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UK: Nintendo Switch sales currently above XB1 for the year, but way below PS4

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Wamb0wneD

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For the Switch to be competitive to the PS4 they would need football manager on there.

Nintendo not doing so hot in the UK is like saying water is wet.
 
Mithos

Mithos

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kpaadet said:
You think Switch would be a "threat" to the PS4 if it also got games like Cod or BF? Come on now.
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I'd own a Switch instead of a PS4 if third parties had announce a ton of AAA support for Switch at e3 2017. Anecdotal evidence sure but still.
 
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BanjoLayleeYookaKazooie

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N21 said:
I mean, the Xbox version of D2 is the incomplete version and probably has a low play count, I wouldn't surprised at the numbers.
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Even so it still seems shockingly low. It's a drop from the 1st game even if we forget the 360 sales and its a type of game that typically does very well on Xbox, with a lot of marketing behind it.

I didn't expect the sales to drop for either platform but Xbox barely pushing past 100k stood out.
 
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Seganomics

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Ricerocket said:
X1S not selling well anywhere with exclusive features like cheapest 4k Bluray player and gaming console is pretty bad and I don't see how a $500 X1 console will change things up. Switch is looking to outsell X1S easily and it's more expensive.
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It doesn't say it's easily outselling X1 it says its ahead but still way behind PS4. Nothing about that statement indicates massive sales.
 
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Aostia

El Capitan Todd
great for PS4, still strong in UK
good for Switch, still partially limited by initial supply issue, and still working on a better penetration of the market
very bad for Xbox, used to be their European fortress back in the 360 days, and still probably their biggest EU market nowadays, so....
 
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ExtinctionEvent

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Acquiescence said:
Xbone sales have (probably) ground to a halt because of the Xbox One X being on the horizon and all the marketing weight that Microsoft has thrown behind it. They're obviously taking their new hardware very seriously, but that's at the expense of the system they currently have out. It also doesn't help that Microsoft has had a miserable year in terms of exclusive content and differentiating their product from the competition. Things will pick up this fall when the new system is out, but how much it closes the gap remains to be seen.

And all these people saying the UK is a weak market for Nintendo - the DS and Wii were huge here at one point. If the Switch isn't taking off in the same way then it's probably due to the expensive costs that involve owning a Switch. The hardware itself is fine, but the peripherals and software are no joke, and we've become a more price-conscious nation over time.
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Lol nonsense...x1 sales have been poor all year, its not the x1x.
 
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kpaadet

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Mithos said:
I'd own a Switch instead of a PS4 if third parties had announce a ton of AAA support for Switch at e3 2017. Anecdotal evidence sure but still.
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Anecdotal evidence is my favorite thing on the internet. At least you acknowledge how useless it is.
 
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oti

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clevbrowns94 said:
He quite literally said Nintendo has "never" been big in the UK, a factually wrong statement. Now you are changing it to, "Well, that was only one generation." Even so, it's doesn't make the statement any less false.
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I'm not sure what any of this has to do with the UK being Nintendo's most difficult market. The UK is a huge market that Nintendo can't crack the same way they do with Germany and especially France. To think the Switch shoul've outsold PS4 because the Switch is new and PS4 isn't doesn't make much sense.
 
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Maledict

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oti said:
I'm not sure what any of this has to do with the UK being Nintendo's most difficult market. The UK is a huge market that Nintendo can't crask the same way they do with Germany and especially France. To think the Switch shoul've outsold PS4 because the Switch is new and PS4 isn't doesn't make much sense.
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This doesn't make sense. The Wii and the DS did absolute gangbusters here - same as in mainland Europe. The Wii U did terribly here - slightly worse than mainland Europe, but it did terribly *everywhere*.

Where is this time period where Nintendo was doing great in the rest of Europe and not in the UK?
 
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Aostia

El Capitan Todd
Maledict said:
This doesn't make sense. The Wii and the DS did absolute gangbusters here - same as in mainland Europe. The Wii U did terribly here - slightly worse than mainland Europe, but it did terribly *everywhere*.

Where is this time period where Nintendo was doing great in the rest of Europe and not in the UK?
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Now, with the Switch.
 
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Übermatik

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EmiPrime said:
The 360 was more successful here than the PS3.
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pswii60 said:
PS4 did have a two month head start, and no stock issues.

That said, Switch is fully in stock now in the UK - even discounted today. So the week-to-week sales numbers will be more interesting at this point. Not that we get any.

The biggest issue Switch faces in the UK is the lack of retail exposure. After Wii U completely bombed to Atari Lynx levels in the UK, the Nintendo shelf space in supermarkets and other retail stores dramatically reduced, almost becoming on-existent in many stores. And Switch hasn't changed that much.

Eh? Except the entirety of last gen when Sony was behind both Nintendo and Microsoft.
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Elandyll said:
It's not.

UK is (normally) MS' 2nd best territory afaik, and is generally just a very price sensitive / FIFA sensitive territory.

In the 360 days UK was massive for MS I believe.
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Huh, I always forget how Sony was so far behind last gen in regards to Microsoft. I know the 360 sold fuck tonnes, but... Plus it always seemed to me that the PS2 destroyed the UK market. That and all my mates over the years have has Sony systems (I live in the UK too).
 
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oti

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Maledict said:
This doesn't make sense. The Wii and the DS did absolute gangbusters here - same as in mainland Europe. The Wii U did terribly here - slightly worse than mainland Europe, but it did terribly *everywhere*.

Where is this time period where Nintendo was doing great in the rest of Europe and not in the UK?
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Look at the software charts.
Look at where Nintendo games usually are in Germany and France.
Look at where Nintendo games usually are in the UK.

Pif said:
Xbox selling worse than a supply constrained console is the real news here.
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This means either that Nintendo is doing really well in the UK relative to the market's lack of fondness for Nintendo or that Microsoft is doing terribly.
 
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Irminsul

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Maledict said:
This doesn't make sense. The Wii and the DS did absolute gangbusters here - same as in mainland Europe. The Wii U did terribly here - slightly worse than mainland Europe, but it did terribly *everywhere*.
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Define "same". If Wii had 60% of the market in mainland Europe and 40% in UK (totally made-up numbers), it would have "won" both markets, but still done much better in mainland Europe.
 
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Aostia

El Capitan Todd
BlackBuzzard said:
True i could pick up a Neon Switch today if i wanted to.
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Yes
but better supply are a known thing only since a month, more or less (those who are following sales thread closely should confirm this, I suppose). we have seen official statements and very clear weekly pace of sales in Japan, for example, testifying this.
It clearly had supply issues since the very launch, for at least 4 months, so it has been supply costrained for half of its lifecycle so far.

Just to be clear: I don't see the Switch selling better than the PS4 neither in US nor in UK in general terms
 
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EvB

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The switch will be successful, there are always children and you have to find something to buy them twice a year
 
N21

N21

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People need to calm down. Until we find out how much the Switch has outsold the XB1 at the moment, anything could happen in the last few months.
 
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Skittzo0413

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The UK can still be one of Nintendo's worst markets even if the Wii and DS sold incredibly well there. They sold incredibly well everywhere after all, that doesn't mean every other console hasn't struggled a bit there.

EvB said:
The switch will be successful, there are always children and you have to find something to buy them twice a year
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Weren't the numbers showing that 70-80% of Switch owners were between 20 and 35?
 
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Man God

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There's no games for the Switch so consumers are clearly buying multiple consoles in order to satiate themselves.
 
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Principate

Saint Titanfall
Maledict said:
This doesn't make sense. The Wii and the DS did absolute gangbusters here - same as in mainland Europe. The Wii U did terribly here - slightly worse than mainland Europe, but it did terribly *everywhere*.

Where is this time period where Nintendo was doing great in the rest of Europe and not in the UK?
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Did you somehow ignore all of the generation's prior to the DS? Europe had generally been weaker of the big 3 major markets for for Nintendo but they'vs made inroads since then as show by the 3DS performance in markets such as France comparatively to the UK. In the Wii u was stronger there.

The Wii was literally the only major Bridght spot console wise for Nintendo. Even th megadrive was seriously competitive with the snes back in the day
 
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BanjoLayleeYookaKazooie

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I mean we really should be waiting for Skyrim, Mario Odyssey, FIFA, Rocket League and the holiday season sales in general before making sweeping statements as to how well this system is selling in this country. Mario Kart and mayyyyybe BoTW are really the only truly big games released on the system so far that could push system sales.

The Xbox One had a CoD and FIFA at launch so if the Switch really is selling better than it launch aligned that is surprising.

If portable FIFA in particular doesn't catch on here considering it looks very competent then that'll be a hammer blow. So far there's been really nothing like that one way or another, it was never going to be a Wii or DS here like some users are sarcastically implying but the fact it hasn't sold as terribly as I thought it would at least is a positive.
 
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pswii60

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Übermatik;248706677 said:
Huh, I always forget how Sony was so far behind last gen in regards to Microsoft. I know the 360 sold fuck tonnes, but... Plus it always seemed to me that the PS2 destroyed the UK market. That and all my mates over the years have has Sony systems (I live in the UK too).
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The PS2 destroyed all markets, it was hardly just a UK thing. And it doesn't make the UK 'Sonyland'.

The whole '<insert your least favourite console manufacturer here>land' thing just seems like an excuse every time <insert your favourite console here> doesn't sell as much as the other.
 
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Shiggy

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The UK actually has been the strongest Nintendo market in Europe during the Wii/DS era. But with the Wii U/3DS the 'downfall' began. The French and German markets also crumbled, but not as much as the UK market.
 
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BanjoLayleeYookaKazooie

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pswii60 said:
The PS2 destroyed all markets, it was hardly just a UK thing. And it doesn't make the UK 'Sonyland'.

The whole '<insert your least favourite console manufacturer here>land' thing just seems like an excuse every time <insert your favourite console here> doesn't sell as much as the other.
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And to try and paint over the times when <insert your favourite console manufacturer here> has done poorly. Because of course the U.K. Isn't 'Sonyland' otherwise the PS3's launch wouldn't have been a disaster and the Vita wouldn't have been completely irrelevant.
 
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Principate

Saint Titanfall
pswii60 said:
The PS2 destroyed all markets, it was hardly just a UK thing. And it doesn't make the UK 'Sonyland'.

The whole '<insert your least favourite console manufacturer here>land' thing just seems like an excuse every time <insert your favourite console here> doesn't sell as much as the other.
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Sony has dominated console wise for 3 gens now. Nintendo once and Microsoft once. The difference between Sony and Microsoft is indeed marginal but outside of the lightning in a bottle success of the Wii you can't say the same for Nintendo.
 
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oti

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Shiggy said:
The UK actually has been the strongest Nintendo market in Europe during the Wii/DS era. But with the Wii U/3DS the 'downfall' began. The French and German markets also crumbled, but not as much as the UK market.
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Sales numbers wise or revenue wise? Do you know more details about that? Would love to hear them. UK and Nintendo is a fascinating market dynamic.
 
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