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[OryoN]

Man, I was holding out hope that Switch's stock issue - for the most part - were resolved. This week's data and next week's would've fully convinced me things were sorted out. Well that hope is lost now, though I'm not surprised.

The sad part is that Splatoon - once again - is artificially limited by its home console. The undesirable Wii U, with its lack of mass appeal, and now; the highly desirable Switch, plagued by stock issues. I believe this game would crush the competition if Switch had - for instance - the install base of the 3DS. I imagine this must be frustrating from Nintendo's perspective as well, seeing all those potential Hardware & Software sales go to waste week after week.

 

[Vena]

From the previous thread, mostly for Nirolak to follow up on mobile and a question I had:

I went to look if any new mobile games had come out, and I see that Sony Aniplex's newest game is Fate/Grand Order, but Magica Madoka.

It's off to a strong start at #3 on the top grossing charts.

Most (all?) of these games are gacha, right? With the general trend on the market slowing its growth, are these titles lateral transitions in the market from competing products or are we seeing a centralization at the top and the charts out of the Top~5-10 becoming smaller and smaller parts of the overall market?

With the way all of these are gacha, it boggles the mind that people can spend this much money on so many different "same thing, different skin" products with imaginary worth. And because of the expect tail off in growth on the mobile market, this means people are moving either laterally or up from older/other products, and leaving behind *huge* investments in gacha for... more gacha.

Which is normal for most big games .
It help PS4 be up YoY so i don't know how much more people expected .

Looking at YoY comparison during its release it seems that helped quite a bit

Sorry on the delay, I had a lot of meetings today.

Anyway, the point wasn't *just* YoY. YoY growth with no added momentum is a fleeting bonus, and with the PS4's more anemic line-up for the remainder of the year you could potentially start seeing very low dips because DQXI ultimately didn't do anything for the "baseline". It's still up in the air if by the end of it all we're even going to see a growth YoY by the end of the year. It moved a lot more software than we expected with a huge attach rate, but impact on hardware was par with the other large launches. And even with holidays, still, the hardware just collapsed right back down.

And come now, you know people anticipated a lot from DQXI for hardware both short and long term. (Had it stayed high, you know we'd have heard all about how much DQXI helped.) And, much as we talk too much about it, MHW in Japan needs more hardware to sell to and DQXI doesn't seem to have helped much. You're not going to see a huge attach rate on that title like DQXI. 3DS, conversely, is on its way out, it has an excuse (that and having actually been a successful platform, of course).

 

[noshten]

ARMS has the lowest percentage drop of all switch software. Clearly it's legs are showing.

This bump was also prior to the announcement of a new character/stage/arms, certainly looks like there will be some legs. Still it's a title that opened lower and thus has a larger possible audience to appeal to as updates come out. As Switch sells more units games like Arms, Zelda, MK8D are certainly not disappearing it's just a question of whether there is enough funds for people to afford several games.
Next week MHXX drops, if Splatoon 2 retains or exceeds 1:1 ratio it means at least a large portion of people bought both Splatoon 2 and a MHXX bundle and there is little money left for more games.
I also think that more ProController sales for Splatoon 2 might be effecting other software. Simply put more people

How far have we come...

Both 3DS and PS4 for DQXI predictions were extremely off I believe ßig will end up the closest to the truth:

[3DS] Dragon Quest XI - 2,040,000
[PS4] Dragon Quest XI - 960,000

I underestimated both PS4/3DS, expecting the Switch version to release at the same time. In the end Switch release being later helped both versions reach far greater audience than I personally anticipated.

Yeah I'm thinking ~2.1 million end of the year for 3DS and ~1.6 million for PS4.

That would be an absolute great year for the 3DS, I was expecting 3DS would be far worse off but MHXX and DQXI timed exclusivity over the Switch have really moved units, couple that with 2DS XL and possibly more revisions. Pokemon U S/M and YW Busters should at the very least allow it to pass 2 million. With performances like this I can see making the same 1.25 million prediction in next year's Precition League. I underestimated how large the market for price sensitive buyers there is and overestimated how quickly Switch would take over. Without "timed exclusivity" for MHXX and DQXI and Switch stock issues I do think 3DS would be way down.

In terms of PS4, it's looking like 1.7-1.8 million is possible right now even without major titles PS4 has maintained a good baseline all the way up to the DQXI launch. The PS4 might not be taking Japan by storm but it could be 20-30% up YoY.

While it's not likely the Switch will surpass the 3DS this year. I do think it is inevitable. I think an important message for the Switch's first year in Japan is how it will outsell the Wii U's first year.

Wii U's LTD: 3.327.876
Switch's LTD: 1.458.308

With December still to come its looking easily achievable.

Yeah with digital I could see Splatoon 2's attach rate being closer to 70% which is insane especially for a shooter in Japan.

Someone bring out the Melee chart

What's interesting is that Arms is selling more the week after the ARMS bundles than the weeks prior to the ARMS bundles as well as having the smallest post Obon switch drop. Perhaps word of mouth is growing or maybe its just statistical noise. I think Nintendo should do a holiday bundle with ARMS as it's a good pack-in title for the Switch. I'd be curious if with the continued free DLC, if ARMS could do more than 300K. Although it is doubtful.

There is so many good games for Nintendo to do holiday bundles for this year. If Arms has 20 fighters by December and has continued to sell decently in Japan/WW - bundles, amiibo and more marketing are not out of the question.
Same with Zelda and its Holiday DLC which no doubt Nintendo would want more people to buy.
MK8D looks the least likely unless they introduce additional paid DLC for it. While Splatoon 2 will sell during the holiday regardless if there is a bundle for it or not.

Yeah Nintendo seems to be prioritizing the North American market. Comparatively the Switch has sold roughly 1.6 million in NA in the same time that 3DS sold ~1 million, DS sold 1.4 million and Wii sold 2.1 million. Keep in mind DS and Wii had holiday seasons under their belt as well. I suspect they are prioritizing the West for a number of reasons:

1. Capturing the Western Market while its hot. Wii U suffered the biggest losses from the NA market. It's also important for future third party support from both Japanese and western developers to have a large western audience. This has been area Nintendo has struggled with a lot in the past. If they can establish a large western audience quickly they could secure some standard 3rd party support from EA, Activision, Ubisoft and Warner Bros.

2. 3DS is a much more active, vibrant and healthy platform in Japan. The 3DS is still doing well and the userbase is still pretty active in the 3DS in Japan compared to the West so they can alleviate some pressure by still supporting the 3DS.

3. Switch is outselling Wii U LTD in its first year in Japan. Switch is also outselling the PS4's first 3 years on the market in its first year. For the first year on the market, it is still getting the message across that this is the next portable device in Japan that 3DS/Vita developers should start developing for.

Zelda and MK8D were definitely the right titles to launch the Switch for in the West. Zelda's attach rate is insane everywhere in the West and MK8D is also pretty much in the same boat. This is the main reason the West was prioritized if their release Schedule was Splatoon 2 -> Zelda BotW -> MK8D they would have needed to prioritize Japan. But knowing that summer vacation July/August is generally bigger in Japan the schedule itself makes sense. I just think they were caught off-guard how big of a hit it would be and as per usual underestimated demand and found out they would not be able to scale up their initial orders until much later.

3DS was sold out in the West at the start of the year due to PokemonGO mania. 3DS family is 1/3 the price of the Switch and has a huge library. Japan has even received major 3rd party titles this year. Sure both DQXI and MHXX were below majority of forum regulars predictions but they are still selling a lot.
3rd Parties like Level 5 are still releasing YW localization in the West and doing quiet well in places like France and Spain. While Pokemon USM should keep the platform active for the holidays. Simply put the price difference between a 2DSXL and Switch remains pretty big and there is still a lot of potential new customers. Hence 2018 was the year I was expecting the real winddown - still 3DS has outperformed my expectations thus far and I think Nintendo would be happy to continue making a cheaper alternative to the Switch without investing into much new software as long as people continue to buy it.

In terms of the support I wasn't expecting much in it's first year thus far it's right on track outside of MGS being brought to a handheld by Konami:

I'm thinking the first 6-12 months the Switch will be the following:

- one full price title from Nintendo
- one or two lower price titles from Nintendo
- one major 3rd Party Japanese game
- between 2-5 smaller Japanese games
- indie titles which are partnered with Nintendo for co-dev or co-marketing
- indie games and ports
- some Ubisoft games
- ports of mainly sport games from Western Pubs
- Minecraft & Skyrim

I'm thinking the Switch might receive a lot of the bigger indie games as ports it's first year. Since a lot of those games are easier for Nintendo to co-market by simply highlighting them on the eShop and featuring them in youtube/directs/treehouse footage.

First year I'm mostly expecting support from Japanese devs, some Ubisoft games. The rest will be mostly the low quality PC ports from the rest of the big publishers of mostly highest selling sports games.

In Japan I would be surprised if Monster Hunter and Yokai Watch game isn't on the Switch by the end of the year. The only reason I can see these not being ready in 2017 is if Level-5 decided to do localization for a WW launch. Yokai Watch is selling very well in certain places like Spain for example. Level-5 needs to make up for the losses in audience they had in Japan. I think the same applies to Capcom except they've already been having success with MH on the 3DS and probably want their newest game to be released WW on the same date. This is something needed nowadays with how information travels.
At some point I think we might also see late ports, I'm thinking something like MGSV Online with 4 player local/online because that's what I've come to expect from Konami. Ports of Japanese games that never made it to a handheld before.

Western support will be based on how well Switch sells and what ports of sports games/shooters sale - I'm not expecting any of the newest AAA multiplats on the Switch in 2017. I do think Ubi might do well on the system, because they have games that traditionally do best on Nintendo systems. Not sure how well sports games translate to a handheld. I know a lot of Europe plays FIFA non-stop but I've no idea how many Europeans want to play the game on the go, on a tablet that allows multiplayer with joycons. The device is currently also the most expensive in Europe so it's the market where it might make the least amount of sense to buy the Switch early. NBA 2K17 is also questionable but I don't know perhaps in the handheld form with local multiplayer these titles might do better than expected - a lot depends on the pricing and expectations. If these games tank expect nothing more

Obviously I think Switch games will fare the worst when stacked up next to Xbox/PS4 graphically so it's a matter of selling this as a "Nintendo Tablet you can plug into your TV". But it's still a device that mostly aimed for Parents and it's not insignificant that the Parential Controls video in youtube has like 3 million views world wide. If Switch manages to sell over 10 million in it's first year than we might actually see more support for the device from the West.
Still it should be very well supported from Japanese devs, Nintendo and probably indies that are able to do well

 

[Chris1964]

Is there any reason to believe that DQXI will not continue to follow the same retail sell through trajectory of DQVIII even with two distinct SKUs?
Will the NSW version be a wild card or another late to the party release?

DQVIII sold 235k in the next 4 weeks. DQXI will be nowhere close to that. It already dropped a lot at a holiday week.

3,5m sales is what looks as the upper limit (2+1,5).

 

[Ōkami]

Everyone on Famitsu is obviously working on issue 1500 so they are unable to update.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

Ooh i'm late.

That Switch figure is actually laughable.

 

[Regiruler]

If Arms has 20 fighters by December and has continued to sell decently in Japan/WW - bundles, amiibo and more marketing are not out of the question.

No way is arms going to have 10 additional fighters by December. The game is only getting it's 2nd 3 months out.

 

[Ōkami]

Well, speak of the devil

https://www.famitsu.com/biz/ranking/

Splatoon 2 at 1m, Switch sales are the same as MC.

 

[Chris1964]

Famitsu Sales: Week 34, 2017 (Aug 14 - Aug 20)

01./01. [3DS] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2017.07.29} (¥5.980) - 93.515 / 1.600.298 <80-100%> (-20%)
02./04. [PS4] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2017.07.29} (¥8.980) - 60.615 / 1.249.077 <80-100%> (-15%)
03./02. [NSW] Splatoon 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980) - 38.642 / 1.013.842 <80-100%> (-56%)
04./03. [3DS] The Snack World: TreJarers <RPG> (Level 5) {2017.08.10} (¥4.800) - 35.959 / 120.247 <60-80%> (-57%)
05./00. [PS4] Dragon Quest X: All in One Package <Dragon Quest X: Mezameshi Itsutsu no Shuzoku Online \ Dragon Quest X: Nemureru Yuusha to Michibiki no Meiyuu Online \ Dragon Quest X: Inishie no Ryuu no Denshou Online> <RPG> (Square Enix) {2017.08.17} (¥4.800) - 16.391 / NEW <60-80%>
06./07. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 11.998 / 594.238 <80-100%> (-14%)
07./06. [3DS] Great Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney 2 - Naruhodou Ryuunosuke no Kakugo <ADV> (Capcom) {2017.08.03} (¥5.800) - 8.253 / 84.100 <60-80%> (-44%)
08./08. [PS4] Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy <Crash Bandicoot \ Crash Bandicoot 2: Cortex Strikes Back \ Crash Bandicoot 3: Warped> <ACT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2017.08.03} (¥4.900) - 7.157 / 36.720 <80-100%> (-27%)
09./05. [PS4] Hitman: The Complete First Season <ADV> (Square Enix) {2017.08.10} (¥7.800) - 6.478 / 24.865 <80-100%> (-65%)
10./10. [3DS] Layton's Mystery Journey: Katrielle and the Millionaire's Conspiracy <ADV> (Level 5) {2017.07.20} (¥4.444) - 5.734 / 113.185 <80-100%> (-23%)
11./11. [3DS] Hey! Pikmin <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.07.13} (¥4.980) - 5.578 / 137.776 <80-100%> (+1%)
12./14. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - Welcome amiibo <ETC> (Nintendo) {2016.11.23} (¥2.700) - 5.088 / 210.422 <80-100%> (+27%)
13./26. [PS4] Gundam Versus # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.07.06} (¥8.200) - 4.769 / 155.053 <80-100%> (+149%)
14./00. [PS4] Dragon's Dogma Online: Season 3 <ACT> (Capcom) {2017.08.17} (¥7.800) - 4.534 / NEW <60-80%>
15./12. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Koko, Dokonan Desu? <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2017.07.20} (¥4.800) - 4.457 / 37.532 <60-80%> (-14%)
16./09. [PS4] Mega Man Legacy Collection 2 <Mega Man 7 \ Mega Man 8 \ Mega Man 9 \ Mega Man 10> <ACT> (Capcom) {2017.08.10} (¥2.990) - 4.110 / 13.480 <40-60%> (-56%)
17./13. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980) - 4.053 / 497.680 <80-100%> (-21%)
18./15. [NSW] Arms <FTG> (Nintendo) {2017.06.16} (¥5.980) - 3.750 / 207.495 <80-100%> (+7%)
19./16. [3DS] Pokemon Sun / Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.11.18} (¥4.980) - 3.712 / 3.804.186 <80-100%> (+18%)
20./18. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.571) - 3.057 / 2.739.583 <80-100%> (+15%)
21./17. [PS4] Minecraft: PlayStation 4 Edition <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2015.12.03} (¥2.400) - 3.031 / 243.920 <80-100%> (+1%)
22./19. [PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition # <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2015.03.19} (¥2.400) - 2.736 / 1.004.121 <80-100%> (+16%)
23./21. [PS4] NieR: Automata <RPG> (Square Enix) {2017.02.23} (¥7.800) - 2.616 / 334.559 <80-100%> (+26%)
24./20. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission X <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.04.27} (¥5.700) - 2.576 / 180.903 <80-100%> (+10%)
25./24. [PS4] Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age <RPG> (Square Enix) {2017.07.13} (¥6.800) - 2.466 / 132.567 <80-100%> (+25%)
26./23. [PS4] Grand Theft Auto V [New Price Edition] <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2015.10.08} (¥4.990) - 2.272 / 284.144 <80-100%> (+15%)
27./30. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch 3: Sukiyaki <RPG> (Level 5) {2016.12.15} (¥4.800) - 2.194 / 738.046 <80-100%> (+32%)
28./28. [PS4] Call of Duty: Black Ops III - Game of the Year Edition <Call of Duty: Black Ops III \ Call of Duty: Black Ops III - Awakening \ Call of Duty: Black Ops III - Eclipse \ Call of Duty: Black Ops III - Descent \ Call of Duty: Black Ops III - Salvation> <ACT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2017.06.29} (¥5.900) - 2.104 / 17.907 <60-80%> (+15%)
29./22. [NSW] 1-2-Switch <ETC> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥4.980) - 1.965 / 213.875 <80-100%> (-4%)
30./27. [WIU] Minecraft: Wii U Edition <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2016.06.23} (¥3.600) - 1.944 / 340.392 <80-100%> (+6%)

Top 30

PS4 - 12
3DS - 11
NSW - 5
PSV - 1
WIU - 1

HARDWARE

+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|System |  This Week |  Last Week |  Last Year |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| 3DS # |     41.175 |     46.348 |     26.735 |  1.249.487 |    863.994 |  23.160.900 |
| PS4 # |     39.970 |     38.015 |     19.053 |  1.215.767 |    875.902 |   5.137.383 |
|  NSW  |     22.154 |     77.146 |            |  1.479.770 |            |   1.479.770 |
| PSV # |      5.420 |      5.038 |     11.086 |    298.267 |    622.350 |   5.545.686 |
|  WIU  |        232 |        136 |      5.623 |     20.421 |    274.597 |   3.300.159 |
|  PS3  |        153 |         65 |        944 |     15.725 |     39.436 |  10.273.444 |
| XB1 # |        102 |         87 |         40 |      5.753 |      3.607 |      78.701 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  ALL  |    109.206 |    166.835 |     63.481 |  4.285.190 |  2.679.886 |  48.976.043 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| XB1 S |        102 |         87 |            |        971 |            |       6.699 |
|PS4 Pro|      6.769 |      6.294 |            |    212.375 |            |     329.425 |
|  PS4  |     33.201 |     31.721 |     19.053 |  1.003.392 |    875.902 |   4.807.958 |
|  PSV  |      5.420 |      5.038 |     11.086 |    298.267 |    622.350 |   5.545.686 |
|n-2DSLL|     24.311 |     25.103 |            |    240.891 |            |     240.891 |
|  2DS  |      2.736 |      3.036 |            |    235.309 |            |     532.456 |
| n-3DS |     14.128 |     18.209 |     26.398 |    773.287 |    817.220 |   5.467.276 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+

 

[Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule]

lol switch

 

[madstarr12]

Nintendo hasn't fixed much with their stock issues. Oh well, next time.

Wonder how bad next week will look.....

 

[ArkhamFantasy]

Nintendo hasn't fixed much with their stock issues. Oh well, next time.

Wonder how bad next week will look.....

Im afraid we're back to the 22-24k that we were getting before DQ and Splatoon.

 

[SinCityAssassin]

Im afraid we're back to the 22-24k that we were getting before DQ and Splatoon.

That'll depend on how much Monster Hunter drives the stock.

 

[twothunder]

Well, speak of the devil

https://www.famitsu.com/biz/ranking/

Splatoon 2 at 1m, Switch sales are the same as MC.

| NSW | 22.154 | 77.146 | | 1.479.770
Splatoon 2 38.642 / 1.013.842 <80-100%>

Congrats Splatoon 2

 

[requiem02]

Nintendo really need to sort this out before Odyssey hits.

 

[Jojo Leir]

07./09. [NSW] Arms <FTG> (Nintendo) {2017.06.16} (¥5.980) - 6.439 / 203.722 (-18%)

Do we know if Amazon bundled Arms with the console this week?

Edit: 'This week' meaning Week 33

 

[Gradivus]

Do we know if Amazon bundled Arms with the console this week?

I think that was for last week, unless there were another round which I was unaware of...

 

[Ōkami]

Splatoon 2 sells in 1 month what the original did in 7.

1 out of every 3 Nintendo Switch games sold in Japan is Splatoon 2, the game is at near 70% attach rate.

 

[AcademicSaucer]

Lol Nintendo, it only lasted 2 weeks, I wonder when they are going to have stock again

 

[Mory Dunz]

Lol Nintendo, it only lasted 2 weeks,

what did?

 

[DecoReturns]

Splatoon 2 sells in 1 month what the original did in 7.

1 out of every 3 Nintendo Switch games sold in Japan is Splatoon 2, the game is at near 70% attach rate.

Congrats to the devs.

I wonder what it's lifetime sales will be.

 

[schuelma]

Lol Nintendo, it only lasted 2 weeks, I wonder when they are going to have stock again

Lol probably next week

 

[horuhe]

Lol Nintendo, it only lasted 2 weeks, I wonder when they are going to have stock again

At such rate for months, my bet is October but who knows...

 

[James Scott]

Is there a thread for Splatoon reaching 1M? That's pretty impressive all things considered.
There will probably be another Switch spike next week with MHXX bundles. Will be interesting to see if the game has any impact after all that happened

 

[MoonFrog]

DQVIII sold 235k in the next 4 weeks. DQXI will be nowhere close to that. It already dropped a lot at a holiday week.

3,5m sales is what looks as the upper limit (2+1,5).

Really hope it gets this far.

 

[horuhe]

Is there a thread for Splatoon reaching 1M? That's pretty impressive all things considered.
There will probably be another Switch spike next week with MHXX bundles. Will be interesting to see if the game has any impact after all that happened

Inferior tracker.

 

[L~A]

So in the end, Famitsu did have a report for Splatoon 2 at 1 million, but after they shared their weekly data.

https://www.famitsu.com/news/201708/24140294.html

Has results of survey, shows that Splatoon 2 has been bringing younger audience to the Switch. Just a survey, but seems to align with what we heard from a retailers a while ago (unless I'm misremebering things).

 

[MoonFrog]

So in the end, Famitsu did have a report for Splatoon 2 at 1 million, but after they shared their weekly data.

https://www.famitsu.com/news/201708/24140294.html

Has results of survey, shows that Splatoon 2 has been bringing younger audience to the Switch. Just a survey, but seems to align with what we heard from a retailers a while ago (unless I'm misremebering things).

We had something in these threads about demographics trending younger and more female as the sales progressed at Splatoon release (day or weak, I don't remember).

Which is the sort of thing I think we want to see, especially after the heavily male Switch launch period. (Or were those stats just for NA?)

 

[casiopao]

We had something in these threads about demographics trending younger and more female as the sales progressed at Splatoon release (day or weak, I don't remember).

Which is the sort of thing I think we want to see, especially after the heavily male Switch launch period. (Or were those stats just for NA?)

It will be interesting to see next year if those number will even grow bigger when Animal Crossing Switch drop. Female and children audience literaly devour those games.

 

[L~A]

So we finally know what had Nintendo so scared to release anything in November... Sonic Forces. Out on November 9th in Japan (date announced for Japan first? Did I miss something, or?...).

http://www.4gamer.net/games/350/G035073/20170824022/

Only Switch and PS4 get retail release, XB1 is digital-only.

 

[Ōkami]

Monopoly is coming out on November too, same date I believe.

 

[Xbro]

Is that only a few weeks after Odyssey? Are they insane?

 

[Sakura]

The Switch stock situation is disappointing. Can't find one any where. Guy at work ended up just buying one from a reseller.

 

[L~A]

Is that only a few weeks after Odyssey? Are they insane?

They did the same for the Japanese release of Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed, iirc. Released at around the same time as MK8 (actually, two weeks prior). Absolutely ludicrous, but they seem to think it's a good time. In that case, I guess they assume that players will be hungry for more after Odyssey? *shrugs*

 

[Xbro]

They did the same for the Japanese release of Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed, iirc. Released at around the same time as MK8 (actually, two weeks prior). Absolutely ludicrous, but they seem to think it's a good time. In that case, I guess they assume that players will be hungry for more after Odyssey? *shrugs*

19./00. [PS3] Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed <RCE> (Sega) {2014.05.15} (¥7.538) - 2.724 / NEW <20-40%>
24./00. [WIU] Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed <RCE> (Sega) {2014.05.15} (¥7.538) - 2.242 / NEW <20-40%>

01./00. [WIU] Mario Kart 8 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2014.05.29} (¥6.156) - 350.749 / NEW <80-100%>


I guess they were pleased with the result.

 

[jeremy1456]

Again I was right about ARMS. You guys really didn't think it would be the next Splatoon right?

I was right about it crawling to 200K and then dragging itself beyond that.

Because I'm almost always right I'll just say that DQXI on Switch will make 300k.

The only time I've been wrong is the Wii U so I'm pretty accurate.

 

[Ōkami]

Sonic games don't sell well regardless on when they come out.

 

[Xbro]

I think I've cracked the code. The Mario and Sonic series has sold more than the mainline sonic series when combined.

Sonic is at his best when he's with Mario. So they figure if they release Sonic with Mario, they can get those sales.

 

[Zedark]

Again I was right about ARMS. You guys really didn't think it would be the next Splatoon right?

I was right about it crawling to 200K and then dragging itself beyond that.

Because I'm almost always right I'll just say that DQXI on Switch will make 300k.

The only time I've been wrong is the Wii U so I'm pretty accurate.

Please rein in that extensive modesty of yours!

I still don't agree that selling to a target in 2 months on a waxing platform and with significant DLC support in the works is a good drfinition of crawling. It will sell comfortably over 200k. Reaching 300k will be what defines crawling, if it even happens.

 

[hongcha]

So, Switch 20-25k per week until Odyssey? Sounds like a GREAT plan, Nintendo!

 

[Xbro]

One week of 20k and we're already losing our minds.

 

[Chris1964]

Please rein in that extensive modesty of yours!

I still don't agree that selling to a target in 2 months on a waxing platform and with significant DLC support in the works is a good drfinition of crawling. It will sell comfortably over 200k. Reaching 300k will be what defines crawling, if it even happens.

300k will come this year. It won't crawl to reach them. After that mark we will see how much more power Arms has to reach 400k or more.

 

[Aters]

One week of 20k and we're already losing our minds.

We're not though? It's disappointing and people are expressing their disappointment. No need for damage control, we all know Switch will rule Japan sooner or later.

 

[Zedark]

300k will come this year. It won't crawl to reach them. After that mark we will see how much more power Arms has to reach 400k or more.

You're probably right. The game has shown to stand on its own legs when there are few Switch units, and the updates are coming, so 300k should indeed be doable. Had hoped it would do it more easily, but it's simply not nearly a Splatoon here.

 

[Yagami_Sama]

Nah. So far the discussion is okay. It's the standard.

Now next week will be the chaos. Even worse if we got low Switch and Monster Hunter sales.

 

[Zedark]

Nah. So far the discussion is okay. It's the standard.

Now next week will be the chaos. Even worse if we got low Switch and Monster Hunter sales.

If we have high numbers for both, why would we have chaos in that situation?

 

[Chris1964]

The minority expected a new Splatoon in Japan, not the majority. I know there are many illusions in Media Create threads but we won't make widespread opinion what a few had said.

 

[L~A]

Another Switch game dated: LEGO Worlds, on November 22nd. PS4 version did pretty poorly iirc, not really expecting this one to do much better.

http://www.4gamer.net/games/366/G036602/20170824054/

 

[Chris1964]

Nah. So far the discussion is okay. It's the standard.

Now next week will be the chaos. Even worse if we got low Switch and Monster Hunter sales.

We have already given hints for big shipments this week. It's not so hard to wait until Sunday for confirmation instead of having pages full of posts for 20k baseline.

 

[Aters]

The minority expected a new Splatoon in Japan, not the majority. I know there are many illusions in Media Create threads but we won't make widespread opinion what a few had said.

What was suppose to be the new Splatoon? Arms? Snack World? Haven't seen any new IP from Japan with Splatoon level potential.