Immaculate
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Oh I got it mixed up then
Yeah but like others said 4U is at 1.5 million and Gen is at 1 million. Not sure how much else they can be expecting...
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GameSpot: Capcom Not Bringing Switch Ver. of Monster Hunter XX to US (at this time)
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Yeah but like others said 4U is at 1.5 million and Gen is at 1 million. Not sure how much else they can be expecting...
SporeCrawler
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generations sold 500k and 4U did over 1,2 million in the west. even a 3ds release would make sense given that 3DS is still getting good support and is even releasing new hardware.
also above all.. stories is going to get released in the west, which is the most baffling thing in this...
oh.. guess i was looking at old numbers lol
Did someone can find a reason to not make a localization for the west of XX other than: "we don't want to split the west userbase on 2 console with different core mechanics?" that i find completly crazy?
Don't reply with "localization price", because is irrelevant.
The only reason i find be true is sony moneyhatt all of this.
Don't reply with "localization price", because is irrelevant.
The only reason i find be true is sony moneyhatt all of this.
Easy because it's Capcom
Its E3 they want to promote MHW not XX
Hadn't seen that one, thanks. If anything, it tends to give even more credence to my breakdown of the first tweet. It gives us a reason why they're being so tight-lipped about MHXX: to give MHW more breathing room, as many posters here have speculated. The idea is probably that they don't want both games to steal each other's thunder, so they're talking about them one at a time. And since clearly MH World is Capcom's big push for the Western market, that's what they're emphasizing. Expect a big marketing campaign for MHW leading up to the release and/or when it comes out. MHXX's marketing, on the other hand, will probably be subdued, if not anemic by comparison... Doesn't mean it's a clever move on their part, but it's an explanation at least.
Don't know why you're listening to me though lol. I don't work in PR (though you could say I work in a niche branch of communications). It's just my two cents based on my understanding of... well, English, I guess. Probably helps that it's not my first language in this case.
Well but, 2 games is double income, and double promotion of the brand in the west.
What is the meaning about promoting only one?
Is Nintendo picking up Stories for the west? That's the only way I can make sense of it.
ok so lets say capcom localize this in the "usual" capcom time when it comes to mh which is 6-8 months, this game would be out earliest arround december
worls is announced for what, early 2018?
if you like think 5 secons about this you come up with a sane reason, that they dont want to canabilize their own game
and not some tinfoil theory
Sony didn't do a thing. When Sony moneyhats a game there is no Xbox version
I know that a lot of Nintendo fans like Capcom games and don't want to blame the company, but there is no need for theories like that.
SporeCrawler
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yes it is... still doesnt make sense. nintendo should have picked up XX not stories. i know that stories is supposed to be much better than the sales suggest but still...
And I find that baffling. Has the scenario of offering two different products on different systems ever lead to less sales than just offering one product? How would XX affect negatively World, specially if they split the release dates?
Hell, (smart) companies often do the opposite and use (re)releases of older software to warm up for the new thing.
Had they localized it in their usual amount of time then the game would have been out this summer. They would have obviously tarted work on localizing it back when the 3DS version started development.
Er.. I can't speak for Nintendo fans but I am not even mad that capcom made world for xbone and PS4. I am pissed that capcom is not bring over a fucking game that they already had the template for in generations. It's all on capcom.
so you saying if nintendo would release pokemon stars for switch while pokemon ultra san and moon for the 3ds at the same time it would not affect sales of this products
gotcha
SporeCrawler
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yeah capcom had no problem releasing REmake and RE0 and RE4 Wii, and RE Umbrella Chronicles, RE Dark Side Chronicles and RE5 respectively in the same year.
depends on what stars is right? if stars is sun and moon remade in HD while ultra sun and ultra moon is a sequel to sun and moon then i dont really see the sales being effected much, in particular if ultra moon and ultra sun features new pokemon
Soulsborne niche? That's new to me
This theory came from the leak that annouced mh world.
I'm far from defending the acts of Capcom, just i don't find any logic around his actions
If they split the release dates so that XX lands here a little whiles after World I don't think it would be a problem, but announcing that might lead to more people sharing japanese footage of XX in the west in anticipation of it releasing...which could undersell MH:W for people who don't know the difference between the titles here, and just read Monster Hunter. People might make that mistake seeing official XX Switch footage being advertised here too.
Makes more sense to do it the other way round - show people MH:W a lot, then bring over XX unexpectedly.
am i tripping hard because of lack and sleep or does this game dont come out like end of summer in japan?
The_Endgamer
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Capcom, if you're reading this thread.
You are a shitty company and you should feel bad.
You are a shitty company and you should feel bad.
It comes out end of August in Japan for Switch.
The 3ds version is 3 months old.
obviously it would be another game, like mhxx and mh worlds
3DS version released in March, Switch version comes out August.
SporeCrawler
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nobody is saying it is dependent on nintendo. everybody is saying its a handheld franchise. console sales for MH have been weak compared to portable sales. as you mentioned the PSP game sold 5 million in japan alone. the best selling console game did 1,9 million world wide.
dark souls 3 (and nioh) also looks much better graphically then MH W does so far. the souls borne community is there and MH will target them but its not an uncontested field.
Like people are so stupid to see the difference...
MH will continue to sell only to its core base and MHW won't change that in a big way like capcom is hoping for
MHW is a full fledged MH Main Titel, people who didn't care for this IP won't change their minds over night only because of graphics or platform (only a few).
MH is a core game with a core audience and this won't change
So there wouldn't be no dmg to MH if they bring MHXX before MHW. We will eat up everything that Capcom will serve us
and topic is about switch version no? Were we under the imprssion capcom was about to do a ww release?
JetSetRadio
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Just pass the bill to nintendo.
SporeCrawler
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its also about 3DS... i would take the 3DS release if thats the only version they are releasing.
and you are not realizing why MH is popular in japan in the first place.
http://2p.com/2414240_1/Find-The-Other-Half-Of-You-By-Playing-Monster-Hunter-by-Jessica.htm
this is how people play monster hunter in japan. together in groups, in cafes not alone at home over online.
Then, yes. I don't see how a new announcing a new Mystery Dugeon for 3DS would affect much the sales of the debut of new gen Pokemon on the Switch, is more akin to this situation. Is like saying that return of Samus 3ds killed the hype for Metroid Prime 4.
The 3DS version came out back in March.
Dark Souls did pretty good here, and it doesn't have dinosaurs... high quality, challenging action games with good mechanics are quite popular right now.
And yep, people get easily confused. They're going to be casting a wide net with this.
There is nothing different between both in question of localization.
but i didnt say pokemon mystery dungeon, i say pokemon stars, as in new mainline entry
no its like saying nintendo does not release Return of Samus at the same time as Metroid Prime 4. Which, what suprise, nintendo doesnt
MH is not an RPG or Soulsborne like game, please stop this comparison...beacuse this is what will make people confused
right but only when you assume capcom would release the 3ds release in the west if they would decide to localize XX instead of switch, and like they began on localizing the 3ds version or considering it
which is like not happening
Pila
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I'm not fighting some silly system war. I don't care at all, I'll buy stuff if I need it in order to play mh. Hell, I own a PS4, who cares about this sad "Nintendo vs Sony" shit, I'm not 13.
I just wanted xx localized
Capcom can't be THIS shitty, I still find it hard to believe. What a massive letdown. :/It's a hardcore action role playing game with dinosaurs, it's going to be popular. Especially if they can keep it all looking great like in most of the footage we've seen.
While things are still off-topic...
Monster Hunter exploded in popularity in Japan by being on a portable system thanks to local multiplayer.
It has done okay in the west in comparison, but "was" building up a base on handhelds.
Now that it moves back to home consoles in the west, what is it about the game that will make it do well in sales in the west on home consoles?
If so, why hasn't Monster Hunter clones like God Eater 2 Rage Burst or Toukiden 2 been successful on the PS4 in the west?
If the reason is brand power than why was Final Fantasy Explorers (another monster hunter clone) unsuccessful on the 3DS in the west?
Monster Hunter exploded in popularity in Japan by being on a portable system thanks to local multiplayer.
It has done okay in the west in comparison, but "was" building up a base on handhelds.
Now that it moves back to home consoles in the west, what is it about the game that will make it do well in sales in the west on home consoles?
If so, why hasn't Monster Hunter clones like God Eater 2 Rage Burst or Toukiden 2 been successful on the PS4 in the west?
If the reason is brand power than why was Final Fantasy Explorers (another monster hunter clone) unsuccessful on the 3DS in the west?
Lol don't worry I doubt anyone who frequent GAF will be confused. I really hope mhw does well cos I don't want to see another dmc
TheHoneyDuke
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Don't the dark souls games sell like 2 million world wide. Monster hunter sells more in Japan vs dark souls world wide. Also how many of those copies are after a quick price drop or pic sale. Monster hunter isn't really heavily discounted until it's old.
I'm worried about people who didn't know MH and read things like MH is like a Soulsborne Game
They should try and read better:
Many core games (including action titles like Dark Souls) can have a wide reach. I never said it was a soulsborne game, though they do have similarities.
But when you add dinosaurs to that...it changes interest dramatically! Who doesn't love dinosaurs when the game looks that good and is known to have solid combat mechanics.
Just look at interest in Ark...and that pales in comparison to what we've seen here (unless you own ultra high end pc specs, and even then, gameplay wise, it doesn't seem as good).
I reckon they're set up nicely for it to do really well here. They're still releasing XX in Japan, so they're covered there anyway.
I would not worry about that, if the misinformation and the usual nonsense on gaf would have any real impact we would have a baaaad time
That's true xD
It's as niche as Monster hunter is. Meaning both are hardcore games that broke into the mainstream.
I said that spacing the release would be better. Ideally, MHXX would be holidays and MHW in March of whatever date Capcom is planning in 2018.
Also, we are under the assumption that MHW is the next big thing in Monster Hunter and wouldn't fall short when compared to XX, as it is an old gen game. In fact, we should expect World to be a significantly more compelling product, which is a very different situation than the scenario you posted.
On my scenario, Capcom get more money from MH core fans, as they buy 2 games instead of 1. From Switch only owners that are interested in the franchise and Switch owners that are new to the franchise and get the only big third party game available for the holidays. They might even like the game enough to be compelled to buy World! Then, they get all the sales they were planning to get with world in march.
As in Nintendo example, Return of Samus is designed to increased the interest in Metroid, not to lessen it.
TheHoneyDuke
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Sorry you are making no sense.... hunting dinosaurs has nothing to do with why monster hunter is successful. It's about strategy and dedication. Monster hunter has been selling well in the west enough to warrant localization. If capcom isnt happy with sales for a niche game then they don't know the market. For monster hunter to sell amazing in the west it would have to be a completely different game.
Monster Hunter isn't that well known in the West. This is a fresh chance for them to gain a lot of attention from a wider audience and dinosaurs are going to play a big part in that.
The combat being good will only help. People have been getting used to, and more fond of, challenging action games here. Not sure how the strategy and planning is going to work out but it seems they're letting you change up weapons at huts or whatever anyway.
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