Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
I think it will sell well initially, but drop off rather quickly.
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Anthem Demo Impressions Thread
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if SW Battlefront 2 is still doing well then Anthem should be fine...
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Define doing well. Because I bought that game for like 6 dollars within a year of release.
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DoctorEkkoUK
Member
Is this demo going to be open to all at some point or is it only ever going to be for pre-order customers. If so it is quite amusing to call it a demo because surely a demo is for people to decide if they want to buy it not for people who have already bought it.
*Edit* Just seen it is going open to all
*Edit* Just seen it is going open to all
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they're still releasing major DLC and supporting the game so it sounds like they are still going strong...Anthem should do way better then Battlefront 2
Everyone crapped on The Division for pretty much the exact same stuff but it was the third highest selling game of that year behind Battlefield 1 and CoD Infinite Warfare.
The problem with The Division though is that they had a lot of problems that won't effect Anthem and the updates post-launch mostly caused more problems than they fixed.
For games like this a bad launch can easily be recovered from, it's really in how the post-launch is handled. If they can have good updates that bring new features and not more problems in a timely manner then all of the pre-launch problems will be forgotten.
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I normally prefer single player games much more then these co-op MMO ones...but the rare ones I do like everyone else seems to hate ...I loved that asymmetrical 4v1 shooter, Evolve, but that died out (I have close to 1000 hours playing it)...and now I love Anthem...probably a bad sign...Destiny 2 was fun but I didn't like the focus on gunplay...Anthem's flying mechanics plus focus on abilities is more appealing to me
SkinnerSw33t
Member
I don't think Basic gives you access to Anthem at launch.
You get the 10-hour trial but then lose access until Anthem goes in the vault.
Destiny doesn't even have jetpacks. We use the Force... or eh the Light.
But seriously, even the Titan and Warlock loaded out for hover doesn't feel like hover in this game.
Plus, it's a lot harder to hit stuff while hovering in Destiny. Definitely not the case with Anthem.
I guess Destiny is not so novel now, since all games just copy from each other these days.
Yeah I agree the controls and shooting mechanics are different but that’s because Anthem is a third person over the shoulder shooter. And Bungie are just much better at making shooters. There’s something a bit janky about the way BioWare games control.
I think the gameplay loop is similar. It’s really formulaic and repetitive. It’s a co-op shooter; you start in a hub world with NPCs, you follow icons on a map screen telling you where to go, you fight a boss & his minions that drop loot/weapon/armour upgrades when defeated. Then repeat over and over again.
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MightySquirrel
Banned
Nice. I can't believe some are calling this a 'shitty' looking demo.
Was it downgraded? Yes. But 'shitty' looking... nah
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
Yeah I can’t argue with the downgrade talk but to call this “god awful looking” is an insane statement, imo
HotPocket69
Banned
I think BioWare is next up on EA's chopping block
MightySquirrel
Banned
Let's hope not. I want more Mass Effect 
Even a remaster of trilogy on frostbite would suffice until new trilogy with original cast is made. Simply abandon andromeda with it's awfully awfully lame crew and return to milky way with new story and bring back original crew which everyone missed.
Even a remaster of trilogy on frostbite would suffice until new trilogy with original cast is made. Simply abandon andromeda with it's awfully awfully lame crew and return to milky way with new story and bring back original crew which everyone missed.
HotPocket69
Banned
Let's hope not. I want more Mass Effect
Even a remaster of trilogy on frostbite would suffice until new trilogy with original cast is made. Simply abandon andromeda with it's awfully awfully lame crew and return to milky way with new story and bring back original crew which everyone missed.
I would absolutely love a remastered Mass Effect trilogy. Same goes for the Dead Space trilogy since we're talking about EA.
They would rake in the beaucoup bucks if either of those released.
I don't even need them with a new engine. Just give me 1080/4K and 60FPS with all of the DLC and bam. Done.
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Sygma
Member
What you pinpointed was right since I didn't specify that my observations strictly were about melee gameplay.
That being said, animation cancel =/= animation skip , if anything you're just proving my point. why can't you change of direction / move at all when using any melee skill ? It's like having tab combat / lock on without the visual targeting indicators on the screen.
Lag in this game is just really wonky overall. in any mmo, outside massive pvp battles or something, lag mostly affects hit registration / damage value refresh if we're talking about dot (damage over time, based either on the game internal timer or using your computer's clock). Here it straight up affects enemy positioning and player melee skill triggers entirely. Excuse my french but its a fucking joke, especially when f2p titles are miles better than this
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iconmaster
Banned
Even if Anthem succeeds I would recommend not holding your breath for that. That'd take a quantity of Phoenix Down that EA's unlikely to buy.
Sygma
Member
Maybe someone likeSkinnerSw33t can explain further:
So what are the combos? Does every damage type combo with another? There’s explosive, fire, lightning, and frost, right?
it works like this : you apply an elemental status on a target (wont work if said target has a shield, or if X boss isn't in an "exhausted" state) with a primer attack (ranger melee, flamethrower, acit darts - spit, frost glaives, whatever else)
When said element is applied you can detonate it with a skill for a damage bonus. The trick is that it can only be detonated once, then you gotta re apply a primer and so on. Depending of the element you get various effects. The only subtlety about this is if you play interceptor, since he has skills that detonate primers in order for you to get damage auras. So if you get a fire aura you'll do fire dots damage, etc
Its not too complicated. also if you affect a large group of enemies with a primer and detonate them all at once with a skill, you'll get your ultimate skill much more quickly since you do that much more damage
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JareBear: Remastered
Banned
So any skill can detonate?
Sygma
Member
no, only detonators. when you're in the forge and selecting a skill you want to use, it will be written "aura combo, blast combo" etc dependig of the javelin you're on
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JareBear: Remastered
Banned
Understood. Thanks for explaining it to me.
McCheese
Member
Good news chaps, Bioware have had their best talent on it and they've "reduced the frequency of freezes during loading" ready for next weekends open playtest, I'm sure that'll go swimmingly now it only crashes some of the time and not most of the time. Just take my £80 already please, next they might really spoil us and get it to a steady 30fps on the xbox one x.
On a more serious note, reading between the lines of the "fixes" they are promising for the open beta makes me suspect they are not even updating the demo, and just updating the network infrastructure side of things. Which is funny as their head of network services said everything else was to blame and he was completely prepared for amount of traffic that crashed the game almost the entire weekend.
This whole thing is reminding me of the Mass Effect Andromeda clusterfuck, but without the entertaining gifs and with post-launch DLC plans EA are not telling us about yet, cos they need to figure out the balancing of it all first (i.e. you guys buy it, then we'll tel you how much the cool shit is going to cost you).
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On a more serious note, reading between the lines of the "fixes" they are promising for the open beta makes me suspect they are not even updating the demo, and just updating the network infrastructure side of things. Which is funny as their head of network services said everything else was to blame and he was completely prepared for amount of traffic that crashed the game almost the entire weekend.
This whole thing is reminding me of the Mass Effect Andromeda clusterfuck, but without the entertaining gifs and with post-launch DLC plans EA are not telling us about yet, cos they need to figure out the balancing of it all first (i.e. you guys buy it, then we'll tel you how much the cool shit is going to cost you).
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orangecoke
Member
I do think they plan to patch in some fixes to the demo for next weekend.
http://blog.bioware.com/2019/01/28/...2Qkg3WLjbMWMtGa4P_v48nwUvPJsxWBCDuP_UVqWySTpg
Seems most of the improvements for the open demo is for server issues.
Performance issues will be saved for launch.
sol_bad
Member
I wasn't sure if a new thread should be made or not. I don't want the forum clogged up with Anthem topics.
Some videos about the games potential microtransactions.
Yongyea
Laymen Gaming
Now I haven't played the demo, I'll try this weekend. But if items cost $20, I have lost all interest in the game. Now I know all items can be gotten within the game at no additional cost but I don't want to support this slimy practice.
I mean, fuck me dead. How did Bioware survive making KOTOR, Dragon Age and Mass Effect without these greedy practices? OH they did survive and did turn a profit. Interesting, so what changed in the last 10-15 years that they require charging per God damn item to turn a profit?
Some videos about the games potential microtransactions.
Yongyea
Laymen Gaming
Now I haven't played the demo, I'll try this weekend. But if items cost $20, I have lost all interest in the game. Now I know all items can be gotten within the game at no additional cost but I don't want to support this slimy practice.
I mean, fuck me dead. How did Bioware survive making KOTOR, Dragon Age and Mass Effect without these greedy practices? OH they did survive and did turn a profit. Interesting, so what changed in the last 10-15 years that they require charging per God damn item to turn a profit?
Red Crayon Aristocrat
Member
I feel like if Anthem bombs it's pretty much a guarantee Bioware is done.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
Yikes!
Now this is what I was concerned about.
Graphics, gameplay, content, I figured I’d find ways to enjoy those things regardless. I was wary of the micro transactions and how they would be handled.
Oh boy
Arun1910
Member
Yep, exactly. So I will pay for Premium once it releases and just play it for a month (which is loads of time to see if I like something, and way better than shelling out $60)
SkinnerSw33t
Member
Yeah. I'd like to be the voice of reason and say we have to wait to see how fast you can grind coins...
But nah. No doubt in my mind this is going to be Activision levels of douchery.
Admittedly, I'm more than a little concerned about this on the Division front as well.
But nah. No doubt in my mind this is going to be Activision levels of douchery.
Admittedly, I'm more than a little concerned about this on the Division front as well.
bati
Member
Mass Effect mp was pretty grindy. Bioware is notoriously bad at gauging grind levels required. They also think that hp bloat on enemies in their games is fun, I suspect the two things are related.
lefty1117
Gold Member
Well look, we'll see how all this plays out. The only thing I can say for sure is, once I switched to controller from kb/m, the game became quite enjoyable. On Sunday night before shutdown I did a freeplay session and had a good time exploring and coming across stuff. At that point the game reminded me more of Monster Hunter World than Destiny.
Trogdor1123
Member
Skins costing lots makes sense given all the rest of the content will be included for everyone.
SkinnerSw33t
Member
I will say this. I throw PoE $60 every season I play, and that's for one skin plus 500 mtx coins or whatever.
But PoE is one of the best supported games out there. Maybe over-supported, but that's a discussion for another thread.
I'll give BioWare the benefit of the doubt, but neither Bungie nor Massive support their games to that level imho.
But PoE is one of the best supported games out there. Maybe over-supported, but that's a discussion for another thread.
I'll give BioWare the benefit of the doubt, but neither Bungie nor Massive support their games to that level imho.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
I’m hoping they are true about claiming mouse flying is more responsive in retail. If not I might stick with M/K for the precision (shooting weak points) but controller feels great for flying right now
but what happens if you pay for Origin Premium and end up loving the game?...then you'll purchase the full game for $60 plus the $15 you paid for Premium...so in the end you'll have paid $75
bati
Member
Tag me if you start one lol. Every time I skip a league or two (due to lack of time or burnout) I feel like I practically have to re-learn the game. On one side I love it because the meta shifts relatively often, on the other I hate playing read-the-patchnotes-and-watch-the-guides pre-league every season.
https://wccftech.com/bioware-new-region-anthem-pvp-feedback/
New region, enemies and cosmetics in works.
Talk about weather a little, if its raining electricity attacks will be enhanced and can fly longer due to rain cooling jets.
PvP will depend on player feedback.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19tpMPDurFcJpYChtsmnigT0uSZMQxW_9pu3j-P2qH8k/edit#gid=0
Spreadsheet of Masterwork items datamined from demo.
New region, enemies and cosmetics in works.
Talk about weather a little, if its raining electricity attacks will be enhanced and can fly longer due to rain cooling jets.
PvP will depend on player feedback.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19tpMPDurFcJpYChtsmnigT0uSZMQxW_9pu3j-P2qH8k/edit#gid=0
Spreadsheet of Masterwork items datamined from demo.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
Jigsaah
Gold Member
you mean...the jetpacks from....the Cabal? You might be stretching a bit here. Because I'm sure you didn't think your character has a jet pack. Tell me I'm right. Please.
Jigsaah
Gold Member
Origin premium members get a 10% discount on the game as well as a week early access.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
I just pay the 100 dollar yearly fee. I play plenty of EA games. It pays for itself, for me
10% discount on $60 is $6...Premium is $15...so you're still paying $9 more by using Origin Premium and buying the game...and the more months you use it the more $$ it costs if you decide to buy the full game...but like
JareBear: Remastered
stated it makes more sense if you play a lot of EA games...only thing is you can never cancel Origin Premium or you'll lose all those games
Optimistic Gamer
Member
I'm actually surprised there's not shitstorm over the games technical performance on consoles. Would have assumed more people can't stand the permanent framerate drops and high hardware requirements on pc. Is that because people assume this might be fixed in the release or are people just that used to stuff like this?
I feel like that's mostly due to the very narrow fov.
Jigsaah
Gold Member
10% discount on $60 is $6...Premium is $15...so you're still paying $9 more by using Origin Premium and buying the game...and the more months you use it the more $$ it costs if you decide to buy the full game...but like
You don't lose the games you buy though. I dunno, it depends. I found it worth it to pay 15 buck and get 3 codes and the ability to try the game out prior to purchasing. Seeing how broken the game was 6 weeks ago, I think it was a good investment. By time my next payment is up, Anthem will be fully released (Feb 15th, early access) so I don't feel 15 dollars is too much.
Shmunter
Member
Read elsewhere the PS4 Pro has option to favor framerate by turning off super-sampling and runs between 45-60fps. Xbox X does not have this option.
Typhares
Member
https://www.gameinformer.com/2019/01/29/bioware-will-allow-sprinting-in-anthems-fort-tarsis
Sprinting in fort tarsis at release but not for the upcoming demo.
Sprinting in fort tarsis at release but not for the upcoming demo.
Arun1910
Member
Perhaps, it has it's pros and cons.
For a game like Anthem, I would probably spend a month or 2 max on it anyway, I'm not into constant grinds, so thats still half the price.
I would rather see it as a trial, and I would feel safer paying $15 to test something for an entire month and THEN $60 than paying $60 outright for something I may not like. Because I'm on PC, it would also mean no refunds.