Oh, I got it now. Makes sense.
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Senate Republicans to make another attempt at Obamacare repeal
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Oh, I got it now. Makes sense.
Considering the reaction to this healthcare stuff since the beginning, not very many are believing them here.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
The support for this stuff is very low.
UberTag
Member
If their loved ones die, they'll just blame Obama.
If the skinny repeal bill passed and the House did not amend the skinny repeal bill, they could've passed it and sent it to the White House without another Senate vote.
KojiKnight
Member
It's not just voters though, it's the mega donors. If during midterms republicans are suddenly gettings millions less in donations it could have a pretty big effect.
Imperfected
Member
They've been steadily losing public support for the repeal with every attempt, so it seems they long ago surpassed the point where their propaganda is actually effective. They're just steadily eroding the positivity bias they went in with at this point.
demosthenes
Member
Waiting for Trump to say wouldn't it be better to do away with the Senate so the president can make decisions for the country.
RPGCrazied
Member
And Trump thinks he is helping when he talks to people and all he says is "Its been 7 years, can you believe it?"
That will surely pass it.
That will surely pass it.
No, they would have had another vote on the bill before sending it to the house. The vote that failed was just an amendment vote to insert the skinny repeal language
I thought the last vote they overrode and rewrote the AHCA and it became the American Healthcare Freedom Act? That doesn't count as a bill?
Didn't stop him this time. Plus, again, I feel McCain was either a spite vote, or was just there because he could be the "no" vote other Republicans were too afraid to be without any of the repercussions the ones seeking additional terms would face.
He's voted for worse. McCain's not against this, we just got lucky his agenda coincided with him delaying this.
There is that but I have no doubt he hates him because he's black and powerful as well. His racism is on full display when it comes to situations like the Central Park 5. So I never had any doubt he's a racist as well. Remember Trump was pushing the racist birth certificate bs long before that dinner.
Chezzymann
Member
They literally have to get collins or murkowski to say yes since McCain is recovering though. There's only 99 senators now. Not sure how this would pass.
UberTag
Member
The media could ask Trump pointed questions about the specifics of any of these bills and he would not be able to answer a single one of them.
Can't sell something you don't even want to bother understanding in the first place.
Imperfected
Member
They haven't repackaged it as the American Apple Pie and Eagles Healthcare Patriotism Act of Freedom and Justice for All Act, yet?
The vote would have erased the AHCA and replaced it with skinny repeal but you still need to vote on passing the bill, not just amending it
Here is a better explanation:
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/time/4872721/health-care-vote-senate-process/?source=dam
Step 4 is what you guys are skipping over
Just more depressing confirmation that hate is, in fact, easier and more powerful than love. As long as colored people suffer, white people are dying for a good cause.
McCain explained his vote, so it's no mystery or anything. He voted more about the manner in which the entire thing has been done, the behind-closed doors meetings, the lack of any hearings or meetings, putting the entire thing in the hands of about 5-6 Senators, the midnight vote, etc. It was his way of basically telling McConnell to go fuck himself with the way he's continued to do this in the more 'improper' way possible.
This is why we need to flip some seats in the Senate(as unlikely as that is in 2018). This will never die until they lose control of both the House and the Senate. Even then, it probably won't die fully, but if the voters punish them by voting out people who are willing to go along with this shit then maybe they will finally get the message.
Until then, expect some form of repeal to be constantly lurching the American people from crisis to crisis.
Until then, expect some form of repeal to be constantly lurching the American people from crisis to crisis.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
A part of me wonders how much of this is true.
Mr. Giggles
Member
Lol again.
This is the new benghazi, I can feel it in my bones.
This is the new benghazi, I can feel it in my bones.
Unfortunately this seems to be the case far too often
Are you not familiar with Chemo?
UberTag
Member
If hate truly is easier and more powerful than love, let's hope that hatred of Trump and the Republican party can drive people to the polls in record numbers next year.
Don't you hate it when democracy gets in the way of being a tyrant?
Jack Scofield
Member
Doesn't Trump realize that a 51 vote majority will benefit Democrats once they take control of the Senate again? Does he really not see the long term implications of such a change?
Your preferred party is not always going to be in power, dumbass.
Your preferred party is not always going to be in power, dumbass.
He doesn't care about the long term implications of this or what it means for Republicans. He wants instant gratification. He wants to destroy a black man's legislative legacy.
Jmanunknown
Member
This is why its so important to Trump and republicans currently. Obama and the ACA are an after thought right now. Its tax cuts for the wealthy or nothing at all. They would watch the country burn to the ground if they could get tax cuts.
For Trump it's about Obama. For Congress it's about the tax cuts.
Did Alex Ross draw this?Can't let you do that Trump
ChubbyHuggs
Member
Bailouts for Members of Congress?
We are living in some strange times, when America, the bastion of democracy, has a President that is fretting about how freedoms are being threatened by a minority in government, and the only way to ensure the safety of the American people, and protect freedom is to destroy the democratic process and ensure abuses of executive power can always be obeyed. And a lot of people enthusiastically voted for this, while far too many people didn't even think it was worth going out to vote against and so stayed at home.
At this rate never or rarely. Print media might but people care even less about that and stupid as hell right-wingers are just going to call everything that isn't Fox "the leftist liberal communist agenda".
Sweeney Tom
Banned
A Reddit post was wrong? *gasp*
LinkAndEpona
Banned
This is gonna happen for the entire time he is President, kinda depressing
Username1198
Member
What successful legislation has "dear" "leader" even passed? Anything, I can't recall.
Trump would just record the phone call and hand it over to Fox News to air so he can have the pleasure of being able to humiliate Obama in return for the jokes he made at Trump's expense. Obama owes Trump fucking nothing, never mind an apology.
I have this vision in my head of Trump bursting into tears and sobbing into the phone, "THAT'S ALL I WANTED!"
EdibleKnife
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Particularly after years of Trump touting and never apologizing for the birther movement.