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[Skittzo0413]

I wasn't thinking so much as lore, as

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he unlockable classic levels, the recreation of the "Dead Simple" map in one of the hell levels, and the Icon of Sin showing up and giving you a bobble head if you hit its weak point. Stuff like that.

Oh I see. I played the originals a long, long time ago and barely remember anything but the

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classic maps

were pretty obvious as references. I don't think you'd need to have even played Doom before to get those.

I did not know about the

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Icon of Sin

though, I'll have to look out for that on my next playthrough.

 

[OryoN]

doesn't OG Doom max out at 35fps?

Lol, oh now we grounded in reality once again? I cant keep up with you guys

 

[Si2k78]

It's worth mentioning, Gamspot just posted a new preview of Mario Odyssey today. Should we expect new articles posted throughout the day? Or anything that they had planned to post would have been posted already, like Mario preview?

 

[Wamb0wneD]

It's worth mentioning, Gamspot just posted a new preview of Mario Odyssey today. Should we expect new articles posted throughout the day? Or anything that they had planned to post would have been posted already, like Mario preview?

There already is a thread for the previews.

 

[TheMoon]

doesn't OG Doom max out at 35fps?

as we learned on DF Retro the other day, designed for 35fps on 70Hz (2x35) computer monitors

 

[Smurfman256]

as we learned on DF Retro the other day, designed for 35fps on 70Hz (2x35) computer monitors

And apparently the Saturn port was supposed to be awesome (reportedly 60FPS), but the rendering method caused affine texture warping which John Carmack hated like the plague, so he made the lead programmer render in software instead.

 

[jamonbread]

Gyro is better in my opinion as its more consistant, and you arent aiming at a sensor, you are just moving your controller. Having to push a single button once in a while is worth the sacrifice. (I only have to reset in Splatoon 2 if I get really pissed and throw my hands around after dying lol)

I felt the 1st person aiming in Skyward Sword felt less responsive compared to Twilight Princess, and then I later realised I could still aim without the sensor bar.

 

[Mr Swine]

And apparently the Saturn port was supposed to be awesome (reportedly 60FPS), but the rendering method caused affine texture warping which John Carmack hated like the plague, so he made the lead programmer render in software instead.

Well seeing how terrible PS1 games are with texture warping are I understand him. I also hate texture warping and i’m Glad that N64 or DS never had that kind of problem

 

[Smurfman256]

Well seeing how terrible PS1 games are with texture warping are I understand him. I also hate texture warping and i’m Glad that N64 or DS never had that kind of problem

That's because the N64 actually had a proper 3D accelerator in it, whereas the PS1 did not.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

I understand It wasn't your point, but I would buy the shit outta some eshop Doom+Doom 2 release

They seemed to have stopped making an effort to port it on everything. I now have a 3DS, PS4, Wii U, Vita and Switch that cannot play OG Doom.

Restore balance please Bethesda. 😔

 

[Serpens007]

They seemed to have stopped making an effort to port it on everything. I now have a 3DS, PS4, Wii U, Vita and Switch that cannot play OG Doom.

Restore balance please Bethesda. 😔

After DN3D for Vita, all I wanted was Doom. Damn

 

[Smiles and Cries]

With all the Mario previews dropping today I guess people forgot they played Doom

 

[Smurfman256]

They seemed to have stopped making an effort to port it on everything. I now have a 3DS, PS4, Wii U, Vita and Switch that cannot play OG Doom.

Restore balance please Bethesda. 😔

Speaking of "porting things to everything", can we get a Switch version of Rezi 4, please?

 

[Raiden]

Lol them developers trying to get that Switch pie. They can tell this thing is going to grow in something else entirely ...


Its glorious.

 

[Cerium]

With all the Mario previews dropping today I guess people forgot they played Doom

Seems unlikely that both embargoes would drop on the same day. Who was it that originally said it was the 20th anyway?

 

[Si2k78]

Seems unlikely that both embargoes would drop on the same day. Who was it that originally said it was the 20th anyway?

A lier that's who....

 

[Skittzo0413]

I hate when embargo dates are under embargo.

 

[Naked Snake]

That's because the N64 actually had a proper 3D accelerator in it, whereas the PS1 did not.

I'm not sure that's correct. The PS1's GPU couldn't do floating point operations I think, and that's what causes the wobbly textures.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Seems unlikely that both embargoes would drop on the same day. Who was it that originally said it was the 20th anyway?

makes sense people got their embargoes mixed up

waits for Noon EST then Noon PST to see if anything pops up

 

[mugurumakensei]

I'm not sure that's correct. The PS1's GPU couldn't do floating point operations I think, and that's what causes the wobbly textures.

No. It's right. The PS1 had no Z-Buffer and the GPU was fixed point which technically means it's a terrible 3D accelerator since good 3D GPUs even at the time operated on floating point.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

I mean it comes out in max 3 months guys, chill! It will most likely be a competent port, I have faith id wouldn't put their name on a shoddy product.

 

[LordKano]

I hate when embargo dates are under embargo.

Bethesda is the only one to do that shit.

 

[Smurfman256]

Bethesda is the only one to do that shit.

Because Bethesda knows they can get away with it.

 

[Naked Snake]

No. It's right. The PS1 had no Z-Buffer and the GPU was fixed point which technically means it's a terrible 3D accelerator since good 3D GPUs even at the time operated on floating point.

What were they thinking?

I actually like the look of PS1 games, texture warping and all. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

 

[Smurfman256]

What were they thinking?

I actually like the look of PS1 games, texture warping and all. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

And I still like how the N64 looks with its forced AA (but only on a CRT- it just looks correct that way).

 

[Naked Snake]

And I still like how the N64 looks with its forced AA (but only on a CRT- it just looks correct that way).

I love the N64, at least as equally as the PS1, but the look of its games don't tug at my heart strings the way PS1 games do... It's weird. I get the same nostalgic feeling from early PC FPS games like Doom, Duke Nukem, Hexen, Heretic, Blood, Dark Forces, and the original Quake, even though I never really played them. I guess I love gritty pixelated 3D graphics.

 

[SuperSah]

So are we getting previews or not?

 

[Zedark]

So are we getting previews or not?

They either come in 2 hours and 7 minutes, or we won't get them. 12 pm PT was the suggested time.

 

[I Wanna Be The Guy]

Wow tomorrow running at an even worse framerate than expected.

 

[DrWong]

Wow tomorrow running at an even worse framerate than expected.

10 Gdays patch incoming.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

So are we getting previews or not?

They were going to then they saw your jokes and cancelled them.

 

[Playsage]

I don't know if the nda is the same for every region.

In Italy the previews are supposed to be published on the 21st (maybe the nda lifts during the night here)

 

[molnizzle]

For fuck's sake I feel like I've been waiting for "tomorrow" for several days now.

What is the goddamn frame rate?

 

[Dark Cloud]

I don't think Nintendo/Bethesda wanted Mario Odyssey previews and Doom previews coming out the exact same time. It's good to space them out by some hours or so.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

I don't think Nintendo/Bethesda wanted Mario Odyssey previews and Doom previews coming out the exact same time. It's good to space them out by some hours or so.

They don't want the frames overlapping at this rate.

 

[Okami Haundo]

For fuck's sake I feel like I've been waiting for "tomorrow" for several days now.

What is the goddamn frame rate?

I hope this post isn't as serious as it seems, because if it is I think you need to take a break from Gaf good friend.

They don't want the frames overlapping at this rate.

I approve of this joke.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

For fuck's sake I feel like I've been waiting for "tomorrow" for several days now.

What is the goddamn frame rate?

"The numbers Mason, what framerate it is?"

 

[Dark Cloud]

They don't want the frames overlapping at this rate.

lol

 

[thumb]

For fuck's sake I feel like I've been waiting for "tomorrow" for several days now.

What is the goddamn frame rate?

60FPS as long as you look at the floor.

 

[Ricerocket]

For fuck's sake I feel like I've been waiting for "tomorrow" for several days now.

What is the goddamn frame rate?

"It's smooth" or "fps looks ok"

The ones invited aren't getting fps counters and all to really tell anyone beyond that.

 

[Danneee]

Aren't jokes typically funny?

I’d say it’s split 50/50 here.

 

[LordKano]

I’d say it’s split 50/50 here.

More like 30/30 amirite.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

"It's smooth" or "fps looks ok"

The ones invited aren't getting fps counters and all to really tell anyone beyond that.

A lot of people can see the difference between 30fps or 60fps...

 

[I Wanna Be The Guy]

60FPS as long as you look at the floor.

I'm looking. I'm looking.

HE'S RIGHT, GUYS. FRAMERATE IS STABLE

 

[Danneee]

More like 30/30 amirite.

With drops.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

I'm looking. I'm looking.

HE'S RIGHT, GUYS. FRAMERATE IS STABLE

Real Life is 24fps

You got trolled son!!

 

[GrayFoxPL]

From what I've seen of the Digital Foundry report (I have no experience, I've played on PC since launch), it only really has any major dips (I.E., into the low 50's) during Gore Nest explosions.

On higher difficulty level then normal on later levels with upgraded weapons(more splosions) the framerate can visibly dip for a second. Personal experience.

 

[molnizzle]

"It's smooth" or "fps looks ok"

The ones invited aren't getting fps counters and all to really tell anyone beyond that.

...they have eyeballs. Anyone who gets paid to write about video games should easily be able to tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps.

 

[Ricerocket]

A lot of people can see the difference between 30fps or 60fps...

I can but I still often see we get a lot of people who say they can't see it (which boggles my mind).

 

[Skittzo0413]

I don't know if the nda is the same for every region.

In Italy the previews are supposed to be published on the 21st (maybe the nda lifts during the night here)

Any idea what time? If that's midnight on the 21st that would be 6pm today EDT. 3pm PDT, and the event was held there I believe.