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Like yeah it super is, but I can't tell if they're cool with that or not...
Forreal. Of all forums, GAF finds this one ambiguous?
This isn't a shitpost or some stealth ignorance thing, I really haven't seen it before.
So much energy and time wasted to hate. I'll just don't understand racists.
Can you explain the meaning to this? Little lost here tbh
How is this ambiguous?
I don't think anyone is arguing the truthfulness of the message.exactly, even if its pro-racism, it's still fucking true. If it's anti-racism, it's still fucking true.
Forreal. Of all forums, GAF finds this one ambiguous?
We are talking about it so it seems like it worked.Uhhhh what?
Seriously what's the point to this?
Can you explain the meaning to this? Little lost here tbh
We are talking about it so it seems like it worked.
it's a statement. you just read it and realise shit is fucked up.
A lot of people like to pretend some of the recent stuff is a minor fringe movement, or a new thing. I've seen a lot of "right thinking" people express shock that stuff like Charlottesville could happen here and now.
To this, many POC and other activists have pointed out that racism has always been here, entwined in American culture, and though it might not have been on the surface as much until recently, that doesn't mean it didn't exist.
Hence the slogan - think of it as "racism is an American tradition" - essentially saying it's not new, it shouldn't be surprising, and we need to deal with it as an integral part of our society that needs to be reformed, not a fringe group we can ignore and they'll go away.
Nearly zero racists own up to the r-word because they don't view their hate as unjustified.Can you explain the meaning to this? Little lost here tbh
I can see that but I'm just asking for the meaning, or intended meaning, behind it.
I just don't get the comparison being made in the statement.
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I can see that but I'm just asking for the meaning, or intended meaning, behind it.
I just don't get the comparison being made in the statement.
Can you explain the meaning to this? Little lost here tbh
I don't think anyone is arguing the truthfulness of the message.
It's anti racism. Real racists are, bafflingly enough, terrified of the "R" word. They don't call themselves racists, they use candy coded sugar words and constantly ask how the explicitly racist thing they believe is racist. Racists are too cowardly to own up to how vile they are usually.
The oldest sport ever some would say.More American than baseball, really. Baseball didn't become popular until the mid-1850's. Racism's been the team sport of America since before it was America.
Having said that, the popular interpretation in this thread could easily be true as well. It was boo'ed at the game and he police were called so I'm not sure that aligns with the popular theory.
You know it was anti-racism because it was in Boston and they were removed.
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Sabathia said in his big league career "I've never been called the N word" anywhere but in Boston
12:41 PM - 2 May 2017
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Sabathia said it's talked about among black major leaguers: "we know. There's 62 of us. We all know. When you go to Boston, expect it."
12:49 PM - 2 May 2017
You guys are very sure of yourselves but you don't know these people who displayed the banner. You can say that all racists hate being labeled as such but I haven't found that to be true in many cases. There are plenty of hardcore racists who wear that label proudly because they firmly believe in white supremacy.
Having said that, the popular interpretation in this thread could easily be true as well. It was boo'ed at the game and he police were called so I'm not sure that aligns with the popular theory.
Thanks for the responses. Makes sense, sorta.
Saying racism is an American pastime doesn't make their message seem so...great? Or rather, doesn't sound like they're trying to say the right thing.
It sounds like they're enjoying a baseball game, telling the world that they're racists lol...
http://www.masslive.com/redsox/index.ssf/2017/09/sign_reading_racism_is_as_amer.htmlOne of the four individuals involved told Red Sox security they were inspired by the Black Lives Matter movement.
Have you ever met a conservative that actually thinks of themselves as a racist? Think, guys.
There's racism everywhere, of course.
I live in Oregon and I see people with trucks that fly a Confederate flag out the back, Trump bumper stickers, don't tread on me, et cetera.
What other possible reason for waving a Confederate flag around would there be, in a state that's nowhere near where the Confederacy actually was? Southern pride, in a northwest coast state?
EDIT: Also, Boston has a unique history with it, yes.
I have actually, many times. My point remains that it's not as clear as people want to make it out to be until we hear from the people behind it.I'm guessing you've never been to Fenway Park
I hope you're joking.This is one of the best protests in recent memory. All it does is make you think. It does not pick a side just basically tells you think about your side. Brilliant
I could be wrong too. Your interpretation is completely valid but I'm not willing to bet anything on which is correct.To be clear, the police (or security) would be called and they'd be removed no matter what. You can't hang signs there, no matter how true they are.
As for the boos, people could be misinterpreting it or it could just be that the average baseball game crowd doesn't really like criticisms of America during their entertainment.
I mean, I could be wrong here, but I'm 95% confident this is anti-racist.
It's not a positive message. It's a "take a hard look at the society you live in and it's history" message. It's not something a lot of people are going to like to see.
Im just trying to figure out how they got a banner that big into the stadium? I mean, even if the banner just said Lets Go Sox! - I would think they wouldnt let you roll in with a 25 x 15 banner...
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Also, regarding the sign, one of the people ejected said the group was inspired by Black Lives Matter. At this point, that is all we have.
I could be wrong too. Your interpretation is completely valid but I'm not willing to bet anything on which is correct.
To the people that have had a hard time parsing this:
http://www.masslive.com/redsox/index.ssf/2017/09/sign_reading_racism_is_as_amer.html
Oregon was planned as a White Utopia where it was illegal to be free and black inside it's borders.There's racism everywhere, of course.
I live in Oregon and I see people with trucks that fly a Confederate flag out the back, Trump bumper stickers, don't tread on me, et cetera.
What other possible reason for waving a Confederate flag around would there be, in a state that's nowhere near where the Confederacy actually was? Southern pride, in a northwest coast state?
EDIT: Also, Boston has a unique history with it, yes.
I mean, I could be wrong here, but I'm 95% confident this is anti-racist.
I hope you're joking.
Thank you. I assumed that's where it was coming from, but connecting it to the term, "American" really doesn't make sense within the context. It just seems like it's worded poorly.
I totally agree that racism is terrible and prevalent in America, but saying it's American, is kinda dumb.
This is one of the best protests in recent memory. All it does is make you think. It does not pick a side just basically tells you think about your side. Brilliant
To the people that have had a hard time parsing this:
http://www.masslive.com/redsox/index.ssf/2017/09/sign_reading_racism_is_as_amer.html
It's supposed to be anti-racist but it's so poorly articulated that I could totally see the miscommunication.
I see it now. I'm not sure that's definitive though. Being inspired by BLM could mean they want to do a white version of it as well.I'd take a look at beseda's post: