You're one of the very few I've ever heard say that, but hey if it floats your boat.
You must not run in the FGC lol.
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Capcom's difficult position
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You're one of the very few I've ever heard say that, but hey if it floats your boat.
You must not run in the FGC lol.
UnemployedVillain
Member
I don't think you quite understand how sales targets are set, or their significance
What? You're in the minority here lol. Most people actually agree the game looks and animates very well. It's one of its strong points. The stage, sound and music design is pretty high quality too.
DR2K
Banned
They should if the direction they want is irrelevancy in the AAA market.
Jawmuncher
Member
Yeah. The biggest complaints on SFV graphically are
Abigails Proportions
The constant clipping for things like hair
Kens face on the character select.
Abigails Proportions
The constant clipping for things like hair
Kens face on the character select.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
I mean, they did it to themselves with SFV. Didn't it basically launch as nothing more than a barren af early access game?
Not sure what the issue was with RE7. Maybe baggage or backlash from 6?
Not sure what the issue was with RE7. Maybe baggage or backlash from 6?
The game is considered to look pretty great with some glaring exceptions (Ken's face, Cammy's airthrow, Akuma's neckbeard, Alex's french fry hair). It's not like MvCI that looks kind of mediocre overall with a few real shitty areas.
NeonZ
Member
Monster Hunter's sales didn't explode until going to portables though, and Monster Hunter Tri, which came after that explosion, although selling better than the previous console games, still didn't approach the portable ones at all. Now, the sales hadn't grown for a while, which is probably what led them to making MHW for a different userbase, but this big growth will have to come from Western markets and it will have to make up for inevitable sales drop they'll have in Japan.
I'm actually still surprised elements like the monster's (lack of) hitstun (outside of specific conditions) and most movesets seemed to remain similar to the previous titles - basically the core of the gamplay is still there. If they're really intending to court a more "mainstream" western audience you'd think they'd go with more standard controls and damage system, but in spite of streamlining other aspects, the core of the gameplay is still the same Monster Hunter that often seems to be met with criticism outside of its established audience.
I guess they hope presentation and "home console" will allow them to reach a largely untapped market in the west that haven't even tried the games yet, making the franchise blow up in the West, without changing its core, but that's a very risky bet.
SinCityAssassin
Member
I don't think Vivendi is allowed to buy into Japan.
Jawmuncher
Member
If this was another Action Titles or they held reviews until after launch I could see that.
However from the get go they made it loud and clear it was something different (With the numerous demo updates). They also had reviews a week out which were all positive.
The only backlash from RE6 would be from fans that prefer the action and passed on RE7 for returning to horror.
I'm almost 100% talking the big picture here. Going on what I know of Capcom's sales expectations and the real opportunity cost in not having a clear future for the franchise on portables I really do doubt it'll be anywhere near a rejuvenation for Capcom or Monster Hunter (which didn't need rejuvenating, but that's beside the point). As NeonZ says it's still, at its core, a Monster Hunter game just with some new QoL features and a snazzy presentation; I don't think Western audiences will really buy into that as, even on PC, there's very little precedent for such games really succeeding.
The main "issue" with RE7 was Capcom's expectations. A semi-classical 8-10 hour survival horror selling near 4m copies in 2017 would be amazing for most other publishers but for Capcom it was a disappointment.
i just don't think it stood out much from the several other immersive horror games out already
Host Samurai
Member
I feel like they've been putting way too much focus on their AAA series. Capcom should consider creating some lower budget 2D games using CPS3 or CPS2 which both have aged like fine wine. A new Final Fight on CPS3 would sell a shit ton if sold for $15-20 on a digital service. There is way too much focus on games with massive budgets. Break it up a bit.
Jawmuncher
Member
capcom best work this gen
nothing could beat this lol
I still think Bengus was paid so little that he purposefully drew like shit as a form of protest.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
"I don't like RE6, therefore I would not buy this game that looks nothing like RE6."
Nah he realized the game needed art as bad as the product so he did what he had to do. Now if this were Alpha 4 or something? He'd step it up.
Nah. That kind of survival horror is not super mainstream. People don't really like being scared or feeling powerless. A hoard of zombies and you have machine guns and suplexes sell more
Actually the real reason is that these are just his sketches. They didn't have time for him to make full work as they rushed the game out before Final Round so it would make the FGC tournament season.
I saw some complaints about first person view (some people claim this is not a true RE, didn't understood the reasoning exactly) and the lack of classic protagonists like Leon , Chris, jill , etc. My brother didn't like the game and the first person view was one of his complaints. And he finished everything else even RE6 ...
Port mh to switch would lead to certain success at least in Japan and I suppose They have ace attorney.
Not as bad as Tekken 7's host of issues which has got a free pass on. Now that was a bad product. At least SFV had character stories whereas Tekken had a couple fights in arcade mode with diabolical endings. Now they are charging $10 for a mini bowling game lol.
Dude I know you're not defending SFV while trashing T7 for missing features.
Jawmuncher
Member
That just makes things even more sad.
Pretty much. The only thing RE7 had going against it was people not liking the shift it gave from titles prior. Especially from the huge influx it got after RE4, 5, and 6.
I don't know how you could even compare T7 and SFV like that. One was clearly a complete game that was maybe a bit disappointing compared to past offerings and one was half a game.
kunonabi
Member
Dont forgot the dithering and wonky npc proportions.
Chindogg, based on your statement it sounds like you're only familiar with the Twitter FGC circles and r/Kappa. SFV-GAF has mostly positive feelings for the game and recognize its highs and lows.
James Scott
Banned
I assume co-op was a major selling point for RE5 and 6.
Baggage of 6 likely didn't help much, tho.
They fixed the dithering.
DryEyeRelief
Member
lol
Well, what I said was directed at someone who tries to shit on SFV while completely ignoring the issues that "his" game does in every thread. The truth is T7 had less content than SFV does at launch and is still missing a lot of QoL stuff after 2 years in the arcades.
It was FAR from complete. Many missing features and modes, input lag still high and awful arcade mode. The netcode issues didn't get sorted out for nearly a month after launch too.
dreamcastmaster
Banned
What Capcom need to do is make ports and collections of thier older good games. Something like a virtual console on all platforms just for Capcom games. Take the usage data from that and make sequels that do not try to be modern and edgy, but colourful, fun and full of character. All of thier biggest mistakes are when they retry to make thier games more, how to say? Adult? Be Capcom, not a wannabe Ubisoft or Activision.
Dithering was actually 99.99% eliminated in the most recent CFN/online network patch (if you look at certain small spots on character models in character select screen you can still see a tiny bit). That large patch came in a year and some change after launch. The game looks ever better than before and still getting good support from Capcom.
If only they communicated more often though. Nearly two months of silence regarding the next update is still a thing that happens.
Going by SFV's planned 5 seasons of support, I'd imagine that any planning for SFVI may start around 2019 or so (similar to how SFV planning supposedly started after SSFIV:AE was finished). Dropping SFV now wouldn't be the best call for the brand, especially not for the FGC.
DalikSkywing
Member
Maybe don't fucking kill one the best franchise you ever had with a ugly shitty reboot from a developer with heavenly input lag as their only career.
AlfredX1990
Banned
I've heard pachinko machines are doing fine
SFV shaky launch is caused by capcom themselves. As for RE7, it was a good game, but I am turned off by the planned dlc that was too close of the actual game release which led me to believe that it could have been included in the full game without them charging since it was already complete.
Futaleufu
Member
If they release it on Steam I'm game
*facepalm*
Here's a picture of me and my wife winning a community award for Combo Breaker, one of the largest FGC events on the planet.
I've been in this community longer than some of you have been alive and believe me what's said in person about this game is a little different than what you see on stream. I don't have a problem with you guys loving a game that you love, but don't fucking tell me that everyone thinks this game's great because believe me there's a very different feeling among players at events.
And the other thing was that Mega Man represented something that Capcom hasn't had in their line up for years: a kid/casual-friendly brand that was cheap to make, had plenty of asset reuse to make for easy yearly releases (or close to it) and was still profitable.
After the likes of Gaist Crusher, EX Troopers and Monster Hunter Stories have all fallen short in being Capcom's next big hit, not to mention the outright failure to really make a dent in the mobile space, it's little wonder to me that Capcom is still struggling. They need something to help with earnings for the rest of the business.
Yup, it sucks. I'm hooking up my dreamcast tomorrow to play Power Stone, Third Strike and Cannon Spike to relive the good old days.
SFV did not have more content at launch hahaha.
Shin K Dash
Member
Congratulations on the award btw
Chaos2Frozen
Member
"I don't like RE6, therefore I would not by this game that looks nothing like RE6 and have good word of mouth."
You don't know that for sure.
Its one of those things that feels right but the truth might surprise you.
DryEyeRelief
Member
I love SFV-GAF
Thanks. I actually teared up a bit. It's weird getting recognized for something you've spent a good part of your life working on.