Mochilador
Member
Wow, this is not good. You don't need to "cancel" your E3 conference in order to announce a console. Just look at the PS4 and Xbox One. Both announced before E3 and they still had their conferences.
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PlayStation Will Not Host an E3 Conference or Appear at E3 2019
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Dabaus
Banned
Cross posting from another thread:
I think Sony are stupid for skipping e3 altogether but it makes sense if their dick deep in ps5 development. I think they’re purposely keeping ps5 specs close to the chest for as long as possible to keep Microsoft guessing. If it takes about 2 years to design a console and be locked in then this is actually pretty smart for confusing Microsoft, assuming that’s the play here. Microsoft, not Sony have backed themselves into a corner saying they will be the most powerful console, but how can that make that claim without knowing what Sony is doing? Maybe they have inside contacts and already know, maybe they don’t.
I think Sony are stupid for skipping e3 altogether but it makes sense if their dick deep in ps5 development. I think they’re purposely keeping ps5 specs close to the chest for as long as possible to keep Microsoft guessing. If it takes about 2 years to design a console and be locked in then this is actually pretty smart for confusing Microsoft, assuming that’s the play here. Microsoft, not Sony have backed themselves into a corner saying they will be the most powerful console, but how can that make that claim without knowing what Sony is doing? Maybe they have inside contacts and already know, maybe they don’t.
Noctis114
Neo Member
Just posted this in the PS5 leak thread about how Sony's release roadmap will looking like for the PS5 based on all the news we've heard today and based on how the PS4 released.
PSX 2019 will be to the PS5 what the PlayStation meeting 2013 was to the PS4, an end of the year conference thats already been established by Sony to tease the next year of gaming, just like the PSM they'll officially announce the PS5 and talk mostly about its specs and improvements over its predecessor and maybe show of about a few games running on the PS5. Not sure if Sony will have some sort of presence at the GDC 2013, maybe a keynote speech detailing more about the PS5's specs by Mark Cerny.
Next major event will be of course E3 2020 where they will fully reveal the design of the console, show a ton of next gen games and give us the price and release date of the PS5 which i expect it to be roughly $399 launching in Q4 2020 in time for the PlayStation 25th anniversary, where they will also release a limited edition PS5 with the classic PS1 skin akin to what they did for the PS4 back in the 20th anniversary of PlayStation.
PSX 2019 will be to the PS5 what the PlayStation meeting 2013 was to the PS4, an end of the year conference thats already been established by Sony to tease the next year of gaming, just like the PSM they'll officially announce the PS5 and talk mostly about its specs and improvements over its predecessor and maybe show of about a few games running on the PS5. Not sure if Sony will have some sort of presence at the GDC 2013, maybe a keynote speech detailing more about the PS5's specs by Mark Cerny.
Next major event will be of course E3 2020 where they will fully reveal the design of the console, show a ton of next gen games and give us the price and release date of the PS5 which i expect it to be roughly $399 launching in Q4 2020 in time for the PlayStation 25th anniversary, where they will also release a limited edition PS5 with the classic PS1 skin akin to what they did for the PS4 back in the 20th anniversary of PlayStation.
InterMusketeer
Member
Not having any games to show never stopped Microsoft or Nintendo (and many other companies) from attending E3 or at least doing some kind of stream. Ya gotta at least pretend you've got something going on Sony.
Salty Popsicle
Banned
Microsoft innovates in their console design to squeak out every little bit of power from the hardware as possible. No one thought mass market steam chambers inside consoles would be possible or viable, yet MS did it with the Xbox One X. Expect more amazing designs with their next console. The Microsoft Surface hardware/design team is one of the best in the world.
Petrae
Member
Nah. They really don’t. By sharing and showing video of the games running (and of people playing them), the same effect can be had. I would expect publishers and possibly platform holders to invite YouTube and Twitch influencers to company premises or neutral sites to play and report on the games. No need for extravagant (and high overhead) events to get somewhat more hands on the product.
We almost certainly won’t see a year of silence, though. Sony will likely still be active with announcements and related video content as certain games get closer to release. It’s not out of the realm of possibility that Sony follows a similar path to Nintendo and runs periodic video presentations talking about certain releases.
A year without extravagant showcases? Maybe so... but there’s a rapidly declining need for these kinds of events. They’re wastes of money and time.
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Salty Popsicle
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Twitch has been around for 7 years. If they didn't need MS, Sony, or Nintendo then they would have cut them off from the marketing aspect years ago.
Dabaus
Banned
I mean if you say so lol
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Noctis114
Neo Member
I don't know man, i've always loved big gaming events like E3, it's like the Superbowl to me lol. a time when the entire community comes together and gets hyped up.
Until the following day when the fanboy wars ignite even harder haha.
ramuh
Member
I think this is about making sure, that they get all their cards right for their next launch. I think people forget how much Sony rely's on their games division. They have to be putting in long work for their next launch. They have to nail this. Maybe if XBOX had some severe announcements (not service stuff but ya know actually first party stuff) they would have had something. I also think E3 has lessen (although still huge) its impact on game announcements. Guys and Gals we in the home stretch, they are stuffing the channels for the next release. I'm sure when e3 ( or ps direct 2019/2020) comes along this isn't going to be a big deal. Lets focus on the future. Im ready!
Salty Popsicle
Banned
I do say so lol
iconmaster
Banned
This was just retweeted into my timeline
...by @KazHiraiCEO
...by @KazHiraiCEO
BlackProdigy
Member
Microsoft conference got to be a home run
abacab driver
Banned
Mochilador said:
Precisely.
The only logical reason I can think of is that the content is just not there right now.
Noctis114 said:
You better believe it!
Mattyp
Gold Member
The surface team make some of the best looking and quality hardware in the world, its shone through in the last 2 xbox revisions don't think anyone would ever doubt the engineers who bring you products like the studio/book/laptop range.
The difference between the X & Pro is night and day.
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HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
Calm down, it's just a new marketing strategy.
Also, what is it with all the peeps here who are still in denial of a 2019 PS5 launch? Yes, yes, I know. It's not a given, even at this point. But all signs point at least to a 2019 reveal. What's so bad about that?
Louis Cyphre
Banned
Most rational people would say so. Ever since the S model Microsoft has been making great hardware. The Surface and the Xbox One X have been very well crafted and engineered. There is nothing really to dispute.
The key area is course moving forward is software, which is why they have been making so many announcements on improving their 1st party portfolio. But make no mistake, the next Xbox is going to be beautifully crafted.
Sony is not going to lie down quietly, I expect the PS5 hardware to continue to be a very well crafted piece of machinery and I'm so happy they are dropping the proprietary nonsense since the PS4 came out. Whether they offer free ps4 BC is questionable but I'm hoping they drop the arrogant attitude and do it.
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LuvOfThaGame
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I wonder how Sony's 3rd party partnerships will take this news. Games like Call of Duty get alot of press from MS and Sony from e3. Could this also be a sign that MS is going all out and next years big AAA 3rd party games are coming back home to Xbox?
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
Nothing to announce for a year? I hope their machine has bc or it will launch with nothing lmao.
Silent Viper
Banned
Boy Microsoft will bring the heat. Sony is scared. Now Sony has no games to show
Mozza
Member
Without a doubt Microsoft will be trying to get their share back with the next Xbox console,still not sure if attending next years E3 will do that for them,I would say their best chance would be to get the machine out before Sony just like with the Xbox 360.
TLZ
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xviper
Member
i don't think they are gonna announce ps5 in 2019, if they did they would have a conference
they simply don't have any more games to show for the ps4, look at e3 2018, they showed nothing new
this proves that what the ps4 has left now is Days gone, Ghost, TLOU 2 and Death Stranding
i don't know why people want a ps5 so quickly, the ps4 is doing well, look at RDR 2, it's stunning and it runs perfectly, i remember back when the ps3 was struggling to run BF3 because it was mind blowing how good looking it was, people wanted ps4 because the ps3 was struggling to run games in it's last years, there was a reason for that, but now there is no reason, the ps4 is doing fine, i think the ps5 should come me out in 2021
they simply don't have any more games to show for the ps4, look at e3 2018, they showed nothing new
this proves that what the ps4 has left now is Days gone, Ghost, TLOU 2 and Death Stranding
i don't know why people want a ps5 so quickly, the ps4 is doing well, look at RDR 2, it's stunning and it runs perfectly, i remember back when the ps3 was struggling to run BF3 because it was mind blowing how good looking it was, people wanted ps4 because the ps3 was struggling to run games in it's last years, there was a reason for that, but now there is no reason, the ps4 is doing fine, i think the ps5 should come me out in 2021
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
Why invent cars when carriages are working just fine? Don't be so boring. New tech is exciting. Bring it on. Standing still is no use to anyone.
Skyfox
Member
Oh man that’d be hilarious
xviper
Member
sure, new tech is exciting, but it's not fun changing consoles every couple of years, the PRO came out 2 years ago and i have friends who upgraded their base to PRO, so to let them buy another console so soon is a waste, as for me, i bought the ps4 early 2014 and i'm not gonna upgrade to the PRO because i'm happy with the current one
i don't think the ps4 had enough, there is still more to it, if ps5 came too early we may not see any big leap, let them take their time so we can see something huge like the leap from ps2 to ps3, let them their time so Deep Down can actually come out
Johnny Cage In The Shower
Member
This may come off as unpopular opinion: But I totally blame this on the rabid fans, for the past 4-5 years Sony (The Playstation Brand) has put all their chips in the "appeasing the fan base" pot, and as they gradually moved form a strong PS3 send off to a even better (one of the best) new console reveals with the PS4 .. They have done a good job, listening and keeping up with the fans , and finally last year their hype kind of died down and they could no more deliver the E3 fan service experience wave they had been riding on... And now it clearly seems like their main focus and energy is on developing the PS5 and NOT on brand new IPs and PS4 SOFTWARE hype... They don't want to show up at E3 again and do a half assed show and "piss" off the fans, because they gotten to a point where they are very insecure about their relationship with their fans, they always want to appease and satisfy them.
Like a teenage boy that refuses to show up at the house party, because he crushes on this girl too much and is nervous that he may disappoint her at the party and there will be other duded there that she may find cooler than him.. Basically you cannot be the confirmed loser at the party if you don't show up... "Can't lose the game if you don't play" etc.
Anyway, not sure how I exactly feel about this, on one hand it's a wise choice, as this will give them more of clear focus on the development of their next console. Might even be a good strategy to keep their cards face down and NOT show the competition what they are up to, while observing closely what their competition IS up to. ( Because let's face it, what's console wars between two gaming giants but to always try to one up each other with power and technology, while still being able to balance a profit margin?)
While on the other hand, they are the market leader at the moment, they should make their presence known, flex their muscles etc. Brag about some stupid sales numbers etc. And maybe even come clean about why they don't have much to show this year, without at all even hinting at PS5 development, unless they want to etc. Anyway, best of luck to them.
Like a teenage boy that refuses to show up at the house party, because he crushes on this girl too much and is nervous that he may disappoint her at the party and there will be other duded there that she may find cooler than him.. Basically you cannot be the confirmed loser at the party if you don't show up... "Can't lose the game if you don't play" etc.
Anyway, not sure how I exactly feel about this, on one hand it's a wise choice, as this will give them more of clear focus on the development of their next console. Might even be a good strategy to keep their cards face down and NOT show the competition what they are up to, while observing closely what their competition IS up to. ( Because let's face it, what's console wars between two gaming giants but to always try to one up each other with power and technology, while still being able to balance a profit margin?)
While on the other hand, they are the market leader at the moment, they should make their presence known, flex their muscles etc. Brag about some stupid sales numbers etc. And maybe even come clean about why they don't have much to show this year, without at all even hinting at PS5 development, unless they want to etc. Anyway, best of luck to them.
Kerotan
Member
MS won't launch in 2019. Way too close to the xbox x. Your idea of march 2020 sounds good. Get those big launch sales but give it time to resupply the channels for the holiday. And MS will likely target holiday 2020 so there's a chance you get out of the blocks first. At the very worst you'll be a few months after them if they lunch holiday 2019 which is unlikely.
Isn't December 3rd 2019 25 years to the day since the ps1 launched. Chances of a PSX on that day that announces the ps5? I could see them giving it a teaser and then the full reveal in February. And it's here they'll announce all the details and a launch later in 2020. Ideally late summer or early Autumn before the holidays.
J3nga
Member
Huh? The input lag is just crazy, fps drops here and there, blurry image, should I go on? I hope new consoles generation gets rid of those(or somewhat minimizes) and comes closer to PC experience(closer, not there, you can't have cheap price for the hardware and same performance as PC).
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
But it is... I bought an OLED TV last year and the HDR boost from it blew me away more than the jump from PS2 to PS3 and yet here I am, ready for PS5. You're old mate.
I'm sure the tech is here for a great jump - if they invest in it and perhaps take a risk again. Which is exactly what I want them to do again. They have the moneyz, so go for it. I want it to be like back in the old days when new consoles blew away even the current PCs.
xviper
Member
that's just how Rockstar games play, even GTA V on ps4 has similar problems
Dr.brain64
Member
Don't care. They may be doing something different now. Good. I am definitely curious and I'm looking forward to it.
TLZ
Banned
Twitter.
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
Be arsed reading the entire thread, but good. As a lifelong Sony fan they absolutely didn't need a conference this year, they could've just shown those videos on a stream. No point whatsoever in having a conference if all you're gonna do is show footage from games we already know are coming. Microsoft needed their presentation to talk to the fans and it went really well.
PS4 was announced in a February, they don't need E3 for it.
The RDR2 input lag isn't down to hardware, it's how the game's built, for better or worse.
PS4 was announced in a February, they don't need E3 for it.
The RDR2 input lag isn't down to hardware, it's how the game's built, for better or worse.
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Ozrimandias
Member
I am not in e3, I do not see it as something negative, it is probably an opportunity, all the press in the most relevant publisher of the last years in an exclusive event, if you want to generate an impact, you should not share the press with others that probably want to cause the same. Sony is in the dilemma, not put a brake on sales of PS4 but at the same time generate the expectation of a new generation of console. When that generation is likely to share the titles of the current one, you probably lose interest in buying a new console.
Pallas
Member
This kind of confirms that it’ll be released in 2020, with a reveal sometime in 2019. Believe Sony has stated that due to lack of new games to present that nothing new would be shown if they did E3. So I’m not too surprised, curious how Nintendo and Microsoft will react to this and if it’ll change their current plans/strategies.
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AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
I can't see Nintendo ever coming back. Directs work for them just fine, it's always gonna be way easier to do a Direct around the time of E3. Microsoft will actually probably have some new stuff to show, between what we only got a glimpse at this year and the new studio acquisitions.
Honestly, as much as I love the hype and showmanship around E3, staying up late (in England) to catch the shows, playing drinking games with friends and laughing at all the cringiness... it's quite overblown and mostly unnecessary. Sony's E3 2018 had some amazing footage but the event itself was a farce.
onlyoneno1
Member
So Sony has got nothing to show?