KevinKeene
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This is supposed to be a follow-up discussion to this thread, with a new focus.
As we've fully established in the above thread, GamerGate isn't the evil, racist, misogynistic, women hating harassment movement that some want you to believe. Sure, there are idiots within GG, just like there are idiots within feminist, yet we don't demonize the latter. The big problem, however, that appears after coming this far: Who actually cares about educating the masses?
To this day, I've never seen any of the big gaming websites (kotaku, polygon, ign, eurogamer, etc) attempt in the slightest to correct the extremely one-sided image that GG currently carries in the mind of the mainstream. Whenever they mention GG, no matter the context, they'll just assume that GG is made of racists, misogynistic, harassers, and don't forget about the alt-right affiliation. This is used as established, true fact, and it's never questioned. And how could anyone?
I recently had a talk with someone from a bigger website, and the moment he realized I wasn't demonizing GG, he called me dumb and quit the conversation. And that's, I'm confident, exemplary for the overwhelming majority of all outlets.
It's snake that feeds on itself:
1) Call GG a harassment movement of all the worst people
2) Be scared/outraged when someone doesn't hate GG
3) return to 1)
And due the climate we're in, once a group is labeled as misogynistic, it's over. Because even only trying to correct a wrong statement bears the risk of bining associated with said group. And thus everyone keeps silence or nods without care.
With this in mind, it's no surprise why it seems to be impossible to have a nuanced debate about GG. I just don't what can be done. Because it's incredibly frustrating to continuously be dismissed or even insulted, all because I don't demonize a group that's basically against censorship and for the fun in games.
And like in the other thread: keep discussion civil and don't verbally murder each other.
As we've fully established in the above thread, GamerGate isn't the evil, racist, misogynistic, women hating harassment movement that some want you to believe. Sure, there are idiots within GG, just like there are idiots within feminist, yet we don't demonize the latter. The big problem, however, that appears after coming this far: Who actually cares about educating the masses?
To this day, I've never seen any of the big gaming websites (kotaku, polygon, ign, eurogamer, etc) attempt in the slightest to correct the extremely one-sided image that GG currently carries in the mind of the mainstream. Whenever they mention GG, no matter the context, they'll just assume that GG is made of racists, misogynistic, harassers, and don't forget about the alt-right affiliation. This is used as established, true fact, and it's never questioned. And how could anyone?
I recently had a talk with someone from a bigger website, and the moment he realized I wasn't demonizing GG, he called me dumb and quit the conversation. And that's, I'm confident, exemplary for the overwhelming majority of all outlets.
It's snake that feeds on itself:
1) Call GG a harassment movement of all the worst people
2) Be scared/outraged when someone doesn't hate GG
3) return to 1)
And due the climate we're in, once a group is labeled as misogynistic, it's over. Because even only trying to correct a wrong statement bears the risk of bining associated with said group. And thus everyone keeps silence or nods without care.
With this in mind, it's no surprise why it seems to be impossible to have a nuanced debate about GG. I just don't what can be done. Because it's incredibly frustrating to continuously be dismissed or even insulted, all because I don't demonize a group that's basically against censorship and for the fun in games.
And like in the other thread: keep discussion civil and don't verbally murder each other.
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