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God of War - Review Thread
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nowhat
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Define launch? UC4 sold 8.7M during 2016, but I'm willing to bet it sold much towards the tail end of the year too, what with the holiday season and sales. Given the reviews and that it's an established franchise, 8M is a reasonable estimate by the end of the year. Within a couple of weeks or month even? Highly unlikely, that'd mean over (or I'm not sure about the current PS4 sales, perhaps just about )10% attach rate. Which is very high for something else than a Nintendo exclusive (not dismissing, just a matter of fact).
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Nah reviews still matter. These people play games for a living. They tend to know what they are talking about.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
You can start downloading it now for those who purchased through PSN.
nowhat
Member
I guess it depends on your region... not yet here at least. Oh well, it says it'll auto-download (which in my experience doesn't always work, but I'll check back a bit later).
One thing I've never been able to understand though. I don't particularly care for any preorder bonuses, just that if I think I'll be spending a lot of time with a game, I'll get it digital to avoid changing disks. Yes, I'm that lazy (and the BR drive is noisy, even if it shuts down pretty quickly after verifying the disc is there when playing the game). As such, all the "bonus items" are just fluff, they'll outlive their usefulness in a game very quickly.
But I'm a sucker for a good theme, at least in theory (many of them suck). Why on earth are those locked to the release date? I should think it'd be good marketing to let people try the theme out before launch, just to build hype.
Hostile_18
Banned
Final Fantasy 7, Zelda OoT, Goldeneye, Half Life, the Last of Us, Deus Ex, Uncharted 2, Metal Gear Solid...
Gediminas
Banned
my guess was that 7M+ copies sold first month. but how i see, it is moving towards 10M+ first month.
Chip Chipperson
Banned
Midnight launches
Fuck thatMy local GS is selling copies at 9pm Thursday. They’ve been doing it for awhile with major releases.
Bönthö
Neo Member
Well, Uncharted 4 managed to sell just a bit shy of 3M in its first week, 8.7M in 2016 (8 months), but lifetime sales are somewhere around 10M. GOW could sell more and of course the customer base is bigger nowadays, but highly unlikely that it would pass UC with such a big margin.
DavidGzz
Member
Really? Mine still isn't available but I got a code I redeemed. It does say it will begin today but not sure on the time.
NovumAngel
Banned
I went ahead and posted the OT since I've seen some mention that they've gotten the game early.
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/god-of-war-ot-like-father-un-like-son.1462000/
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/god-of-war-ot-like-father-un-like-son.1462000/
Vawn
Banned
The hell I wouldn't!
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Aces&Eights
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True. My angle was more for those who are citing the inability to "trust" a reviewer for whatever reason. I mean, really, if you are on the fence about the game and you can't trust someone to give you a non-biased opinion and you want to know if you should spend your hard earned money on the game, then just watch an hour of gameplay on launch day.
Neolombax
Member
Give the game a rent and find out my man.
TheLaughingStock
Member
Maybe it's better than the open world games of that generation. Do you believe only open world games can be someone's favorite?
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Really looking forward to this. I hope it's better than the hype these places gave Uncharted 4.
Don't get me wrong, Uncharted 4 was a fine if not outstanding game. But it definitely didn't deserve the slobbering the reviews gave it imo.
Don't get me wrong, Uncharted 4 was a fine if not outstanding game. But it definitely didn't deserve the slobbering the reviews gave it imo.
GenericUser
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I feel ya. I like the uncharted games, but I personally don't find them anything super special (apart from the graphics). I think GoW has more potential then uncharted though. Think about the fact, that they claim that the combat system is "souls like". If they really are able to mimic that feeling, that alone would make the game so much fun. Combine that with superior tech, interesting lore and big undiscovered nordic landscapes - it *could* be really awesome, if you ask me.
We'll see on friday. I'll be the first to shit on the game if it becomes a borefest walking simulator, but I doubt this will happen.
Top_Gunner_82
Member
Can't wait for this but my new job means I'll get an hour a day max to play arrrgggg
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
God of War PS4 Review -- CLS Side Quest
An absolutely amazing game, but it has it's issues. Some of it sounds like Horizon which I adored.
I'm really looking forward to playing this!
An absolutely amazing game, but it has it's issues. Some of it sounds like Horizon which I adored.
I'm really looking forward to playing this!
Danjin44
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I hope not. I personally hated Horizon so I hope this game is nothing like that. USgamer give it high score for this even tho they didn't like Horizon and SkillUp also didn't liked Horizon but really liked the new GOW, so there is still hope.
Orpheum
Member
Great! looking forward to it
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
What did you hate about Horizon?
Personally, I wasn't exactly a fan of the combat, but what drew me in was the story and the world they created. I scoured the world for every single nugget about what happened before and when the end game happened, I was emotionally involved.
I've been looking for something like a vaatividya (who makes Souls lore videos) type deep dive on the lore since then. It sucked me in that hard.
Danjin44
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RiccochetJ
: I personally didn't like story or the characters, especially Aloy, she felt so dry for me. I also didn't like how this game advertise itself as RPG but felt I was playing a shooter, even the bow felt less like bow more like a gun. The only interesting part of story I like was about
But I hate the way developers decide to tell this story with audio logs after audio logs after audio logs.
What I hate the most of all about this game is open world design. You are very limited exploration option and doesn't really reward you for exploring like finding cool weapons or armour or even cool secret machines to fight. This game doesn't even trust you find Tallnecks on your own, they already on the map for you and even on misty area you haven't explore yet and not only that Aloy will informs you that she detects Tallneck signals. Once you activate those, it doesn't just reveal the map but it also reveal bandit camps and cauldron locations for you. It really felt like they design the open world for people who don't like exploring to find things on their own.
I know some people will have issue with me saying this but game really felt like I was playing Ubisoft game with much better art direction and I know there lot of people enjoy most Ubisoft games but I personally don't like them and didn't think I had to worry about that as long as I don't play Ubisoft games but I guess I was wrong.
RiccochetJ
: I personally didn't like story or the characters, especially Aloy, she felt so dry for me. I also didn't like how this game advertise itself as RPG but felt I was playing a shooter, even the bow felt less like bow more like a gun. The only interesting part of story I like was about
Zero Dawn project
What I hate the most of all about this game is open world design. You are very limited exploration option and doesn't really reward you for exploring like finding cool weapons or armour or even cool secret machines to fight. This game doesn't even trust you find Tallnecks on your own, they already on the map for you and even on misty area you haven't explore yet and not only that Aloy will informs you that she detects Tallneck signals. Once you activate those, it doesn't just reveal the map but it also reveal bandit camps and cauldron locations for you. It really felt like they design the open world for people who don't like exploring to find things on their own.
I know some people will have issue with me saying this but game really felt like I was playing Ubisoft game with much better art direction and I know there lot of people enjoy most Ubisoft games but I personally don't like them and didn't think I had to worry about that as long as I don't play Ubisoft games but I guess I was wrong.
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Gradly
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@But I hate the way developers decide to tell this story with audio logs after audio logs after audio logs.Zero Dawn project
What I hate the most of all about this game is open world design. You are very limited exploration option and doesn't really reward you for exploring like finding cool weapons or armour or even cool secret machines to fight. This game doesn't even trust you find Tallnecks on your own, they already on the map for you and even on misty area you haven't explore yet and not only that Aloy will informs you that she detects Tallneck signals. Once you activate those, it doesn't just reveal the map but it also reveal bandit camps and cauldron locations for you. It really felt like they design the open world for people who don't like exploring to find things on their own.
I know some people will have issue with me saying this but game really felt like I was playing Ubisoft game with much better art direction and I know there lot of people enjoy most Ubisoft games but I personally don't like them and didn't think I had to worry about that as long as I don't play Ubisoft games but I guess I was wrong.
I played the game knowing that it's a 3rd person action adventure with some RPG elements. I don't remember it was advertised or claimed to be other than that. Anyway, I respect your opinion but games need to be accessible as well, not all players (I'm one of them) want to be overwhelmed or get frustrated searching a massive world, not everybody young and have the patience to try over and over again so they can find challenge and enjoy the game, etc sometimes things need to be easy and hinted at. Persoanlly, I wouldn't spend +110 hours in this game if it was way more challenging.
Anyway, I can't wait to get home and preload GOW. So excited
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Coulomb_Barrier
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GOTG of War.
Game of the Generation. 95 Metacritic average.
Game of the Generation. 95 Metacritic average.
daibaron
Banned
Final Fantasy 7, Zelda OoT, Goldeneye, Half Life, the Last of Us, Deus Ex, Uncharted 2, Metal Gear Solid...
And very big level games can be better focused and almost have the same effect of open world.
Armorian
Banned
GOW could be a perfect mix of freedom and focus as you can return to previous areas. Dark Souls like open world is perfect for me.
NovumAngel
Banned
In the OT itself? or the thread in general?
In the OT I have a small section with the basic outline of the story and a story trailer.
Other than that there's no spoilers posted.
nowhat
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Yeah, on a personal level I tried to keep myself as spoiler-free as possible before playing HZD and... it was more of an RPG than I anticipated, yet it very much is an RPG-lite. It is an action game that incorporates some RPG-like elements (and one of the most fluid on-the-fly crafting systems I've seen yet, I really like the ammo crafting mid-battle), one that borrows liberally from multiple sources (not only Ubisoft). Myself I enjoyed it a lot - not because it's open-world, but rather despite of it, the core narrative (discovering how the world came to be as it is) is intriguing. In the inevitable sequel I hope Guerrilla comes up with some of their original mechanics as well and I'd so much like meaningful (there are a couple of instances where Aloy can decide if a person lives or not, but in the end it really doesn't matter) branching in the story too - but as a first entry into a franchise I think Guerrilla did great. Not to mention the technical side of things, Decima is really an amazing engine.
But that's enough offtopic for now, I seriously don't know why we're debating HZD in this thread. By all accounts, what the upcoming GoW will have in common with HZD is... the publisher. OK, supposedly the first-party studios share some tech too.
GenericUser
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Even people here at work go crazy about the new GoW. "Won't leave the Playstation on weekend" is the most heard sentence here today. The hype is real.
MaximusPayne
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Maybe they were going for something like the Spiderman 2 PS2 box art. I didn't mind it. Generic Kratos looking mean look.
GenericUser
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mckmas8808
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This is awesome.
Hotel Security
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I agree with this for the most part...I definitely trust these guys more than most reviewers. Plus these guys are paid a salary so there's less need for them to take money to do a good review or to do a "hot take" review where they say something outlandish to get clicks on their vidblog.
With that said, professional reviewers don't know shit about hack and slash games. The diehards know about what games have great mechanics and which don't and these things are often ignored by pro reviewers who focus too much on plot and atmosphere and other garbage that the hack and slash diehards couldn't care less about. So, for hack and slash games, I tend to be less into pro reviews since they're not reviewing what is most important to the biggest fans of the genre.
Though, given that GoW isn't even a hack and slash series anymore I guess this point is moot but it's pretty painful seeing these pathetic mechanics and dumbed-down combat get high praise...these folks never had a clue what made GoW great. No one who enjoyed the mechanics of the early GoW games are the least bit impressed by this new model.
This game is getting hype because Sony has thrown their entire advertising campaign behind it and people like pretty graphics and cookie-cutter plotlines of redemption. This is not a game for God of War fans.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I'm a huge GoW fan and I'm super hyped for it for more reasons than the graphics. Maybe you need to understand that many GoW fans were into the series for more than the original gameplay. So changing the perspective and gameplay for me isn't an issue as long as it's fun.
Hotel Security
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What is there to be into? The graphics are nice but the plotline outside of the very first game was paper-thin, filled with plotholes, and later games threw out retcons left and right to try to pathetically convince us that Kratos' choices weren't his fault. It's a hack and slash game. Hacking and slashing is literally what you do for 95% of the time you spend with the game. What else is there to be into but combat, combat, combat?
And I'm a lil tired of seeing the "the formula got old" comment. It didn't get old...we just wanted a game that didn't butcher the mechanics like Ascension did. Then Ascension didn't sell well and Sony ignored the fact that they butchered the game and made up this "it got old" narrative while ignoring their own mistakes. And, boy, had they promoted Ascension as heavily as they've promoted this one, it sure would have gotten more attention.
I'm not saying this game won't be good but it's sad seeing the combat be praised in it...it pales in comparison to what we used to have.
Zimmy68
Member
The reviews made a difference for me. I was always getting the game but felt I could wait since I am still playing FC5.
But seeing everyone is giving 10/10, which even if you are cynical is still rare, I put in my preorder at Best Buy.
Anyone else worried about the 4k performance issues that Polygon wrote an article about.
They basically said, if you have a 4k tv, play 1080p performance mode.
Haven't seen it mentioned here yet.
But seeing everyone is giving 10/10, which even if you are cynical is still rare, I put in my preorder at Best Buy.
Anyone else worried about the 4k performance issues that Polygon wrote an article about.
They basically said, if you have a 4k tv, play 1080p performance mode.
Haven't seen it mentioned here yet.
nowhat
Member
OK, a few points - have you played the game? Many of the reviewers have, I'm assuming, and "dumbed-down" is not an adjective I've come across often when describing the combat. Many of those reviewers have also proclaimed being fans of the series. But no true scotsman, amirite?
And second, while I believe individual reviewers may certainly be "encouraged" (or bribed, if you will) to give good review scores, when the results are overwhelmingly positive across the board, perhaps the reviewers indeed like the game. I somehow find that more likely than some more tinfoily stuff. Microsoft absolutely went to town with the marketing of SoT*) (there
*) This is not in any shape or form a critique of said game, just an analogy. Having a huge marketing budget does not guarantee great reviews.
Edit: perhaps it's a "feature" of the new layout, now there's a FC5 section. But at least on that site, the marketing for said game was still so ridiculous. I mean, seriously, there were articles like this: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-03-22-sea-of-thieves-is-secretly-a-pen-and-paper-rpg - which anyone who ever has played either pen&paper RPGs or SoT could say is bullshit.
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Danjin44
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I also LOVE pervious GOW games and I can understand your concerns because I was in same position as you not too long a go. But what I love about GOW is not the amount of combo you can do because if that was the case, both DMC and Bayonetta blows GOW out of the water. I what really like about core combat of GOW is when you play it in hardest difficulty and you see how clever the enemies replacements really are. Now you are more concern which enemy you want got after first or which enemy you want to keep alive to use its abilities on others rather than the amount of combo you can pull off. My biggest worry with this new GOW was when they first show off the gameplay for first time and I saw Kratos fighting an enemy while other enemies just waiting around, but base on most reviews I have read or listen it seems thats not the case and not only that, it also throws bunch of different type of enemies at you to fight and just like pervious GOW you need choose which enemy have to go after first and Also reviews confirmed there will indeed have boss fights and some unique encounters in some of side quests which makes very happy.
If you don't completely trust the reviewers then you either play it yourself or watch one of those lets plays (but honestly you wont know how the combat really feels by watching lets play)
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it_wasn't_me
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Really didn't expect that game will surpass TLOU on best of all time list.
Refreshing, because I find open world games quite boring 95% of the time. I almost never finish them. If I do, I do it in the most direct path possible to avoid getting bored out of my mind.