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Is this leak really reliable though?
What would drive the ps4 sales like that?
Golden PS4 and Crash.
What would drive the ps4 sales like that?
Mat not gonna be happy
Until stock is really sorted, is it? At least it's higher than Xbox I guess.
Speaking of Xbox, the eff is going on there.
It's really flailing.
Doubt Crash had a huge impact in hardware sales. Though it will do great.If Crash caused a proper hardware bump for PS4 it would be delicious.
Piper Jaffray analyst Michael Olson says June NPD video game software sales were down 5% year-over-year due to a tough compare with Activision Blizzard's (ATVI) Overwatch the prior year. Top titles for June included Nintendo's (NTDOY) ARMS and Tekken 7 from Bandai Namco, Olson tells investors in a research note. He notes that for the June quarter, Activision results are down 42% and Take-Two (TTWO) NPD results are down 12% relative to his expectations for down 33% and down 3%, respectively. He remains comfortable with his estimates, however, and keeps Overweight ratings on Activision, Electronic Arts (EA) and Take-Two.
Assuming numbers are accurate/legit for Switch
So from March to June
World-Wide Month of March -2.74 million
US April to June - 660.7 thousands
Japan April to June 474.8 thousands
Not including the rest of the world from April to June it adds up to 3.87 million.
Easily above 4 million if the rest of the world is included.
Is this leak really reliable though?
Exact data like this is very easy to trace back, but hey this data is amazing!
Crash Bandicoot most likely, it's why I predicted 325k for PS4.What would drive the ps4 sales like that?
Speaking of Xbox, the eff is going on there.
It's really flailing.
Can't wait for Splatoon to do 3.5 million this month then!
(I'm kidding. I think)
Awesome, having actual data is far more interesting of a discussion (if true).
Based on those figures we get the following for the US in 2016 for PS4/XB1/S
5,101,208 PS4 2016
4,733,032 XB1 2016
Don't know if it's great for both or really bad for one of them, but it seems rather close-ish.
What would drive the ps4 sales like that?
Wish we can get crash numbersIf Crash caused a proper hardware bump for PS4 it would be delicious.
Xbox One YTD is down 11% YoY, PS4 up 13%.
Pro is helping PS4 sales here. Using that 1 in 5 comment from Sony, we can assume ~350K Pro's have been sold this year, leaving 1.43M PS4's for a 9% drop from 2016. Looks like the general theme of the year will be XB1 down until maybe November, PS4 up until November at least.
Like, I'm having trouble thinking of a scenario where Xbox One 2017 isn't below 4M units.
But hey, maybe this means 2018 will be a better year for XB1 thanks to X?
Wish we can get crash numbers
No gears or halo plus a $500 upgraded console against a surging PS4 and supply constraint switch, it's definitely looking a bit cloudy for the old X box. Gonna be a very interesting holiday season.
The estimation thread actually quite accurate.Oh that is a juicy leak.
PS4
Jan: 210,665
Feb: 398,407
Mar: 396,726
Apr: 206,247
May: 187,182
Jun: 381,196
XB1
Jan: 157,545
Feb: 215,418
Mar: 243,514
Apr: 109,950
May: 109,130
Jun: 153,389
Switch
Mar: 910,545
Apr: 280,897
May: 165,038
Jun: 215,582
Thanks go to jal356
You can only go so long without hardly any major exclusives on your system. No, exclusives are not the end all be all, but when you have PS4 absolutely surging with exclusive content this year, and MS barely showing up in that regard it's bound to catch up with you.
They really need to figure their 1st party situation out
Looks like 2017 will actually be the peak year for PS4
Looks like 2017 will actually be the peak year for PS4
Wooooow
Finally leaks. It's weird that all the leaks stopped just when MS stopped winning...
Looks like 2017 will actually be the peak year for PS4
From my previous post, and what I have for 360/PS3 at the same point in time
XB1: 16.84M (+9%)
PS4: 19.29M (+52%)
360: 15.51M
PS3: 12.72M
Seeing as no new post has been made, maybe One X should have been a new gen. XB1 performing worse than XBX did in 05.
Jan: 244,000
Feb: 215,000
Mar: 232,000
Apr: 158,000
May: 134,000
Jun: 173,000
Jul: 135,000
Aug: 138,000
Sep: 129,000
Oct: 115,000
Nov: 202,000
Dec: 420,000
I just find it insane how XB1 can go from selling on par with 360 in their 3rd years
XB1 2016: 4.733M
360 2008: 4.735M
to going below XBX in the 4th year YTD June.
XB1 2017 YTD: 989K
XBX 2005 YTD: 1.156M
They could drop the support for X1 somewhere along the line... They've done it before, OG to 360. Phill could simply said X1 is dragging them then And the fans would absolutely be okay with it.From my previous post, and what I have for 360/PS3 at the same point in time
XB1: 16.84M (+9%)
PS4: 19.29M (+52%)
360: 15.51M
PS3: 12.72M
Seeing as no new post has been made, maybe One X should have been a new gen. XB1 performing worse than XBX did in 05.
Jan: 244,000
Feb: 215,000
Mar: 232,000
Apr: 158,000
May: 134,000
Jun: 173,000
Jul: 135,000
Aug: 138,000
Sep: 129,000
Oct: 115,000
Nov: 202,000
Dec: 420,000
I just find it insane how XB1 can go from selling on par with 360 in their 3rd years
XB1 2016: 4.733M
360 2008: 4.735M
to going below XBX in the 4th year YTD June.
XB1 2017 YTD: 989K
XBX 2005 YTD: 1.156M
Golden PS4 and Crash.
Now that we actually have numbers for the year, this is my updated prediction for full year 2017 from 2016.
PS4: 5.05M (-1%)
XB1: 3.95M (-17%)
I believe 2H 2017 for PS4 will drop -7% from 2016 thanks to a weaker November and December, and Xbox One 2H 2017 will be down -18% thanks to the One X only releasing in November, while One S launched in August.
December not even being double January? lol things were pretty different 12 years ago
Did you take the Knack 2 bump into consideration though for PS4. Knack 2 will push PS4 up year over year.
January to June 2017
PS4: 1,780,423
Xbox One: 988,946
Switch:1,572,062
I don't think that the 2h will be weaker with GTS, COD WW2, Destiny 2 and Battlefront 2.Now that we actually have numbers for the year, this is my updated prediction for full year 2017 from 2016.
PS4: 5.05M (-1%)
XB1: 3.95M (-17%)
I believe 2H 2017 for PS4 will drop -7% from 2016 thanks to a weaker November and December, and Xbox One 2H 2017 will be down -18% thanks to the One X only releasing in November, while One S launched in August.
Also, this is the LTD I have for each console, rounded.
PS4: 19.29M
XB1: 16.84M
Gap is 2.45M
That's what, a 1:1.8 ratio Xbo/PS4 for '17 so far?
Damn, and this in NA, so I'm guessing WW looks even worse.
So if I didn't screw up the maths
PS4 after June 2016 : 1,580,163
PS4 after June 2017 : 1,780,423
Add the fact the PS4 is also up YoY in Japan and a probable price cut this autumn for both slim and pro models, and you maye have a good surprise at the end of the year. Will the decline expected by Sony (from 20M to 17M shipped for the fiscal year) really happen ?
Always looks better if you lower expectation then exceed them in the end, looks better for investors (though it's not how it really works I reckon).
They recently got a white PS4 Slim and there's DQXI coming out soon which should push it a lot.
But yeah it's rather strange that expected to ship/sell less this year when it's already well ahead of last year so 22-24m incoming?
Damn, Xbox One is dead so far this year. Almost as dead as the Xbox One exclusive output these days.
You need to compare April-June to get a comparison for FY, which is what the FY17/18 guidance on 17m shipped units is for.
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