Just bought posters for Horizon, Uncharted, and Journey. So incredibly beautiful.
I found this thread unintentionally a couple months ago through a Google search, rather than seeing it on Neogaf itself (even though I have visited this site probably daily for the last 10 years.) I've been following it ever since. I don't think Neogaf is the best way to get exposure for a project due to how quickly it moves. Getting more people to like and share your Facebook/instagram posts is probably more effective. I also wonder if you made a formal website for your work if that would help things, from which you display samples of your all your work and link to your other accounts (RedBubble, Patrion, Facebook, instagram, Twitter, even this neogaf thread, etc). I mean, if you were to write up a resume, what site would you direct your future employers to that summarizes all of your work? Although I may just be old fashioned -- maybe a formal website isn't necessary anymore. Anyways, I love your work. Keep it up.
Great, dat sony selection
Well i'm trying to get more people everywhere actually Gaf has been pretty good in bringing me sells and even patreon support i think. I can see it cause when the thread is bumped significantly, i generally see mails notifications in the same time. A personal site could be usefull but i'm never sure and it takes time. For now i use patreon public posts and it's good cause people see the patreon when they want the wallpaper.
I'm looking forward to Mario RPG. Wondering what it's gonna look like.
And I'm sorry you're feeling discouraged. You have amazing artistic talent. But it really is hard to keep a thread like this up when there's so much gaming news going on constantly.
I really hope that things pick up and you are successful with this. This is something you like to do. People would love to be paid to do what they like to do. I'm currently in retail and it's not fun. It can be either fast and stressful or slow and boring. I'm hoping I can figure out what I would actually enjoy doing as a job that pays well enough.
Anyway, keep it up. =)
Thx Lucent.
Well doing what you do is nice but it's stressful to when you don't know how much money will be at the end of the month. And it turns what you like into some kind of burden sometimes. I can't take a break for example. There will be no break this holiday cause sales have been bad.
Hey Orioto, long time fan here! I love your work. I had a question about your process and I've only recently come back to GAF so have a bit of catching up to do but I'm just wondering if you've ever done any tutorials on how you make your images? Is it completely hand drawn as in you create every element in the images yourself or do you use some assets from the games and change them to look like your water painting style?
I only ask this because some of the backgrounds look so genuinely genuine I'm stunned that it's a 2D drawing. I'm an aspiring artist myself, although I'm into a totally different thing (miniature painting) I feel like I could learn something from the way you use colour.
I'm also interested in how long each piece of work takes you to complete hours wise.
I use matte painting and some digi painting additionally. There was a halo timelaps where you can see some of the process but not every part. Cause it as too long. I'm not a drawer nor a painter initially, even if i'm more comfortable with colors than lines obviously. Even if i use a lot of photo assets, i work by feeling and with many layers added on top of each other, so it's actually more like a painter process where you try and add things as you feel it.
My incoming Earthbound art use no photos cause it was really too surreal, except for the sky which is a composite of many skies with things added on top as often, so it's more digi painting and toshop tools. I use the lasso and lighting layer a lot for example, so i can blur them the way i want after that.
Orioto don't take a lack of replies as a sign of disinterest. But people are getting used to everything, even amazing art, and at one point, always replying with «Amazing work» doesn't seem very constructive. It's like repeating yourself like a broken record. It's the same for the pictures I post on Facebook, I used to get a lot of comments and praise, now people are used to it, and only like once in a while. It doesn't bother me as I'm doing it mainly for me, and I know I make some pretty good pictures now after all the good comments. On the other hand, it's true a photo doesn't take as much time as your work.
Have the sales slowed down?
Maybe you could also try more variety because while your style is great and you seem to have perfected it, the huge landscapes with tiny characters are getting a bit samey? I don't want to sound harsh, maybe it's also time to get out of your comfort zone? Using more dramatic viewing angles, more close-ups, different color palette than pastels, black & white?
Don't doubt yourself in any case.
That's my point actually. And i always always seem like a douchebag on gaf cause most of the time i have an attitude and i don't think like everyone else, but mostly it's cause i feel humble about my work that i often seem cocky. Cause, see, you're telling me you know you're doing good pictures after some of the comments you had and it's ok if you don't always have them. Well no, it doesn't work like that for me. Every art is a challenge and a quest. Everytime i don't know if it's going to be good or if i'll fuck up. It's not about my general skill and it's not about needing some reassuring about it. It's about each art. Each one of them is a risk and i'm always afraid i fucked up with one. Or i missed the target and it won't appeal to the fans of the game. Each art is meant to reach a group of fans.
I don't need people to come here and tell me i'm great etc.. What make me happy is when people are happy about a game i chose. It's really the kind of interaction i'm waiting from gaf. Did i chose a significant part of the game, did i make its mood and spirit alive in my work. This is really about that all the time. And i,m really serious about it. This is my work, really. I've started to be way more varied in the game picked. I mean it goes from lufia to arkham knight in a week. Not everyone on the net is paying homage to such an extended part of the game history. That's what should be attracting comments here. My paintings are not some sort of landscape skill demonstration. They mean something to a certain culture.. That part is really underappreciated.
And again, yeah people tend to be used to something on the net and say nothing about it, and act like it's a given, and not all the time thoughts and dedication, and risks. I'm a douchebag when i just say "well don't be like that people, say something" cause i shouldn't be lecturing my audience right. Small things make you hated by people in this world.
Keep it up, I always always aways check this thread when it gets bumped. I really admire your skill.
Thx!
That is absolutely wonderful, Orioto. I wish the game had a tenth of this direction, and it is a fucking beautiful game.
As for the perceived lack of interest, I can understand that must be frustrating when you're pouring a piece of yourself into something. But just keep it in context: this thread is an epic success in comparison with ANY other non-OT thread on this board. I would echo the sentiment though that, while you're work is consistently tremendous - maybe it has gotten too... consistent? Would be nice to see you mix up your style a bit. Just a thought.
As always, keep up the wonderful work, GAF is a better place because of it.
Thx! I think that part in the game is pretty poetic to actually! I was inspired by it!
The thread seems an epic success cause it has many views and posts but in the last 4-5 years it's been 60% of my own posts lol!
Now about my work being not varied enough.
Well, this is me i'm sorry. You can't ask artists to become other artists, and people do that often. My work is pretty amazingly varied compared to other artists actually, in the type of worlds and mood i depict. Find artists with such a range of colors and tone on internet, and bring it to me. I'm sorry i defend what i do, so i'll again look like a douchebag to judgemental gaf. Also about Koopakid said, i'm constantly leaving the confort zone. See, i can say people are douchebagy to, in all friendship there. They are not doing the work, they don't know the sweat, the doubts, the challenges, they don't know about all that. And they tell you "exit the confort zone". There is NO confort zone for me. People judge things with a simplifying glass and are like yeah the art are the same cause they are landscape with tiny characters. That's what i do, and those landscape are super different, and they are the art. A tiny character in a colorful forest with monet inspirations and a tiny character in an industrial design are realllllly different work, and the tiny character part, i don't give a shit about it. The landscapes are what makes my art. And it's incredibly varied, AND i've been trying things that i never did before in the last months, more cityscapes, more complex compositions that i'm struggling with most of the time.
So yeah you're constantly trying to push yourself, always stressed about being able to finish a piece, and people are like "maybe you should exit your confort zone". Sorry again to defend my work in such an horrible douchy attitude.
Now about the sales question. It's been dead, maybe 40% less since i stopped the limit. Cause people have no reason to buy anything now, if there is not the threat of it disappearing of course. I was thinking the old popular art would bring regular sales to compensate but it's strangely not the case.
So the patreon should have been a nice bonus to help me but now it's making up for what i lack with the sales. Which creates a stressful situation cause patreon is a gift but also a source of stress for an artist. I mean when you post a new art there, it won't bring more patreons, obviously cause only patrons see it, BUT each time, your new art will be received by 1 or 2 people being all "haaa yeah i don't like it, i'll stop supporting you". The idea that your work can make you lose support somewhat is kinda horrible for an artist. It's like playing a videogame of life with perma death..
So yeah to summarize, i'd like you people to realize it's not a given. I'm not a douchebag gifted artist who does his thing easily and wants more and more attention out of it. It's never easy, it's never certain, it's always a fucking adventure, every art. So it's nice when, even when i did something less good, somoene like it, or say something nice, cause it makes me feel a little less shitty about it. People don't realize how much somoene invest himself in something like that..