Thanks, hopefully the Sony will get an update too (although if not, by the time HLG becomes common it'll probably be time for an upgrade anyway).correct.
Thanks, hopefully the Sony will get an update too (although if not, by the time HLG becomes common it'll probably be time for an upgrade anyway).correct.
Yes.
I've pulled the trigger on a 65" LG B7 and now have to upgrade my receiver. Looking at the Sony STRDN1080 and wondering if anyone here can provide feedback?
Hoping it goes on sale again soon as it's $699 CAD currently but was on sale for $499 a couple of months ago.
So any ideas on receivers when keeping HDMI 2.2 in mind? I see some that are Dolby Vision and HDR compatible, but I didnt know if I should be waiting to buy for the new standard. Im very uneducated with this, lol.
There is no such thing as HDMI 2.2 yet, and there are no devices of any kind that support the HDMI 2.1 specification. Im not even certain the spec has been finalized.
Receivers promoted as supporting HDMI 2.1 probably wont appear until 2018 and theyre likely to be extremely high end models only initially. After all, the big marquee features for the new spec are 8k and 10k support. Its mostly a forward-looking specification with limited immediate application, so if youre thinking of waiting you should note that you could be waiting quite a while.
What gets interesting is the potential for 2.1 features that could be supported with 2.0 hardware, like Variable Refresh Rate. As far as Im aware, Microsoft are the only ones to commit to supporting that kind of configuration. No televisions and no receivers have been announced. Maybe there will be a 2.0c specification to formalize this kind of thing? If so, I could see that being a mainstream move in 2018 but as of now we know nothing.
So buy if youre sick of waiting, or hold off indefinitely waiting to see what options are around the corner. Me? I think Im to the point of simply buying now and assuming that Ill want second- or third-generation HDMI 2.1 gear when the prices come down to earth in a few years time.
Not sure if this is exactly the right thread to ask, but does anyone know of any decent 4K/HDR capable HDMI switches? Keep seeing mixed reviews on everything that claims to be 4K/HDR capable.
Was thinking that when my X1X comes I'd rather have it and my PS4 Pro on one HDMI.
Is there any websites that inform you of how much lag input is added with recievers? That type of information seems very important that I never see in reviews.
Most people playing linear content dont care, so its not frequently addressed except where it relates to lip sync challenges. Its also quite possible to introduce very different levels of audio and video lag. Probably the most reliable way to test is with Rock Band and one of the guitars that has built-in sensors for calibration.
I plan to test my new Yamaha RX-A1070 with this technique next weekend now that I have everything set up. I did play some Rocksmith tonight and wound up turning off all audio processing via Pure Direct mode to minimize audio lag which was quite noticeable otherwise.
With Rocksmith there is so much lag through HDMI. Is almost necessary to go video only HDMI and audio through optical cable.
I see that claim repeatedly but Im not sure theres actually a technical reason to expect that it will be the case. Analog audio output on consoles, back when that was a thing, had an inherent advantage that reduced latency. Digital audio transmission is a different story.
HDMI and TOSLINK optical interconnects both have the same implicit latency issues built in, and optical has the disadvantage over being an older protocol that is extremely bandwidth limited. To get multichannel sound over optical requires Dolby Digital or DTS encoding which componds the problem. I could definitely tell the latency difference between these surround encodings and stereo LPCM over optical, but I dont find LPCM optical to have audible advantages over HDMI. I suspect it depends a lot on the receiver.
As I noted above, engaging a pure direct mode without any DSP trickery on the output path is what makes a big difference for me.
Is there any websites that inform you of how much lag input is added with recievers? That type of information seems very important that I never see in reviews.
Are you sure about this?ARC only supports up to Dolby Digital.
I have a Sony XBR55X900E 55-Inch 4K Ultra HD, but I have too many 4K UHD devices and desperately need more HDMI ports.
I learned that this CT800 Soundbar has 4K HDMI ports, but will this allow for proper HDR content as well?
I'd be connecting a PS4 Pro, Xbox One X and Apple TV4K and a bunch of other non-HDR devices via HDMI. I just want to make sure I'm making the right decision.
The alternative is to get a Sony STRDN1080 7.2 Channel Dolby Atmos Home Theater AV Receiver and a Sony SSCS5 3-Way 3-Driver Bookshelf Speaker System. I assume that will get me MUCH better sound and more flexibility/connections.
What about lag? I assume the STRDN1080 is a decent receiver suited for gaming content..
Are you sure about this?
My tv has the possibility to send HD sound if the receiver is compatible with the signal.. I can choose from either PCM and bitstream..
Oh ok.. so should I choose bitstream then?Yes, it's a limitation of HDMI ARC. If you're getting PCM, it's probably just 2.0. The new HDMI format will have a newer version of ARC which will support HD audio formats, but as of right now, it doesn't at all.
Oh ok.. so should I choose bitstream then?
Ok nice, thanks for the answer
There is no way to get HDR pass through on the old PSVR breakout box. You need multiple HDMI cables and need to swap the cables accordingly.Asked this in another thread, but didn't get an answer so I'll try in here.
Just bought a Denon AVR-X2400H to go with a 4K TV. Could I connect a PS VR breakout box to the Zone2 HDMI to make sure that HDR is passed from the PS4 through to the TV (through the Main Zone HDMI)?
Im thinking:There is no way to get HDR pass through on the old PSVR breakout box. You need multiple HDMI cables and need to swap the cables accordingly.
There still needs to be a cable going from the nrakout box to the PS4. You would need to swap a cable from the PS4 to the one hooked up to zone 1 and then zone 2 when you wanted to play VR.Im thinking:
PS4 Pro -> Denon
Then:
Zone1 -> TV
Zone2 -> PSVR -> TV (separate HDMI for social screen)
Would that not work?
This might be a long shot, but does anyone know of any HDMI splitters that will allow me to split 4K HDR video from my PS4 Pro to my TV and lossless audio to my receiver? I recently upgraded to a 4K TV and ARC passthru maxes out at Dolby 5.1 which really doesn't cut it anymore. My receiver is an Onkyo TX-NR1010, which I'm having trouble finding a suitable replacement for as HDMI video switching between two different TV's is an essential feature of my living room.
Yeah I use the Sewell switchdeck (white one) and it does ps4 pro and xbox S 4k and hdr on my Samsung tv (which only has 1 hdmi 2.0 port). 3 months on and no issues.
This might be a long shot, but does anyone know of any HDMI splitters that will allow me to split 4K HDR video from my PS4 Pro to my TV and lossless audio to my receiver? I recently upgraded to a 4K TV and ARC passthru maxes out at Dolby 5.1 which really doesn't cut it anymore. My receiver is an Onkyo TX-NR1010, which I'm having trouble finding a suitable replacement for as HDMI video switching between two different TV's is an essential feature of my living room.
I require the same thing for my Xbox one x when it arrives. The hd fury avr key is designed to do this. It is a bit costly, but much less than a new avr.
I've tried a similar device, they all have this limitation of only outputting the lesser HDMI spec of the connected two. I couldn't get Xbox one S to display properly in 4K mode.Quoting myself above. I have the Sewell Switch Deck which successfully works with my PS4 Pro and Xbox One S in full HDR. The problem is that the ARC from my TV only outputs DTS to my Sony Receiver. LPCM only works in 2 channels, as Marty Chinn pointed out.
Sewell makes another product called the Split Deck 2.0 that I am tempted to try.
In other words, both PS4P and XB1S go into the Switch Deck, and I will take the single output and plug that into the Split Deck, which would output to my TV and another directly to my receiver. Hopefully that produces LPCM 5.1 while maintaining 4k hdr on the TV
So essentially cutting out my TV's job of doing ARC.
Will report if it works.
I've tried a similar device, they all have this limitation of only outputting the lesser HDMI spec of the connected two. I couldn't get Xbox one S to display properly in 4K mode.
I checked its store page, so it acts as a splitter?Hd fury avr key is designed to handle this situation. I have one in order, so I haven't used it yet. However, it's designed specifically for this issue.
I never have had this problem. I wonder what setups those people had to experience the issue.
I have had audio get out of sync using a receiver though.
reposting this for the Television thread because it's AV related:
So I just got the 65" version a few weeks and while it's great, I've just recently (within the past week), noticed some white spots flickering whenever my ps4 pro switches to HDR mode (which it also seems to automatically do for netflix for some reason??). Quite noticeable during particularly dark moments on screen. The pro is going through a Pioneer receiver, so I tried connecting directly to the TV and noticed the white flickering spots disappeared. I went into the settings of the HDMI output on the receiver the pro is on and noticed it's set to 4:4:4, I switched it to 4:2:2, but then everything was washed out when the pro went to HDR mode. So I then switched the receiver back to 4:4:4, and over the last day or so I've noticed the white spots have disappeared, though I suspect the problem may crop up again.
I'm not too used to tinkering with all these settings, so I've left my PS4 video output to auto, which I think is for the best? I've noticed if I set it to YUV420 for HDR content the white spots do not show up as well. Only in RGB or auto mode do they have a tendency to show up when passing through the receiver. I guess I'd just like to hear some of your thoughts or if any of you have experienced similar issues.
It's a Pioneer home theatre system/receiver that I'm using: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JOBIFP2/?tag=neogaf0e-20
The point is if you want to have better speakers and/or a "true" surround setup with multiple speakers, or if you have more devices than inputs on your TV.I don't even need a receive actually.
My Sony ct800 has hdmi 4k hdr pass through to arc port
Hdmi from. Ps4 pro to ct800 to TV
All my consoles connected to TV and TV os get ct800 output automatically
I realky don't understand the point of a receiver with this passthrough capability
I require the same thing for my Xbox one x when it arrives. The hd fury avr key is designed to do this. It is a bit costly, but much less than a new avr.
Quoting myself above. I have the Sewell Switch Deck which successfully works with my PS4 Pro and Xbox One S in full HDR. The problem is that the ARC from my TV only outputs DTS to my Sony Receiver. LPCM only works in 2 channels, as Marty Chinn pointed out.
Sewell makes another product called the Split Deck 2.0 that I am tempted to try.
In other words, both PS4P and XB1S go into the Switch Deck, and I will take the single output and plug that into the Split Deck, which would output to my TV and another directly to my receiver. Hopefully that produces LPCM 5.1 while maintaining 4k hdr on the TV
So essentially cutting out my TV's job of doing ARC.
Will report if it works.
Question - i have speakers that want 100w's per channel. My receiver (Denon something) does about 75.
Would I see an increase if I got a receiver that could push out 100?
Thanks for the replies! Really tempted to get the AVR key as it looks like its precisely what I need, but I'll wait for your report on the SplitDeck is quite a bit less expensive and looks like it supports all the audio formats I need judging from the product description.
I've pulled the trigger on a 65" LG B7 and now have to upgrade my receiver. Looking at the Sony STRDN1080 and wondering if anyone here can provide feedback? Hoping it goes on sale again soon as it's $699 CAD currently but was on sale for $499 a couple of months ago.
That difference in audio isn't all that noticeable unless we're talking Atmos, which I just don't care about. I just use an ICan HDMI switch that supports hdcp 2.2 and pass the audio through to my HK receiver. I actually returned my new receiver because I got the AVR 154 for $50 off a retiree on Kijiji and the switch cost 60. Saving about 400 for a very minor difference in audio.So I don't think I'm going to try the splitter route as I hear the signal resolution will default to the lowest in the chain (ie my 1080p receiver). Sorry! I think I can live with DTS audio until a good AV receiver deal comes around (Sony DN-1000 series for example).
Hoping Black friday is good!