No but it is a brand new platform. Steam didn’t launch with all that good stuff.
Can't wait for the eventual steam release after it flops.
It could be that more people buy the game from Uplay and Ubisoft realise that they don't need Steam.
It could be that more people buy the game from Uplay and Ubisoft realise that they don't need Steam.
You could be right, but it's still money left off the table. From the almost unanimous hate I see for Uplay, and the skepticism against the Epic store, I can't see them making up lost steam sales between the two stores. Will be interesting to see though.
You could be right, but it's still money left off the table. From the almost unanimous hate I see for Uplay, and the skepticism against the Epic store, I can't see them making up lost steam sales between the two stores. Will be interesting to see though.
Can't wait for the eventual steam release after it flops.
I’m just gonna go the Uplay route
The problem is though. I suspect Epic will have tied them into some timed exclusivity deal as they have with the other 3rd party titles on the platform, which means there's likely zero chance they'd be able to leverage any zeitgeist for the game if they do try and bring it to Steam afterwards.
Didn't think of that. Generally interested to see the adoption rate of the Epic store as it seems to be missing key features that Steam has in spades. Does it even have forums yet?
What makes no sense is your ability to ignore the pros for Ubisoft while touting the cons for you.
Oh wait, that last one makes perfect sense for an internet forum. There always no shortage of people who have very little data willing to question the decisions of those who have all the data.
Not my problem that a company earning billions launches a 2004 product in 2019.
Would you adopt a new console or phone with 2004 online capabilities?
Maybe Valve should start making games again?
Honestly, I think I just crossed over threads from a different forum. Hahahaha.Will that help me getting Ubisoft games from Steam?
Does it even matter? Even on Epic Store it will still launch uPlay anyway before you can actually play the game. I just buy all their games boxed
Not my problem that a company earning billions launches a 2004 product in 2019.
Would you adopt a new console or phone with 2004 online capabilities?
It could be that more people buy the game from Uplay and Ubisoft realise that they don't need Steam.
Let's look at the The Division 1.
During its launch week The Division had a peak concurrency of 1.2 million players and 113,000 of those were playing through Steam. So, Steam represented a max of 10% of The Division's player base.
Which means that The Division 2 is just fine without Steam.
I’m just gonna go the Uplay route
Let's look at the The Division 1.
During its launch week The Division had a peak concurrency of 1.2 million players and 113,000 of those were playing through Steam. So, Steam represented a max of 10% of The Division's player base.
Which means that The Division 2 is just fine without Steam.
Im getting the numbers from UbisoftCan you cite your source on these numbers because 1.2 peak concurrency is a hell of a lot. Generally, at best you're only looking at 10% of a games user base online at any one point in time globally and the Division certainly didn't ship 12 million copies in its first week let alone on PC. Where are your numbers coming from exactly?
Im getting the numbers from Ubisoft
https://news.ubisoft.com/en-us/arti...iggest-first-week-ever-for-new-game-franchise
yep estimation is it sold about 2+ million which is about double that of recent steam releases.It apparently didn't hurt CoD on PC when they switched launcher.
I dont think Ubisoft cares where the sales come from. A sales is a sale.Ok, but that's across all platforms, not just PC. It's pretty much a given that the bulk of sales for AAA are on consoles for the most part. I'd imagine with regard to the actual sales on PC, Steam likely represented a fair chunk of that audience versus Uplay sales only. Let's say we are being generous and the 113K players you mention as concurrent on Steam (no source given there) represents 20% of the initial sales during the first-week zeitgeist with a lot of overlap you'd still be talking around 565K users on Steam in that period. I would imagine it only got higher after that.
The 113,000 for Steam comes from SteamCharts. You can look that up yourself. SteamCharts also shows that after the first month concurrency dropped sharply on Steam and never recovered.
Also, you are likely vastly overestimating the common person's attachment to Steam. I have some friends that played The Division on PC, I think a couple played on Steam and I can tell you that none of them are of the "no steam no buy" mentality.
I could give more figures for The Division 1 like estimated first week sales, first month sales and more but at this point .....why bother. Some people will skip The Division 2 entirely just because its not on Steam but most will just get the game for some other platform.
When concurrency on Steam drops by half every month for the first 6 months Im not going to think "oh, gee, look at those numbers, everyone playing must be on Steam" especially with the sales estimates.Strong concurrency rarely extends beyond the honeymoon period unless you're talking a behemoth like GTA V, which outsells everything by a country mile. As for PC sales of D2, well with that we'll have to wait and see. I'm less inclined to extrapolate what my friends may or may not do as some wide-scale predictor. I think a lot more depend on actual interest.
When concurrency on Steam drops by half every month for the first 6 months Im not going to think "oh, gee, look at those numbers, everyone playing must be on Steam" especially with the sales estimates.
Also, Im not going to extrapolate what forum zombies may or may not do as some wide-scale predictor.
It's happening.
Very odd decision knowing that Ubisoft have their own launcher. I also think Ubisoft might move every upcoming release to the Epic Store from now on.
https://www.gameinformer.com/2019/0...ditching-steam-for-the-epic-games-store-on-pc
Update :
Epic will release more games on Epic's Store later this year.
https://www.mcvuk.com/business/ubisoft-to-release-the-division-2-on-epic-games-store
The best strategy would have been to release on both...
My take on this: long term investment, losing money in the short period to bury steam and get market shares.However I doubt a lot of people use epic as much as steam, highly doubt it.
yep estimation is it sold about 2+ million which is about double that of recent steam releases.
they don't like releasing sales anymore since about aw's release. although on the pc we used to have steam spy, launch month was up 100% compared to ww2. playercounts on pc also doubled from 75k to 150k. all that was known was ww2 was at roughly under 900k on steam. unknown if it actually passed that due to steam changing gathering policies. so yes it's somewhere in the 2 million ballpark the only other pc cods around or above that were, black ops, black ops 2, mw2. I would assume future releases on bnet, considering they don't have to give valve a cut anymore.Is this true? If true that is quite impressive. Is there any sales data anywhere?
they don't like releasing sales anymore since about aw's release. although on the pc we used to have steam spy, launch month was up 100% compared to ww2. playercounts on pc also doubled from 75k to 150k. all that was known was ww2 was at roughly under 900k on steam. unknown if it actually passed that due to steam changing gathering policies. so yes it's somewhere in the 2 million ballpark the only other pc cods around or above that were, black ops, black ops 2, mw2. I would assume future releases on bnet, considering they don't have to give valve a cut anymore.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/call-of-duty-black-ops-4/cod-black-ops-4-pc-player-counts
if its double in sales month of ww2 (which after a year total only sold ~12m) I mean black ops 4 is doing better than recent cods, but its no where near black ops 1-2, mw3 total sales figures which were around 30m each.It's so weird reading this, I thought BO4 in general sold less than other previous COD games. Am I living in an alternate reality?