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'Blade Runner 2049' Is A Box Office Disaster With Poor $13M Friday

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Raitosaito

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If ya’ll didn’t know, Deakins tends to personally respond to forum questions on his site. It’s great if you’re into the technicals of cinematography.
 
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Robot Carnival

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watched this last night and it's everything I want in a new Balde Runner movie. kinda want a little more of the
hologram girl
but I'm fine with the way it ended up.

btw, regarding the bad weekend box office, I didn't have time to read through the whole thread, but had the possibility that the Vegas shooting could have effected it's numbers been mentioned?
 
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Toparaman

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Bill R Boggess said:
The irony is that what happened to the original is now happening to the sequel:

Brilliant, evocative, and very cerebral genre film is released but alienates casual moviegoers.

What happens now will also mirror history:

Blade Runner 2049 will gradually become accepted as a masterpiece of filmmaking and will inspire ridiculous amounts of discussion and debate for years to come.

As it should.

I’m very glad this film got made, even if the box office tally is soft.
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I wonder if WB is betting on this as well, that basically it will be a longterm money maker with a multi-generational devoted fanbase over the course of several decades.

Also, I know a ton of people have commented on OP's "hot take", but it saddens me that anyone outside of the movie business would have the mentality that commercial viability overrides artistic integrity. I'd rather a movie be amazing and bomb than be nothing special and rake in dough.
 
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Rydeen

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Mango Madness said:
I wonder if WB is betting on this as well, that basically it will be a longterm money maker with a multi-generational devoted fanbase over the course of several decades.
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This is what I'm thinking, Blade Runner has been an "evergreen" title for WB the way classic Disney movies are to The House of Mouse. Every time it's re-released on a new format it sells well, so they understand the long-term investment they've made by being the North American distributor for this. I'd love to know the actual gross WB has made off the film since it's original 1982 run, I'm sure it's made it's money back and then some at this point.
 
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ronaldthump

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Bill R Boggess said:
The irony is that what happened to the original is now happening to the sequel:

Brilliant, evocative, and very cerebral genre film is released but alienates casual moviegoers.

What happens now will also mirror history:

Blade Runner 2049 will gradually become accepted as a masterpiece of filmmaking and will inspire ridiculous amounts of discussion and debate for years to come.

As it should.

I’m very glad this film got made, even if the box office tally is soft.
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I dont think BR2049 has the same sort of cache as you'd think it has. BR 1 lived in a world without social media platforms to push it and it slowly built up a reputation. BR2039 now lives in a world with readily available information + push + congested marketplace + streaming and its flopping. It's already in peak mode as is.

AND

for what its worth, the visuals and audio work is not ground breaking. Impressive yes, but not really that going to move any barometer for world building or story telling.
 
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berzeli

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Cross posting in spite of knowing this thread is bad for my sanity:
berzeli said:
So because I can't sleep I did more some more crunching on the Interstellar comparison offered earlier in the thread:

Code: 
		Blade Runner	Interstellar
Australia	$3,518,047	$3,622,811
Finland		$527,808	$391,433
Italy		$2,340,495	$3,604,199
Netherlands	$791,329	$868,376
New Zealand	$588,899	$527,865
(Interstellar did $487,100,000 internationally, over 72% of its total take was international)

Well, that's not conclusive. But it's not bombing everywhere at least.
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#FuckMendelson
 
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Isaac Otherworld

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Blade Runner 2049 has been my favorite movie this year. It's so frustrating that a movie this good is underperforming this badly when it deserves to be seen by as many people as possible. I had a feeling this would be the case. At my theater it's been consistently doing well, selling out all of it's prime time shows.

I'm not one to really get concerned or invested in how a movie performs but I don't think I've been this disappointed at a movie doing poorly since Pacific Rim did "Giant Robots Fighting" a million times better than the Transformers movie and got like 10% of the audience any one of those movies did.
 
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Ratrat

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ronaldthump said:
I dont think BR2049 has the same sort of cache as you'd think it has. BR 1 lived in a world without social media platforms to push it and it slowly built up a reputation. BR2039 now lives in a world with readily available information + push + congested marketplace + streaming and its flopping. It's already in peak mode as is.

AND

for what its worth, the visuals and audio work is not ground breaking. Impressive yes, but not really that going to move any barometer for world building or story telling.
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Yes.
The original created a whole genre(sorry Neuromancer). You can count SF movies with that much influence on one hand.
 
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berzeli

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ronaldthump said:
http://deadline.com/2017/10/blade-runner-2049-ryan-gosling-box-office-bomb-1202184297/


deadline with their blade runner 2049 Ryan Gosling Box office bomb....
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Well they updated their headline to "‘Blade Runner 2049’ Still Rusted With $36M+ Columbus Day Weekend Opening", but yeah. They're a much better source than Mendelson, even though they're overeager, go for bombastic headlines, they really need an editor to check people's use of the English language, are bad a predictions, and have an ugly as fuck site.

I'm not saying that this thread doesn't deserve to exist, I'm saying that the next time you want a vehicle for your hot takes use a decent source.
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realistically, can it still break even? but even then it would be disappointing
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Not really. Unless China goes really, really, really crazy for it. Which is very unlikely.
 
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Kvik

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Looks like the Finnish and the Kiwis has better taste than the Aussies. :p

I think some of the fault lies in how the trailers were cut. The studio in their benevolent wisdom decided the best way to market this film is by way of shootbang. Even Villeneuve/Deakins has expressed their displeasure about how the trailers were cut.

Of course, there's also that notion of audience wanting to be entertained, and caring less about picking up the subtleties and/or nuances (I called it the "idiot" factor :p)
 
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Aselith

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Kvik said:
(I called it the "idiot" factor :p)
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Se7enSword

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I haven't seen the first movie and my movie group isn't interested in 2049 so there's not really a reason for me to watch this in theatres.

I do, and am interested in catching up with these 2 movies at some point however.
 
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jett

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I'm watching some late night interviews with the BR cast out of curiosity, which they do literally just to promote the film, and they just sit there and instead of talking about the movie they talk about how they can't say anything about it, because they're prohibited by the studio from divulging any details about the plot.

This is so fucking stupid.

Ana de Armas literally can't even say what her role is LOL. Alcon did a really shit job at selling this movie. What kind of mentality is this.
 
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vinnygambini

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Just came out of the movie theater. I don't know if I enjoyed the film or hated it, I'm rather indifferent. I'm glad I saw it, but it's not a film I will revisit any time soon. I understand general audiences not "clicking" with the flick, but visually, it was a treat indeed.
 
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ronaldthump

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Se7enSword said:
I haven't seen the first movie and my movie group isn't interested in 2049 so there's not really a reason for me to watch this in theatres.

I do, and am interested in catching up with these 2 movies at some point however.
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for all the shit I say about 2049, its definitley worth ponying up the money to see this on a big screen with a good sound system
 
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Saudades

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Trago said:
Hopefully all of Asia pick up the slack.
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The early showing I went to in South Korea was packed up to C row - one of the few times I couldn't get my preferred mid-C/D row seat. But then again it was an early showing so it's prob more packed than normal.
The film has its wide release here in 2 days so I might go watch it again in a Dolby Atmos theater, just to do my part.
 
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brianmcdoogle

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I mentioned in the official thread, but I saw the movie today and I was the only person in a 400+ IMAX theater. Granted, I see movies at showtimes most don't go to, but it felt strange being in that giant theater all by myself. I've seen many movies where I'm the only one in the theater, but this was the biggest theater I've been in where I'm all alone.
 
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brianmcdoogle said:
I mentioned in the official thread, but I saw the movie today and I was the only person in a 400+ IMAX theater. Granted, I see movies at showtimes most don't go to, but it felt strange being in that giant theater all by myself. I've seen many movies where I'm the only one in the theater, but this was the biggest theater I've been in where I'm all alone.
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Talk about a misread on the market, wow. It's almost like people don't know the film exists.
 
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brianmcdoogle

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A-V-B said:
Talk about a misread on the market, wow. It's almost like people don't know the film exists.
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For comparison, there were more people (I.e., more than just me) when I saw Song to Song, Marjorie Prime, and Good Time this year.

In recent years, the ones I readily think of where I was all by myself were Pan, Young Adult, The Thing, Contagion, and A Bigger Splash. There's more that I'm not readily thinking of, though.

And the reason why I think and mention all of these is that they were in multiple theaters in my area and not just the arthouse theater.
 
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duckroll

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Einchy said:
There's no way he doesn't win this year.

He's gonna need to fight a bear to win.
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Sometimes I actually wonder. Do you think the thing that makes his cinematography so amazing to many people is the same thing that holds him back from recognition from the Academy? When every shot looks like something you can frame as a painting, it becomes a thing onto itself. By calling to attention how great it looks at all times, some could see this as an artificial and distracting contribution to a film.
 
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ronaldthump

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brianmcdoogle said:
I mentioned in the official thread, but I saw the movie today and I was the only person in a 400+ IMAX theater. Granted, I see movies at showtimes most don't go to, but it felt strange being in that giant theater all by myself. I've seen many movies where I'm the only one in the theater, but this was the biggest theater I've been in where I'm all alone.
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LOL. wow.
 
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blummer102

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Some of the posts in this thread make me depressed.

It was a very very good film. I think it'll slowly make back money over time through home release sales and become another cult favorite. Which is only appropriate for a franchise like Blade Runner.
 
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BocoDragon

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blummer102 said:
Some of the posts in this thread make me depressed.
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It's weird to see people describe how "inaccessible" and "boring" it is.

For me this seemed like a relatively mainstream sci-fi action movie.. just one that wasn't dumbed down to generic Hollywood formula (romanic interest, one liners, mindless platitudes about not giving up, etc).

People are talking about this like it's a Tarkovsky film or something, and I don't think I really understand. Maybe it just sucked in the wrong audience expecting base-level action and the right audience didn't hear about it?
 
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DiscoJer

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A-V-B said:
Talk about a misread on the market, wow. It's almost like people don't know the film exists.
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I don't know if it was a misread so much just as a mistake. How many big budget sequels to '80s movies that underperformed but developed a cult following have worked out well?

We have Tron. That might have broke even, I think.
We had The Thing. Same.
Conan? Flop. (The original Conan actually did fairly poorly, worse than the low budget The Sword and the Sorcerer)

Mad Max worked out thanks to good overseas
 
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BocoDragon said:
It's weird to see people describe how "inaccessible" and "boring" it is.

For me this seemed like a relatively mainstream sci-fi action movie.. just one that wasn't dumbed down to generic Hollywood formula (romanic interest, one liners, mindless platitudes about not giving up, etc).

People are talking about this like it's a Tarkovsky film or something, and I don't think I really understand. Maybe it just sucked in the wrong audience expecting base-level action and the right audience didn't hear about it?
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I expected it to be slow and it is still even slower than I thought, because the plot is much thinner than I expected, so the film is full of long pauses to stretch the running time an extra hour. It's like the guy was given carte blanche. There is no valid reason for this movie to be over 100 minutes long. Not enough happens in it, and I'm not talking about blockbuster action, I'm talking about plot.
 
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