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The Shape of Water - Guillermo del Toro

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DieNgamers

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Very very cool! I like that the scope seems to be more intimate. More akin to Pan's Labyrinth in a way. I didn't watch the whole trailer, btw. Maybe this should be a warning: It shows a bit much!

Looks lovely, though. <3
 
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Nightfall

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Trailers looks amazing! I love Guillermo's visual style.
But come on, that is so clearly Abe. He's probably called Sabe Apien.

Abe's my favorite character from Hellboy and it's cool to see a film that so clearly pays homage to him, even if it isn't him.

But maybe he'll pull a Kojima. Since those two are so close.
 
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Extra Sauce

Member
So after talking up a million projects that go nowhere for a decade, Del Toro decided to go the opposite way and sneak release his new movie? What a twist.
 
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HotHamBoy

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Pai Pai Master said:
This is so weird, it's almost exactly like Abe Sapien
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No, clearly this is a spiritual-sequel to Creature From The Black Lagoon.

"The Amazons worshipped him"

Lovely concept.

creature_from_the_black_lagoon.jpg
 
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dinoroar

Banned
Man my heart stopped when people were saying on the first page this was an Abe movie. It's just a fish man movie guys!

Sounds cool anyway. I will skip the trailer and maybe just look for a fishy screenshot.
 
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Plasticine

Member
Yeah. This is definitely drawing heavily from the Creature from the Black Lagoon. Del Toro is just making the amorous intentions of the Gil-Man a little less one sided.
 
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EverythingShiny

Member
God I love Michael Shannon. I was so excited when I heard he was working with GDT. Michael Stuhlbarg is in this, too. Mini Boardwalk reunion!

Also, Doug Jones works with GDT a lot. He was the fawn in Pan's Labyrinth, among other characters. I wouldn't read anything into that at all.
 
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jett

D-Member
More Del Toro weirdness. I'll give it a chance (at some point), although Crimson Peak fucking sucked and I wasn't a fan of Pacific Rim. I feel indifferent to this trailer overall.

There are some really odd parallels to Abe Sapien and this creature. Not just the monster design itself, but there's also vertical tank design and feeding it eggs.

Extra Sauce said:
So after talking up a million projects that go nowhere for a decade, Del Toro decided to go the opposite way and sneak release his new movie? What a twist.
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Sneak release what? This is coming out in December. Apparently he's been talking about it on Twitter. Nobody cared it seems.
 
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HotHamBoy

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Pai Pai Master said:
Yeah lol but GDT is so close to the Hellboy property that it's hard not to make the association...either way the film looks really lovely.
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True, but as a lover of horror films and movie monsters GDT would certainly have been super into Creature before Hellboy.

BTW, if any of you haven't seen Creature or want to see it again, the 3D Blu Ray is phenomenal. Those old 3D movies have incredible depth and pop-out and now they are restored and lose the Red/Blue filter.

I watched it on Gear VR in the virtual theater and it blew me away with how cool it was.

jett said:
More Del Toro weirdness. I'll give it a chance (at some point), although Crimson Peak fucking sucked and I wasn't a fan of Pacific Rim. I feel indifferent to this trailer overall.
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His English-Language movies tend to suck but his Spanish-Language films are brilliant. This movie, despite being in English, seems wayyyy closer to his Spanish-language films in tone and scope.
 
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Anung

Un Rama
Looks wonderful. I'd recommend watching about half the trailer to get an idea on what it's like as it shows way too much.
 
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Doctor Decimate

Member
it looks nice and i'll watch it but i don't know that i trust del toro to sell the emotional connection the movie seems to hinge on

Kensation said:
Well, that certainly was most of the movie.
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Dubbedinenglish said:
Showed too much of the movie
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i too am upset the trailer spoiled such radical, unforeseen plot twists as "those people keeping the creature in captivity are bad" and "that girl helps the creature escape captivity"
 
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jett

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HotHamBoy said:
True, but as a lover of horror films and movie monsters GDT would certainly have been super into Creature before Hellboy.

BTW, if any of you haven't seen Creature or want to see it again, the 3D Blu Ray is phenomenal. Those old 3D movies have incredible depth and pop-out and now they are restored and lose the Red/Blue filter.



His English-Language movies tend to suck but his Spanish-Language films are brilliant. This movie, despite being in English, seems wayyyy closer to his Spanish-language films in tone and scope.
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You could say the same thing about the Crimson Peak trailers.

I enjoyed his Hellboys but really Pan's Labyrinth is the only great movie he has made.
 
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Plasticine

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HotHamBoy said:
True, but as a lover of horror films and movie monsters GDT would certainly have been super into Creature before Hellboy.
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His love for the Gil-Man runs deep

AV Club Interview said:
The first time he noticed a movie monster
Guillermo Del Toro: I think the earliest time was when I saw the Gill-man in Creature From The Black Lagoon. That shot of the Gill-man swimming under Julie Adams, which was at the same time for a kid my age, mysteriously sexy, because I didn’t know what sexy was. [Laughs.] And enchanting and magical and powerful in a way that only monster movies can be. Still, to this day, I think it’s the perfect creature suit. In the history of film, there are two perfect creature suits: that and the Xenomorph in Alien.

The A.V. Club: What do you think makes it so perfect?

GDT: It’s just the marriage of the performer, the design, and the director. The way the environment allows them to exist is amazing. Creature From The Black Lagoon, the way they shot it, where they shot it, who shot it, everything is perfect. These are perfect occurrences. And Ridley Scott shooting Alien the way he shot it. The performer, Bolaji Badejo, is just amazing.

AVC: In the book, in Bleak House, you have a suit from the original movie.

GDT: It’s not an original, it’s a reproduction, but it’s a very good one. I collect very few original pieces. I have original pieces from my movies, because I know the director [Laughs.], but other than that I really have amazing tributes and reproductions. Like Adam Savage from Mythbusters is another prop fan, and he’s a prop-maker by profession, and we trade props. He trades me an original thing from Hellboy for a reproduction of the Blade Runner gun, for example.

The first time he realized film monsters were designed
GDT: When I opened my first Famous Monsters Of Filmland and I saw, I think it was, I’m almost completely certain, an interview with John Chambers or photos of John Chambers with the makeup of Planet Of The Apes, and that was the big moment where I realized, “Of course they’re not apes!” Up to that point my child brain just said, “Yeah, they’re talking monkeys.” And then I saw, oh my God, these are prosthetics that someone makes them. Shortly thereafter, I proceeded to apply plaster to my face and lose my eyebrows.

The first time he designed his own monster
GDT: Well, the first drawing I made was the Creature from the Black Lagoon. I drew him, for some reason, eating ice cream. I have no good [Laughs.] answer, but they were two things that I thought were very important in my life—the ice cream and the Creature. [Laughs.] And it hasn’t changed to this day. Those are still two very important things in my life.
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So, yeah. Just going by the poster and trailer, it seems like he distilled the swimming scene from Creature and made it a feature length movie.
 
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ResidentWeevil13

Member
Nice. I thought that trailer looked really promising. I've been kind of disappointed with Del Toro as of late. Crimson Peak and Pacific Rim aren't terrible, but he can do so so much better.

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Fancy Clown said:
And Devil's Backbone is just as good imo
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Agreed. After rewatching it again recently, I may even prefer it over Pan's Labyrinth.
 
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Jombie

Member
This looks so fantastic, it's basically the Creature from the Black Lagoon remake I've always wanted. I'm glad that del Toro seems to be back to making a more personal, quiet film a la Devil's Backbone and Pan's. Crimson Peak was such a letdown.
 
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lightskintwin

Banned
Jombie said:
This looks so fantastic, it's basically the Creature from the Black Lagoon remake I've always wanted. I'm glad that del Toro seems to be back to making a more personal, quiet film a la Devil's Backbone and Pan's. Crimson Peak was such a letdown.
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Universal should've gotten Guillermo Del Toro to head their Universal Monsters Cinematic Universe.
 
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android

Theoretical Magician
While I get that Fox doesn't have Hellboy rights....cmon this is Del Toro making an Abe movie without them. Him, Doug Jones, the eggs (Abe loves rotten ones) her introducing him to music (Abe's an audiophile), even the room and tank look similar. It's like Del Toro said fuck it, I'm doing it.
 
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Fersis

It is illegal to Tag Fish in Tag Fishing Sanctuaries by law 38.36 of the GAF Wildlife Act
I'll watch anything with Michael Shannon in it...
(lol Man of Steel)
 
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metsallica

Member
android said:
While I get that Fox doesn't have Hellboy rights....cmon this is Del Toro making an Abe movie without them. Him, Doug Jones, the eggs (Abe loves rotten ones) her introducing him to music (Abe's an audiophile), even the room and tank look similar. It's like Del Toro said fuck it, I'm doing it.
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wait are you sure i'm not crazy
 
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JasonUresti

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android said:
While I get that Fox doesn't have Hellboy rights....cmon this is Del Toro making an Abe movie without them. Him, Doug Jones, the eggs (Abe loves rotten ones) her introducing him to music (Abe's an audiophile), even the room and tank look similar. It's like Del Toro said fuck it, I'm doing it.
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No this is Del Toro doing a fish man movie, a concept he loves, and incorporating some elements from the Abe Sapien take on the character, which GDT was a fan in particular of.

Doug Jones is in pretty much every GDT film.
 
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Bjoern the Smexy

Member
I'm totally honest:
This trailer is totally giving me Bioshock vibes.
I want Del Toro to direct a Bioshock movie.
Please :(

EDIT: I see I'm not the only one.
 
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