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Horseshoe bus seats introduced to encourage passengers to talk to each other

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British buses have these. We used to get them pretty much every day on my college commute. We even played card games once. I think it was mostly just a way to get more seats around the wheel arches of double decker buses rather than some social engineering idea.

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That's nice that they clearly marked the darker blue spots for where to sit and the light blue spots for where to put your bag.
 

The Ummah

Banned
Everybody will be staring at their cell phones anyway, nobody talks to each other these days. Hello, it's 2017!

*teleports to France*
 

Kaiken

Banned
Doesn't work. We have seats on the CTA trains that face each other and everyone avoids making eye contact. It's more awkward than anything. I just sit there with my shades on and jamming to music through my headphones.
 
I would avoid that seat at all costs. Probably prefer standing actually. My local transit has single seats on their buses and I will always pick those if possible.
 
who ever designed those seats is a complete moron.

There is way less Leg Room for 6 passengers. It's a total mess.

Normally, the corner seat should have enough separator from the perpendicular seat.

Here? 6 passengers lose leg room
 

Kevyt

Member
Wow... I guess I shouldn't be surprised by the responses here since many of you are very anti-social and socially awkward (this is neogaf after all) it seems, and I am too, but I think this is a cool idea!
 

pablito

Member
People that know each other and take lunches together facing each other will still just look at their phones the whole time.

This is pointless.
 

JC Lately

Member
Wow... I guess I shouldn't be surprised by the responses here since many of you are very anti-social and socially awkward (this is neogaf after all) it seems, and I am too, but I think this is a cool idea!

You're one of those people at an airport/on a bus/in a waiting room/in line at the bank/etc who try to strike up a conversation with someone who is clearly reading a book, aren't you?
 

norm9

Member
Now you can stare at crazy eyes without turning your head because he's staring right at you, and your crotch, and perhaps your necklace he's gonna snatch.
 

oon

Banned
Given how prevalent harassment is on public transportation in most cities I've been to, this is a god-awful idea.
 

FairyD

Member
People are going to lay down and take a nap in the back. Some other asshole is going to put his/her feet on the seats. Another asshole will take up 3 seats to put their backpack and other bags on the seats. Then some fucking parent is going to bring a giant fucking stroller go all the way to the back sit down and take up the whole section by blocking it off with their stroller.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Somebody needs to recalculate the formula for where to sit on a bus now. It was pretty much figured out before but this changes everything
 
I'd actually be happy about something like this but seems like I'd be the vast minority going by the first page, which sort of kills the point. Sigh :(
 

Keri

Member
I use to spend hours on the bus, each day, commuting to college. About 10% of the time someone struck up a conversation with me, it was a nicer older person who was curious what I was studying. The other 90% of the time it was a creepy middle-aged man trying to hit on me or a really aggressive younger guy trying to hit on me.

So glad I have a car now.
 

gun_haver

Member
I use to spend hours on the bus, each day, commuting to college. About 10% of the time someone struck up a conversation with me, it was a nicer older person who was curious what I was studying. The other 90% of the time it was a creepy middle-aged man trying to hit on me or a really aggressive younger guy trying to hit on me.

Exactly, nothing good ever comes out of the mouth of strangers try to talk to you on public transport. I'm not a woman so all I get is drunk people, but I've seen the sleaze that goes on, too.

There are exceptions, like you said, with maybe some old people are just a bit dotty/curious and then you've got people with mental conditions who don't have inhibitions and ask you stuff. That's fine but y'know, you can easily tell when that's the case and not the usual kind of crap you get on public transport.
 

Trace

Banned
Ewwwwww, no.

The only people around here that talk on buses are either drunk, have a mental problem, or are talking way too loudly to friends.

The less talking on buses the better.
 
I've never seen anyone put up their legs to stop someone sitting on the seat next to them on public buses. You'd get thrown off the bus if you did, and someone needed to sit there. People do tend to take empty seats by preference but they'll sit next to people once those are occupied.

Metro-North riders fed up with man who sprawls out on train
Woman sits on man's feet after he refuses to move them off subway seat
MTA waging war on "man-spreaders"

And those are just the GAF threads I found searching for the Hipster Leprechaun.
 

Moose Biscuits

It would be extreamly painful...
You're seriously all maladjusted.

Good I hope this encourages more people make new friends. I can see it now a thread is made about how a stranger said hello to them and that it made them uncomfortable.

If I have the misfortune to sit in one of these seats and someone opposite me tries to spark up a conversation I will start talking about anime and firearms at them until they move away.
 
I read this study somebody did of commuters and found that people are actually happier when they've talked to other people on their commutes, which is... not actually surprising, but for some reason everybody assumes they'd be miserable talking to strangers on the bus/train.
 

HeySeuss

Member
This is going to sound like an old man yelling at clouds but millennials by and large lack either the desire or the skills to effectively communicate with others outside of social media. They've been raised on smartphones and tablets and internet and it's clearly had an impact on oral communication. Verbal skills are an important factor in many careers and it's definitely something I've noticed as a trainer and supervisor.

Having said that, I don't want to talk to people on a bus either. This is definitely not going to have the desired effect.
 

Moose Biscuits

It would be extreamly painful...
I read this study somebody did of commuters and found that people are actually happier when they've talked to other people on their commutes, which is... not actually surprising, but for some reason everybody assumes they'd be miserable talking to strangers on the bus/train.

There are a bunch of things I'd rather be doing than talking to someone on public transport, even if it's someone I know. Reading something on my phone, listening to a podcast or music, or staring into the middle distance while vigorously trying to think of anything else.
 
I don't want to talk to anyone on public transportation. No, I'm not "happier" when someone talks to me on the train. I'm happy when the train arrives and there's no delays and no one fapping on it.
 

Talka

Member
There's actually a lot of reliable research that shows spontaneous conversations, even among anxiety-ridden introverts, make people measurably happier.

If I remember it correctly, it's something like 80% of people say they don't want to talk to strangers on public transit and that talking with strangers has historically made them anxious and unhappy... and then, despite that, something like 80% of people actually forced to talk to strangers on public transportation report better moods immediately after the conversation and for several days thereafter.

That said, even knowing the research... yeah I don't want this.

It's been over a year since I read all the research, so I've probably got the details wrong. But the gist was: people tend to not want conversations and then tend to actually enjoy them, to a surprising degree.
 

jstripes

Banned
It's almost as bad as the seating in Toronto's new streetcars.

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You can't imagine the horror when the people of our city saw these.
 
So a crazy sitting anywhere on that makes *all* of those spots unviable.

No thanks.

Seriously, there are way too many fucking crazies on my daily commute. I don't want to relinquish more territory to em.
 
We've had buses with layout almost like this for forever where I live 10-15 years maybe.

Never saw strangers talk to each other. And this was before the iPhone too.
 

Occam

Member
No thank you, that's why I bring my PS Vita and headphones whenever I'm forced to use public transportation.
 

Weckum

Member
As a tall person: fuck off.

And those Toronto seats have been in European trains/buses for a long time. People still won't talk. And it's annoying for my knees.
 
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