That's not out of date, people still does it for 3DS and Vita and probably for Switch (haven't seen it yet, but I expect it)It's like me saying I'll never console game cause I hate blowing into cartridges to make them work.
Designed for 30 frames? Thats always inferior without exception. Advantage of PC gaming isnt graphics, certainly not half the apeal. Mouse and keyboard control in games is the biggest one, the feel of high framerate in every game is another major one and the games library, with thousands of games and entire genres spanning 40 years only available on PC.
Even if users have to lower graphical settings to hit high framerates, thats a win over the console experience. The game plays and feels better, the image detail is the least important part.
Designed for 30 fps games? That is the most stupid thing I have ever read on this board.
On a side note: I'd like to see you play DMC4 with a Mouse and Keyboard. M&B are only good for certain genre's. It's terrible for most platformers and action games.
Just got Ultimate Doom off Steam today... Can't believe that in the current year of our lord 2017 that I have to go into cfg files just to get the game to look and sound halfway decent. Also ran into some fuckery with DOSBox when I tried to exit the game and had to restart my computer since I was just getting a static black screen. Granted, I know this is a very old game, but I still fell like for just about every game I play on PC, I end up spending a significant amount of time just fucking around with settings just so the game can run optimally.
If I didn't know as much as I do about computers, I would definitely understand how some could see PC gaming as a daunting experience.
We also shouldn't underplay the sheer amount of shit console ports that PC still gets to this day *glares at FH3 and Nier Automata*
Because a large chunk of people who play games play them casually and want to do it with as little work as possible. As soon as you introduce the concepts of manually updating hardware and software - i.e. dedicated work - they tune right out. I worked at an EB for roughly five years and with all the different types of customers I saw there the amount of people I met who were dedicated enough to tinker with PCs in any capacity - be it simply adding a few mods or swapping out their GPUs on an annual basis - I could probably count on one hand. It's a scary market for those who just want to buy a game and have it work out the gate. It's why consoles are still as popular as they are; because you pop the disc in or download it off the store and boom, you're playing. It's why most PS4 owners still haven't upgraded to a Pro. The return on investment for some better resolution and lighting effects isn't there for the vast majority.
I'm not slamming PC gaming at all. I built my first ever rig all by myself back in 2004 solely to play Half-Life 2. It was a fantastic learning experience and I'm glad I got to dig into that part of this industry. But it is clearly not for most people.
Wouldn't that mean having to change display setting every single time I want to play a game though? Would be nice if there was a way that when I change to my PC HDMI on the TV the PC could detect it and automatically do this + change audio channels rather than having to manually change it every single time.
Reading through this thread it seems like 90% of tinkering happens when trying to do things that are impossible to do on other platforms.
Just got Ultimate Doom off Steam today... Can't believe that in the current year of our lord 2017 that I have to go into cfg files just to get the game to look and sound halfway decent. Also ran into some fuckery with DOSBox when I tried to exit the game and had to restart my computer since I was just getting a static black screen. Granted, I know this is a very old game, but I still fell like for just about every game I play on PC, I end up spending a significant amount of time just fucking around with settings just so the game can run optimally.*
On a side note: I'd like to see you play DMC4 with a Mouse and Keyboard. M&B are only good for certain genre's. It's terrible for most platformers and action games.
This post lol. Missing the point so badly.This post lol
You can hook it to your TV. Your can use any controller. Waste time on drivers? Graphic cards? It's a one time installation for graphic cards and drivers installation is as easy as to update your console firmware. You probably loose more time waiting on the console loading times than pc updates. Hackers ruining your game is old wives tale. You can have nice graphics, time and convenience on pc as well you just need to change that mindset
What do you mean by sub-optimally? Yes, games may have worse Graphics on console and be capped at 30 FPS. But that's not sub-optimal, that's how the games were designed.
To exaggerate a bit, you wouldn't call the original release of Okami on the PS2 'sub-optimal' compared to the PS3/PS4 HD ports, would you?
It's well known that PC's can be more powerful than their contemporary console counterparts. PC versions usually allow quality settings that make the game look nicer as part of the entire attraction of a PC version of a game. That's half the point of PC games nowadays. That doesn't make the console versions 'sub-optimal,' it means you spent $1,200 on a PC.
With that in mind, I'd wager that most PC users do not have the best PC's available and most likely don't have optimal experiences on the PC because they have to compromise on their graphic settings.
Really?
This is really what the console market looks like in 2017?
2 radically different base SKUs for the Playstation and Xbox branded devices, with a myriad of different SKUs within those base SKUs of different HDD sizes, and given mandatory installs a near necessity to upgrade beyond a 500Gb HDD for early adopters, and that upgrade process being manually opening your device up and buying more expensive and more error prone 2.5" laptop drives over cheaper and more robust 3.5" drives, as well as all of the background research required as to whether you get a standard platter, an SSD or a hybrid?
Come on now.
About laptops, don't forget about problems like this, which isn't even documented in any laptop review whatsoever that's affected by it:My problem with PC gaming is that even if I can buy a gaming laptop that has everything built in, and I check which games has requirement specs that match my computer, some times I still have compatibility issues, plus lots of times I still have some performance issues which I really don't from were they came from, and had to fix some things from my OS.
Meanwhile, with a console you hardly had to bother of doing OS reparations, you just go there and play, so even though using a pc for gaming doesn't require an engineer degree to play, it still has some problems that don't trigger me on consoles
Tinkering is the most fun ive had in the pc gaming.
It's simply due to the issues that can present themselves and the lack of knowledge how to fix it. Pretty simple really. A closed format provides hassle free gaming while a computer can leave you wide open to driver issues, compatability, and no guarantee a game will work. without the knowledge it can be a real nightmare for people.
Reading through this thread it seems like 90% of tinkering happens when trying to do things that are impossible to do on other platforms.
Many PC gamers use a TV too, though I do admit that it can become quite a headache depending on how your setup is (mixing in a receiver, 4k and HDR may or may not work unfortunately).Playing a console. Step 1: plug it in and connect to your TV.
Step 2: insert disc. Install update.
Step 3: play
PC owners need to understand the appeal of that convenience. I don't want to piss around with drivers and graphics cards and keyboards and installs and upgrades. I mean, why even bother anyway? My next Playstation will match what your PC does now, so I can wait. The PS4 pisses all over PCs from 10 years ago. Consoles are progressing regardless.
The other thing I don't get about PC gaming? You cry on about insane specs and graphics and then you play on tiny monitors. I play on a giant OLED TV and I know what I prefer.
Playing a console. Step 1: plug it in and connect to your TV.
Step 2: insert disc. Install update.
Step 3: play
PC owners need to understand the appeal of that convenience. I don't want to piss around with drivers and graphics cards and keyboards and installs and upgrades. I mean, why even bother anyway? My next Playstation will match what your PC does now, so I can wait. The PS4 pisses all over PCs from 10 years ago. Consoles are progressing regardless.
The other thing I don't get about PC gaming? You cry on about insane specs and graphics and then you play on tiny monitors. I play on a giant OLED TV and I know what I prefer.
The epitome of ignorance has been found!Playing a console. Step 1: plug it in and connect to your TV.
Step 2: insert disc. Install update.
Step 3: play
PC owners need to understand the appeal of that convenience. I don't want to piss around with drivers and graphics cards and keyboards and installs and upgrades. I mean, why even bother anyway? My next Playstation will match what your PC does now, so I can wait. The PS4 pisses all over PCs from 10 years ago. Consoles are progressing regardless.
The other thing I don't get about PC gaming? You cry on about insane specs and graphics and then you play on tiny monitors. I play on a giant OLED TV and I know what I prefer.
Playing a console. Step 1: plug it in and connect to your TV.
Step 2: insert disc. Install update.
Step 3: play
PC owners need to understand the appeal of that convenience. I don't want to piss around with drivers and graphics cards and keyboards and installs and upgrades. I mean, why even bother anyway? My next Playstation will match what your PC does now, so I can wait. The PS4 pisses all over PCs from 10 years ago. Consoles are progressing regardless.
The other thing I don't get about PC gaming? You cry on about insane specs and graphics and then you play on tiny monitors. I play on a giant OLED TV and I know what I prefer.
Many PC gamers use a TV too, though I do admit that it can become quite a headache depending on how your setup is (mixing in a receiver, 4k and HDR may or may not work unfortunately).
As for the next playstation matching today's PC, I'm not sure. I mean, I've had a 780 before I got my PS4 and the 780 still runs games today much better than what my PS4 could manage (obviously talking about multiplatform games)
On a side note: I'd like to see you play DMC4 with a Mouse and Keyboard. M&B are only good for certain genre's. It's terrible for most platformers and action games.
Nothing. I had a 3570k and a 780 4 years ago, before I got a PS4, and still had the same setup until 2 weeks ago, when I got a new GPU.And what else on your PC have you had to change or upgrade in that time?
I'm thinking about building a first gaming PC soon, just a little worried that I wouldn't play it enough (or I'd play it too much), and I'd have to set it up with a TV because crouching over a desk at a monitor is not my style.
Can't really justify the cost right now either when my PS4 serves me pretty well (and I don't even play that enough.)
Playing a console. Step 1: plug it in and connect to your TV.
Step 2: insert disc. Install update.
Step 3: play
PC owners need to understand the appeal of that convenience. I don't want to piss around with drivers and graphics cards and keyboards and installs and upgrades. I mean, why even bother anyway? My next Playstation will match what your PC does now, so I can wait. The PS4 pisses all over PCs from 10 years ago. Consoles are progressing regardless.
The other thing I don't get about PC gaming? You cry on about insane specs and graphics and then you play on tiny monitors. I play on a giant OLED TV and I know what I prefer.
I would just stick to your PS4. If you dont have enough time to play on PS4 you definitely wont have enough time splitting between pc and PS4. Ive been there, my current PC is my 4th gaming PC and Ive been through the I just spent $800 on a pc that I never play.I'm thinking about building a first gaming PC soon, just a little worried that I wouldn't play it enough (or I'd play it too much), and I'd have to set it up with a TV because crouching over a desk at a monitor is not my style.
Can't really justify the cost right now either when my PS4 serves me pretty well (and I don't even play that enough.)
Reading through this thread it seems like 90% of tinkering happens when trying to do things that are impossible to do on other platforms.