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Torn between ARMs and Splatoon 2
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This post aligns with my thoughts so I'll quote it:
Only thing not too correct in this post is the ARMS update speeds but yea... ARMS struggles to justify it's $60 price tag right now... Go Splatoon
Only thing not too correct in this post is the ARMS update speeds but yea... ARMS struggles to justify it's $60 price tag right now... Go Splatoon
AquaWateria
Member
Do you want to play a racing game or fighting game that's quite different than traditional fighting games?
Both lack a story mode so it really depends on your taste.
It already dropped from 60 to 45-50 in Germany. In like two weeks. I don't expect ARMS to be as popular in a year as it was at launch.
AquaWateria
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Leatherface
Member
Even if ARMS had a ton more content, Splatoon 2 would still be the easiest recommendation ever. Content aside, Splatoon is just the better game by a fairly wide margin. So unless they completely screwed up the sequel here, which it doesn't look like they did, the choice is clear, at least as far as I'm concerned. ARMS is solid though and worth owning regardless if you can swing it, but not until you get Splatoon 2. 
If I had to choose one, I'd go with Splatoon 2. Just like you, I never played the first one, but everything I've seen about it looked awesome. I've bought Arms and played very little of it, though that's because I'm currently going through Zelda. It's a fun game, mind you, but right now it's rather light on content for its price (I say "right now" because there's free stuff coming).
Same lol
AquaWateria
Member
Having a update every month imo would be a really good pace.
YearoftheWooster
Member
I'm in the boat where I played Splatoon 1 a lot over the summer and got to S rank, and also bought ARMS at launch.
Spatoon 1 lasted me about 3 months straight, with some sporadic weekly logins thereafter.
ARMS lasted a couple days. A few more days after that when introducing it to friends.
I'd go with Splatoon 2. Maybe ARMS if you'd rather do some pick up and play, but I think Splatoon 2 has a deeper appeal even with shorter bursts over time.
Spatoon 1 lasted me about 3 months straight, with some sporadic weekly logins thereafter.
ARMS lasted a couple days. A few more days after that when introducing it to friends.
I'd go with Splatoon 2. Maybe ARMS if you'd rather do some pick up and play, but I think Splatoon 2 has a deeper appeal even with shorter bursts over time.
Splatoon is a fine pick-up-and-play game. Just log on for a couple quick matches of Turf Wars, or to knock out a story mode stage or two.
But I don't see why you couldn't do the same with Splatoon 2?
TDLink
Member
As of tomorrow, when the first major update hits, ARMS will have received 1 new character, a new stage, and 3 new ARMS to go along with him. Plus a spectator mode, and the Headlok vs mode. Spectator mode is the only thing actually in the game right now by the way, this other stuff technically doesn't hit until tomorrow.
By comparison, in a comparative amount of time, Splatoon released 3 new maps, 8 new Weapons, Ranked play, and a big new game mode (very nearly two, Tower Control missed being within a month of release by two days). Multiple weapons were released weekly, new stages nearly weekly, and Splat Zones and Ranked came out within a week of release.
The Splatoon content was much more substantial and at a higher frequency.
AquaWateria
Member
Ranked mode should of been unlocked already and some of those content in Splatoon was on the disc already. So I would argue otherwise.
So I would say it's on par.
LegendofLex
Member
Splatoon 2.
It's more unique, more fun, and gives you better variety across its single-player and multiplayer modes.
From my limited experience with ARMS (only played it for a couple hours), Splatoon is also way easier to get into and to play casually. That makes it a much better choice if you're strapped for time.
It's more unique, more fun, and gives you better variety across its single-player and multiplayer modes.
From my limited experience with ARMS (only played it for a couple hours), Splatoon is also way easier to get into and to play casually. That makes it a much better choice if you're strapped for time.
the first Splatoon is in my top 5 all time and it's not 5
yeah the pace of the Splatoon updates were great. you had something to chew on every week pretty much. nothing wrong with how ARMS is doing it though.
SanguineShark
Member
Lots of people are ignoring the fact Splatoon 2 has no local co-op modes, splitscreeen, etc.
If you want to play with friends locally (something the Switch excels at), Splatoon 2 is disappointing.
I wrote off Arms a while back because I thought the content too sparse, but considering Splatoon 2 has no splitscreen, I'm not so sure anymore.
If you want to play with friends locally (something the Switch excels at), Splatoon 2 is disappointing.
I wrote off Arms a while back because I thought the content too sparse, but considering Splatoon 2 has no splitscreen, I'm not so sure anymore.
TheMagician
Member
From someone with ARMS...
Splatoon 2.
Don't even think about it.
Splatoon 2.
Don't even think about it.
TDLink
Member
Spectator mode should of been unlocked already and everything about Max Brass and Headlok was in the game from Day 1, but inaccessible to players.
The point is Splatoon made content playable, by players, at a faster pace. Regardless of if it was already on the disc.
Splatoon 2 is starting out with way more content on its disc, accessible to players on Day 1, than ARMS will have after one month of being out anyways.
Splatoon 2 does have local co-op. It just isn't split screen. The OP mentioned nothing about wanting or needing split screen multiplayer. It's about the only thing ARMS has over Splatoon 2, sure, but at the same time Splatoon 2 ultimately supports more players than ARMS as well.
AquaWateria
Member
Well yeah Splatoon 2 will have more content because it's a sequel that builds upon the first game. For your imformation I am not arguing that Splatoon does not have lots of content, just arguing about ARMS having a slower update which imo does not.
SanguineShark
Member
True, you're right, I completely forgot you can local co-op with other Switch systems. However, that's hardly convenient. Could have used splitscreen ala Mario Kart 8 D or Arms. Most people aren't going to have extra Switches just laying around, and it's a lot easier to simply get 2-3 other people to play with and use your joycons.
TDLink
Member
The original Splatoon also had more content by way of having an actual single player campaign.
But that aside, and the amount of content within those updates aside, weekly updates are factually faster than monthly updates.
And besides, it's completely fair to compare Splatoon 2 to ARMS in this situation because that is the choice the OP is debating between.
I just don't expect the game to explode like Splatoon did or to be as popular in a year (after Mario, MH, Splatoon 2 and others came out) as it was during its launch.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
i agree and i only played both beta's
zenspider
Member
OP called it like Babe Ruth haha.
Splatoon 2 no question. ARMS is really good, but has a fighting game learning curve while being even more obtuse (no frame data, guaranteed punishes, etc.) Splatoon 2 has so many playstyles and ways to contribute and they are all fun.
xochipiltontli
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As someone who was really looking forward to ARMS, go with Splatoon 2. ARMS feels like a $40 game at best content wise, and the gameplay isn't as addicting as Splatoon was when it first launched as a content starved game. Splatoon 2 seems to be coming out with a good amount of content, and its gameplay is some of my favorite ever.
Imp the Dimp
Member
Is Splatoon worth if for single player alone?
AquaWateria
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OrbitalBeard
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If you're ok paying $60 for a 6-8 hour campaign, absolutely.
If you buy it, I implore you to try the MP modes though. I couldn't care less about playing online with others, but Splatoon is the sole exception (ok, I like playing Mario Kart online on occasion as well).
I think one of the reasons so many people love Splatoon is because it has some of the best audio/visual feedback ever made for a video game.
I used XX because it's such a Japan game. Splatoon was big everywhere but especially in Japan, causing Wii U shortages for some time. I feel like ARMS needs Japan to have a long life but I don't see it in the long run. People will jump to other games. Maybe Pokken even.
Neoleo2143
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Probably not unless you really want something for a 3D Mario Itch before Odyssey. It's standard shooter campaign length so about 5-6 hours for a first playthrough plus replay value through the collectibles, upgrading weapons and completing stages with different tools.
Think more Titanfall 2 and less Uncharted 4. More Arcade, less adventure.
That being said, if you do get it, I implore you to look into the other modes because while the Single Player is good and solid and in a pretty unique set up overall among shooter campaigns, it's the multiplayer that really develops those skills from the single player.
OrbitalBeard
Member
I think ARMS as an IP has lots of potential, but it'll be a slow burn and it might even take until the sequel to really become a big success. My guess is the title has done well enough for Nintendo to invest in at least one follow-up.
I think the sequel could use a pretty robust single-player mode. The game would work quite well as a 3D brawler.
backflip10019
Member
Yep, agreed.
It was pretty clear from the outset it wouldn't be the next Splatoon.
Splatoon took shooters and reinvented them. ARMS is just a fighting game with extendable arms.
Another factor ist the team aspect. Teams like 4v4 play a huge role in the community. Team composition, strategies and so on. ARMS is not that.
SparksterMeta0
Member
ARMS is great, but Splatoon 2 already has more bang for your buck like its predecessor.
If you have to pick, I say go for the latter when it arrives.
If you have to pick, I say go for the latter when it arrives.
NinjaCoachZ
Member
The thought of it being the new Splatoon was a bit of a pipe dream to begin with. Few new IPs explode the same way Splatoon did. A comfortable 2 - optimistic 3 million always seemed like the ceiling for ARMS.
IronicSonic
Member
I was in the same camp but ARMS is a really good, fun and competitive game. Splatoon will be the biggest hit this year tho
Whynotboth.gi--
Fuck.
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No but seriously Splatoon 2, my guy. Way more content for your monies and will have a much bigger playerbase.
Fuck.
Whynotboth.mp4
No but seriously Splatoon 2, my guy. Way more content for your monies and will have a much bigger playerbase.
Splatoon 2 for sure. You will get more bang for your buck and it has a pretty popular fanbase. And while I enjoy Arms a lot, I'd get it on sale or when a price drops hits. It doesn't have a lot of content outside of multiplayer. I suppose the same could be said for splatoon after the campaign ends, but splatfests, new clothing and weapons, etc tend to keep the game fun and fresh and addicting for a year+.
Neoleo2143
Member
I actually think that ARMS generally shows less of the "greenness" that popped up in the original (that largely seems to be gone away for the sequel). The Devs seems more aware of what they've made than the original Splatoon where nonsensical things like Bubblers and Krakens were unfortunate results.
But the comparison is between Splatoon 2 and ARMS and Splatoon 2 seems basically where the game should have gone for the most part in complexity, approachability for high skill and low skill players and content, progression and so on. ARMS has ways to go to reach that.
DarkConfidant
Member
I prefer Splatoon, so I'd choose that. However, I like Arms a lot, so it's hard not to suggest just getting both.
The 2 games are very different, and even as multiplayer games, engage you in very different ways.
Only one of the games has couch/tabletop multiplayer too.
The 2 games are very different, and even as multiplayer games, engage you in very different ways.
Only one of the games has couch/tabletop multiplayer too.
flatearthpandas
Member
I haven't tried ARMS personally but Splatoon is a ton of fun, even if you don't traditionally like shooters.