and that's August. So, yeah, plausibly first half 2018.

EDIT: Seriously, yeah, the more I think about this the plan probably really is "don't do shit until the Japanese Switch version is out." In which case we'd PROBABLY get it but in... like... June. So we'd wait a year from a year, over a year when going from the 3DS version's release. Which DOES sound typical of Capcom to be honest.

Alternatively, maybe it's not being worked on at Capcom, and was contracted to someone instead.
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
Deal. Nintendo did good today.

For the record, I still think its more likely than not that Switch will continue to get the series..but admit today is the first time I've questioned that a little.
 

KingBroly

Banned
It's not a "wrong." It's a calculated business decision to build on their western audience.

Just like moving to the 3DS made more sense from a sales perspective than the Vita.

I bought Nintendo consoles solely for MH. Now people will have to do the same for either a PC, PS4, or XB1.

Dividing up your series' base depending on where you live is not a smart decision.
 

Kyoufu

Member
What are you talking about?

We are discussing how we can't play MHXX HD because Capcom decided not to localized it.

Solve this issue for me with a PS4 please. I have one and I don't see how that is helping me.

I can solve that issue with a Switch actually. Thank god for region free systems.
 

Eusis

Member
Alternatively, maybe it's not being worked on at Capcom, and was contracted to someone instead.
Isn't that standard operating procedure admittedly? Though given how little there SHOULD be to localize it'd make sense anyway. And probably still be a case of "we need to wait on the Switch version's release."
 

Oregano

Member
For the record, I still think its more likely than not that Switch will continue to get the series..but admit today is the first time I've questioned that a little.

Yeah...

I was going to make a point of buying MH World and playing on my brothers Xbox but I'm not sure I feel comfortable supporting it now. Not even sure I want to buy MH Stories. :(

I can solve that issue with a Switch actually. Thank god for region free systems.

Oh cool are you giving out Japanese lessons too?
 
For the record, I still think its more likely than not that Switch will continue to get the series..but admit today is the first time I've questioned that a little.

I'm pretty convinced we aren't getting it on the Switch in the West now. Which sucks. Japan still gonna get MH on switch though.
 

Nightii

Banned
All popular IPs must be AAA westernized opej world dreams, get in or go to the corner, where different genres belong.

It's ok, maybe an indie game will play like it and the minorities can enjoy it, just don't let it get too big.
 

sirap

Member
This is but a taste of what it felt like to be a Vita owner lol.

Capcom continues to make baffling decisions when it comes to this franchise.
 

Ridley327

Member
TBF that's what they do right now with regionalized servers (not bringing over the portable games is still real stupid)

That's more to do with all the licensing deals they do for quests in Japan, isn't it? It's certainly not a technical issue that's preventing them from accomplishing that.
 

yami4ct

Member
That's more to do with all the licensing deals they do for quests in Japan, isn't it? It's certainly not a technical issue that's preventing them from accomplishing that.

It probably is. That would make the most sense.

I was just saying they already do split their base by region and really always have.
 

tuffy

Member
You were the best HBG specalist I've played with, all the way back to 3 Ultimate on the WiiU.

I'm sure we'll cross paths again.
Thanks so much. I remember the fun times we had. Like after hunting 3U Super Event Brachy with a team full of GAF folks, I've never been troubled by Brachydioses ever since.

I live in hope those hunts will be back someday.
 

JoeFu

Banned
Dang... pretty disappointing news. I have the means to play MH:Worlds (PC and PS4), but not being able to sit in the same room with my friends and just hunt together is pretty sucky. ughhhhh
 
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