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Destiny 2 |OT2| Leviathan Wakes (Spoiler Tag ALL Raid Discussion)

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
So that Io loop for Faction Tokens, timed myself

Every 15 minutes, 70 Tokens, not counting the free ones from the new event that takes place in the zone, so add +10
1 hour 250-280+ Tokens easily.

Trostam 3, every 45 sec, more leg work, just running and tagging 3, but cycle is faster on Io, cause you can tag 5-6 caches, once it was 4, due to RNG placement
You can earn 5-6 in Io in 1 min, than 6 in 1.5 minut
 
I normally despise hand cannons, but by God that FWC one with explosive rounds is so freaking good. OMG.

It's a thing of beauty.

I hit 290 tonight. Not bad having never set foot in the raid and not rotated alts yet. Going to boost a warlock next to try and hit 295-300.
 

Jblanks

Member
Got a Hawthorne clan engram - 305 Graviton Lance. Go to cryptarch to decode legendary - 295 Pulse. Go to Cayde to turn in Flashpoint - 298 Pulse... If only pulses were good.
 

shermas

Member
So that Io loop for Faction Tokens, timed myself

Every 15 minutes, 70 Tokens, not counting the free ones from the new event that takes place in the zone, so add +10
1 hour 250-280+ Tokens easily.

Trostam 3, every 45 sec, more leg work, just running and tagging 3, but cycle is faster on Io, cause you can tag 5-6 caches, once it was 4, due to RNG placement
You can earn 5-6 in Io in 1 min, than 6 in 1.5 minut

What's the IO loop?

I did the titan lost sector for a bit tonight.. Got tired of farming. 600 tokens (30 packages) is loot cap, right?
 

RedRaider

Member
After completing the weekly reset on my main I transferred all my high gear to my secondary character and began redoing all the weekly milestones as a 304 Light, but the powerful gear from the weekly's were only dropping for me at 294 on my second character.

Do weekly milestones not scale to your light on second and third characters when transferring gear, and if not, how do I increase my legendary engram power drop for weekly's for my other characters? Any help would be appreciated. Here's my current hunter:

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BLU-82

Member
After completing the weekly reset on my main I transferred all my high gear to my secondary character and began redoing all the weekly milestones as a 304 Light, but the powerful gear from the weekly's were only dropping for me at 294 on my second character.

Do weekly milestones not scale to your light on second and third characters when transferring gear, and if not, how do I increase my legendary engram power drop for weekly's for my other characters? Any help would be appreciated. Here's my current hunter:
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Are you alts all hunters? If they are the same class the game will nerf the power engrams if you have alts of the same type. To prevent power leveling.
 

RedRaider

Member
Are you alts all hunters? If they are the same class the game will nerf the power engrams if you have alts of the same type. To prevent power leveling.
Two alts so far (both hunters) and haven't started a third so that makes sense. Cheers mate. Thanks for the help.
 

Koh

Member
All three classes over 300 with only the flashpoints completed for this week. (A full set of 305 weapons made alt power leveling super quick.)

Now i get to build up an armory of weapons I actually want to use.
 

neoism

Member
how has guided games been going for people?

I'm tempted to try for the nightfall and raid, as I don't have a clan and never got to do any in Destiny 1, but it seems like it could be a crapshoot.

2 for 2 for me with the nf it takes like 20 mins to find one but yea beat it first try no one used mics
probably wont use it for the raid
 

Llyrwenne

Unconfirmed Member
I still don't understand the obsession with farming and all the light level guides. You can play any way you want and get rewarded and gain progression. With the weekly milestones, any speed bump you hit is only temporary.

This Faction Rally event is extremely generous with tokens; I got some 150 of them yesterday on my Titan from just working towards the Io Flashpoint and going through Lost Sectors on Earth. Faction Rally lasts through to the next weekly reset. There is absolutely no need to speed-farm these.

Destiny 1's Loot Cave I understood, because vanilla Destiny was extremely stingy with drops, but Destiny 2 is so much more generous that I just don't see the point of intentionally finding ways to burn through new content instantly.

Seems to me like some people actively want to burn through any new content instantly so they can go back to complaining how there's 'nothing to do'.

*Side note; The Chest Lockout Timer is ridiculous though and should be looked at.
 

Tovarisc

Member

You put the game down until December content release and play something else. Check out Divinity: Original Sin 2.

I still don't understand the obsession with farming and all the light level guides. You can play any way you want and get rewarded and gain progression. With the weekly milestones, any speed bump you hit is only temporary.

This Faction Rally event is extremely generous with tokens; I got some 150 of them yesterday on my Titan from just working towards the Io Flashpoint and going through Lost Sectors on Earth. Faction Rally lasts through to the next weekly reset. There is absolutely no need to speed-farm these.

Destiny 1's Loot Cave I understood, because vanilla Destiny was extremely stingy with drops, but Destiny 2 is so much more generous that I just don't see the point of intentionally finding ways to burn through new content instantly.

Seems to me like some people actively want to burn through any new content instantly so they can go back to complaining how there's 'nothing to do'.

*Side note; The Chest Lockout Timer is ridiculous though and should be looked at.

If event is extremely generous and makes it easy to burn through its content (read: get gear) you should expect Bungo to make it extremely not generous asap.
 

f@luS

More than a member.
I still don’t get how to have 300 engram from vendor. Been refreshing all planet with engram waiting max was 299 :( (I’m 305 of course )
 

GlamFM

Banned
I still don't understand the obsession with farming and all the light level guides. You can play any way you want and get rewarded and gain progression. With the weekly milestones, any speed bump you hit is only temporary.

This Faction Rally event is extremely generous with tokens; I got some 150 of them yesterday on my Titan from just working towards the Io Flashpoint and going through Lost Sectors on Earth. Faction Rally lasts through to the next weekly reset. There is absolutely no need to speed-farm these.

Destiny 1's Loot Cave I understood, because vanilla Destiny was extremely stingy with drops, but Destiny 2 is so much more generous that I just don't see the point of intentionally finding ways to burn through new content instantly.

Seems to me like some people actively want to burn through any new content instantly so they can go back to complaining how there's 'nothing to do'.

*Side note; The Chest Lockout Timer is ridiculous though and should be looked at.

I did it both ways and both ways can be fun.

At some point in D1 I ran 3 Titans and tried to be among the first for everything.

This time I´m running one character and I ignore all advice on how to level up most efficiently.

I´m still up to 302.
 

Llyrwenne

Unconfirmed Member
If event is extremely generous and makes it easy to burn through its content (read: get gear) you should expect Bungo to make it extremely not generous asap.
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The only thing I see happening is them changing the enemy supplies in Lost Sectors to once per day per character. It would kill the speed-farm and leave normal play unaffected. The people who use it to instantly burn through the content would cry, but who the hell cares when the base event is so extremely generous anyway?

Any activity in the game should be balanced around playing normally, not around people cheesing it to instantly burn through it.
I did it both ways and both ways can be fun.

At some point in D1 I ran 3 Titans and tried to be among the first for everything.

This time I´m running one character and I ignore all advice on how to level up most efficiently.

I´m still up to 302.
I have one of each class currently, my Titan and Warlock are both over 300 through regular play and I'm still finishing story on my Hunter. I really like how they made leveling alts faster in this game. ^w^
 

GlamFM

Banned
Well if that Warlock is any indication, you can work on your fashion for all 3, lol.

Sound advice. Destiny is a dress up sim after all.

Close to having the full raid set.

Working on the New Monarchy set as well.

Next up is the Vanguard set.

Aaaaaand the IB set soon. (Hopefully it looks as nice as the IB sets in D1)
 

Tovarisc

Member
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The only thing I see happening is them changing the enemy supplies in Lost Sectors to once per day per character. It would kill the speed-farm and leave normal play unaffected. The people who use it to instantly burn through the content would cry, but who the hell cares when the base event is so extremely generous anyway?

Any activity in the game should be balanced around playing normally, not around people cheesing it to instantly burn through it.

Bungo has long history of making their best to make thing unfun and slow grind so they nerf things that are generous, fast and/or fun. They love to artificially extend lifespan of content.
 

f@luS

More than a member.
I still don’t get how to have 300 engram from vendor. Been refreshing all planet with engram waiting max was 299 :( (I’m 305 of course )
Quoting myself. Still nothing 300

But I got a lot of 300 blue for weapons. So good to infuse hem 305 legendary
 

Ramirez

Member
Bungo has long history of making their best to make thing unfun and slow grind so they nerf things that are generous, fast and/or fun. They love to artificially extend lifespan of content.

Well look at how many people are crying that there's no grind in D2, they can't win either way.
 

Tovarisc

Member
Well look at how many people are crying that there's no grind in D2, they can't win either way.

If they had landed between grind shitshow that D1 was for longest time and generous shoveling of loot etc. into your pockets that currently is D2 I think it would have worked out. Happy medium, so to say.

tbh it did gave me laugh that players basically by accident blasted by even raid PL requirements during normal leveling process because how overly generous game is with PL progress.
 

Llyrwenne

Unconfirmed Member
Bungo has long history of making their best to make thing unfun and slow grind so they nerf things that are generous, fast and/or fun. They love to artificially extend lifespan of content.
Except Destiny 2 is very much more generous by their own design. No more need to upgrade weapons, no more materials needed to infuse weapons, much more generous Exotic and Legendary drops, a token system to earn Legendary gear through activities that didn't themselves give you one, being able to go for specific tokens if you want something from a specific set, weekly milestones that give you gear above your current level, clan system that gives the entire clan two more of those powerful engrams + a Trials engram and a Raid engram, no more RNG perk rolls on top of RNG gear drops, Xur practically giving away four Exotics for free every Friday, etc.

Even if they were to introduce some form of grind back into this, it would still be in an extremely good place. They could remove the Faction Token farm and slash the number of Tokens you get from activities in half and it would still be more than acceptable.
 

Bold One

Member
Game needs a court of oryx type arena, a big one that allows for vehicles and maybe some tower defence here and there, mechanics that allow for use of class abilities.

One thing is for sure, if Bungle want to see some forward momentum regular non paid content updates are a must and I don't mean festival of the lol.

One thing is certain, the osiris dlc needs to be TTK sized.
 

GlamFM

Banned
Game needs a court of oryx type arena, a big one that allows for vehicles and maybe some tower defence here and there, mechanics that allow for use of class abilities.

One thing is for sure, if Bungle want to see some forward momentum regular non paid content updates are a must and I don't mean festival of the lol.

One thing is certain, the osiris dlc needs to be TTK sized.

Don´t think it will be.

But I do think that the "Infinite Forest" could be something like an arena.

Jason Schreier thinks (or knows?) is could be something procedurally generated.
 

Ushay

Member
Damn the Warlock armour looks miles better for Future War Cult and New Monarchy. Totally played myself. So when do these faction loyalties reset?
 

Kyne

Member
'Court of Oryx' type plaza isn't a bad idea, but here's a more simple one..

Horde Mode!

Combine the aspect of CoO/PoE and allow a place for up to 6 guardians to spawn in and go ham. A much more casual alternative to raids and something to do with more people than usual. You can even put it in the guided games project. You're welcome Bungie.
 
Damn the Warlock armour looks miles better for Future War Cult and New Monarchy. Totally played myself. So when do these faction loyalties reset?

Currently loving the FWC Warlock chest armour with a NM shader. Probably causing faction frictions in the tower!
 
'Court of Oryx' type plaza isn't a bad idea, but here's a more simple one..

Horde Mode!

Combine the aspect of CoO/PoE and allow a place for up to 6 guardians to spawn in and go ham. A much more casual alternative to raids and something to do with more people than usual. You can even put it in the guided games project. You're welcome Bungie.

This. As much as i want a super intricate CoO PoE type arena section i'd love a simple horde mode that simply utilized the multiplayer maps. Load 3 (edit:6 could work too - allow for public matchmaking) players into a multiplayer map, spawn progressively more difficult baddies in with stages and mini-to-regular bosses and have loot chests every X-many round etc. Would be lots of fun and loads would play it given the correct rewards.
 

Bold One

Member
Don´t think it will be.

But I do think that the "Infinite Forest" could be something like an arena.

Jason Schreier thinks (or knows?) is could be something procedurally generated.
Really keen to see what they do if they're indeed going the procedural generation route.
 
Damn the Warlock armour looks miles better for Future War Cult and New Monarchy. Totally played myself. So when do these faction loyalties reset?

Me too. My dead orbit coat looks pretty crap. I might dump my hot-pink and violet shader on it to make it look even worse.
On the other hand, I got a Dire Promise DO-handcannon. It seems pretty good.

I realised I have to finish the campaign on my alt (PL279 right now!) to get to the factions in the tower. Time to speedrun those final missions that I've been putting off.

Lastly, I can confirm that attack damage is based on your gun's attack and not on your average power level. I tried using a 10-PL gun and it does crap damage against regular psions/legionaries despite my average PL still being >250. Upgrading it to 280 power made my Psion headshots go from about 30 to about 130.

So don't bother bringing underlevelled boss-killer power weapons to the raid/NF. Infuse them as high as possible, since the bosses will be PL 280 or something and take a lot less damage from a 270 weapon fresh from Xur.
 
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