So right?
I always chose Aeris to join my party in Final Fantasy 7, purely because I like the character within the story.
For gameplay reasons, I quickly learn to regret it.
Does playing flashback Cloud as he fights a dragon with Sephiroth count? Guy does like 4 damage to it and dies instantly while sephy basically 1-2 shots it.
Roy sucks and definitely needs coddling. But, he's not weak. He still dishes out decent damage and completely FUCKS UP the final boss. He's a little Lord that can do big things.She's useless, but Roy is worse. He's a Lord who can't evolve that gets temporarily op with the binding blade and if you happen to use all of its uses (30 I think) he becomes useless again.
Speaking of FE, all the jeigans bar Seth and Titania are usually very, very bad. But well, there's a lot of bad chars in general in those games, too many to count. I remember the duo Micaiah Sothe was a mess, specially in a game with Ike and his troupe and all the op animal chars of that saga...
In a thread about weak RPG characters, why would people assume it was about something unrelated to the thread?I figured anyone would be able to tell this is obviously from a character perspective. Dude is a loser.
I would almost say that Edward is a joke character. I recall the game framing him as a loser who swept Teleh's daughter off her feet. His ability is to be a coward.
In a thread about weak RPG characters, why would people assume it was about something unrelated to the thread?
Quina - FF9
Or maybe it was because I never really understood the blue mage stuff.
Edward in IV is the correct answer.
And Kimahri of course.
I'll give a Final Fantasy VI analysis since that's the most recent great RPG I played through with this problem. I'm gonna have to give this award to Umaro, a character so bad I'm not sure he falls into the category of 'joke character' or not. He has practically no story; he's an abominable snowman who wants to kill you, and then once you kick his ass he inexplicably decides he's your friend.
He has pretty good physical damage, however that's it. You can't control him, you can't teach him spells, he's completely unreliable and has no utility. There's moments his shtick is useful sure, like there is for anyone in this game, but they are super few and far between. He's just bad. Sorry buddy.
Runner up would be Cyan, which sucks because unlike Umaro, as a character Cyan is awesome.
He's got a fantastic backstory and maybe the biggest motivation of any of the cast members to really want to give Kefka what's coming to him. He also has a great design too; a chiseled, bad-ass samurai who has mastered the blade and seen some shit with it. The problem is, he sucks. Once you get to the point in the game where you have the option to not have Cyan in your party, you're at the point where he's fallen off a cliff in terms of viability. Bushido seems like it would be cool, but it's just annoying in reality. Wait 12-years to charge your attack to get a super underwhelming move that literally every character in the game can do better damage than instantly, oh boy! Thankfully, with the esper system in FFVI you can give Cyan some utility spells so he's not completely worthless, but boy is he close.
He's not even particularly weak story wise compared to the majority of other options. But I see your point. Majority of other posts in the thread are about gameplay so forgot the OP said that.You may want to reread the first sentence in the OP
He's not even particularly weak story wise compared to the majority of other options. But I see your point. Majority of other posts in the thread are about gameplay so forgot the OP said that.
I'll give a Final Fantasy VI analysis since that's the most recent great RPG I played through with this problem. I'm gonna have to give this award to Umaro, a character so bad I'm not sure he falls into the category of 'joke character' or not. He has practically no story; he's an abominable snowman who wants to kill you, and then once you kick his ass he inexplicably decides he's your friend.
He has pretty good physical damage, however that's it. You can't control him, you can't teach him spells, he's completely unreliable and has no utility. There's moments his shtick is useful sure, like there is for anyone in this game, but they are super few and far between. He's just bad. Sorry buddy.
Runner up would be Cyan, which sucks because unlike Umaro, as a character Cyan is awesome.
He's got a fantastic backstory and maybe the biggest motivation of any of the cast members to really want to give Kefka what's coming to him. He also has a great design too; a chiseled, bad-ass samurai who has mastered the blade and seen some shit with it. The problem is, he sucks. Once you get to the point in the game where you have the option to not have Cyan in your party, you're at the point where he's fallen off a cliff in terms of viability. Bushido seems like it would be cool, but it's just annoying in reality. Wait 12-years to charge your attack to get a super underwhelming move that literally every character in the game can do better damage than instantly, oh boy! Thankfully, with the esper system in FFVI you can give Cyan some utility spells so he's not completely worthless, but boy is he close.
Nobody is going to mention Khimari from FFX I guess?
Quina - FF9
Or maybe it was because I never really understood the blue mage stuff.
The hell...according to who?
You jest.
Morgana is the one and only healer you need in Persona 5.
In terms of what?
He's Magikarp not really what the OP is saying. The on-foot archers and most of the tinydungeon party members that aren't Karna are what the topic's OP seems to be describing
Does Hope count as a joke character?
I wouldn't count it.Does playing flashback Cloud as he fights a dragon with Sephiroth count? Guy does like 4 damage to it and dies instantly while sephy basically 1-2 shots it.
Quina - FF9
Or maybe it was because I never really understood the blue mage stuff.
Anyone who says Edward is wrong. He stays for a short ammount of time and can one shot the enemies he encounters. Meanwhile, Edge is pure trash unless you want to throw your whole inventory away.
Maybe in raw combat terms, sure, but the utility of a thief puts her ahead of a ton of units. Your team is better off fielding a non-fighter with utility over the twelfth kinda-good-fighter any day of the week.
FE has plenty of useless combat units you could list instead, though. Like Clive in Echoes, for a recent example, or to stick with FE6, Wendy.
I'm enjoying all the people dunking on Hope getting shut down.
Nice thing about that though is
Sue from Grandia, effectively. There's no point to invest any magic in her, because
she leaves part of the way through the game anyway.
Probably because the best child character in FF came a game before.I consistently feel baffled by the people hating on Hope storywise. He is one of the few realistic child characters in JRPGs and has a solid character arc with good development. It helps that he is the best mage in the game and by extension probably the best character.
I remember Chrono Cross having some pretty bad party members notably Sneff, Luccia and Korcha.
Huh? Eiko is pretty good. She's no Quina but she's no Garnet either and I'd rather have her than Vivi any day.I'm gonna go with Garnet in FF9, but you could also add Eiko.
Nah, that forcing you to sleep stuff is a mess, but he is very useful in combat.
Has anyone said Meg from Rafiant Dawn yet?
Because some maps are easier to beat if you leave her out and fight one man short.