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Crackdown 3 - Review Thread

VAL0R

Banned
Also Terry Crews' Agent Jaxon needs to be a guest character in Killer Instinct 3: Microsoft All-Stars.
 

DanielsM

Banned
Yes it is. MS owns the IP.

I would call that (Crackdown 3) a first party IP developed by a third party developer or co-developed. There are really more than just two buckets, imo. (not sure it really matters though)
 
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xStoyax

Banned
The writing was on the wall. How many more mediocre games are gonna be shoved out just to pump Game Pass numbers before Xbox fans start realizing that quality has taken a turn for the worse. The only team fans can rely on at this point is Playground Studios

 

Xenon

Member
A different point of view:



Not that it will matter much since everybody's mind seem to be made up and from what I've seen before Tim Rogers is not popular here.


Ok, this is the review I wanted. Now I am a little more excited. This guy gets what the game is about and seems to think they delivered.

edit: I cold have done without the weirdness, but it's a good way to dress up a simple review for a simple game.
 
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Dlacy13g

Member
I think Crackdown 3 is likely overall deserving of a 6/10 review score. Thats not to say I personally am not going to enjoy Crackdown 3 but I think there are some legit reasons for the score:
  • The total destruction previously promised is not what it was for the multiplayer and that is a major disappointment and can't be just overlooked. I think frankly, this single element likely plays the biggest role in the low scores. People's expectations were set for something much better for MP. This alone would drag down any score by a full 1 -2 points.
  • After experiencing open world games filled with details that just aren't and frankly never were going to be part of Crackdown 3. But, after experiencing those realized worlds its hard not to ding an open world game for falling short of that.
  • MP feels unfinished given the lack of MP Friends party systems. This is just a huge miss and frankly should hurt the games review score.
  • the Single player experience is a better version of Crackdown 1. Personally I don't see that as bad BUT I can see how a reviewer would knock it for just being a better iteration of the original given it doesn't really do anything to really push the open world genre or story telling to new heights.
Frankly, given the MP is an actual seperate download for the game I think MS would have been far better served to release the single player game first and like other Open world games aka Red Dead 2, held back the online MP component until they addressed the biggest issue of no friends parties and do some further patching / polish. If they took that root, I am pretty sure the review scores would have been a tick better hitting that 7/10 range.

Came across an review that I don't think I have seen in here as well. Seems like a fair take on it from
colteastwood:
 
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DanielsM

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The writing was on the wall. How many more mediocre games are gonna be shoved out just to pump Game Pass numbers before Xbox fans start realizing that quality has taken a turn for the worse. The only team fans can rely on at this point is Playground Studios

The light bulb went on for me in 2007ish time frame, and Microsoft started speaking about the "casual" Wii crowd, the second light bulb went off when they showed the Kinect in 2010 i.e. chasing the casual with motion controller, the third light bulb went on for me in 2013 with the always online, and the fourth light bulb went on for me with all the cloud talk about 3-4 years ago. I simple gave up on them in 2013-2015 time frame. To be honest, I don't understand all the talk about Game Pass, its just another option to rent games, I see nothing wrong with it, but I see nothing great about it either - its like marketing done wrong, generally speaking. I truly thought Xbox was the best place to be back in the day, say 2001 - 2008ish.

Nadella has a plan, that plan is cloud, any other plans are temporary until everything is cloud. (You either dig that, or you don't, imo) I expect Microsoft to continue to lose market share, but that might be topic for another time.

(Sorry if this is slightly off-topic)
 
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Xander3116

Member
I'm going to download this and see if its any good, i liked the first crackdown, i didn't like the second one, i'm hoping this one is good, for a buck why the heck not.
 
The distancing has begone.
What are you talking about? It's not a first party game.

Yes it is. MS owns the IP.
So? That doesn't mean anything. It's only a first party game if Microsoft made it, but they didn't. They're lying when they call it a first party game... Sumo Digital made it, not a first party Microsoft studio. No need to move goal posts, Sea of Thieves is first party and State of Decay 2 is now first party because Undead Labs is now owned by Microsoft.
 
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Mattenth

Member
What's average to you? 5/10 is average.
As the content administrator of OpenCritic, it pains me to tell you that the average review score across all reviews and games is 73.5

Crackdown 3 is ranked in the bottom 25% of games scored. Here's a visual: https://opencritic.com/game/1515/crackdown-3/charts

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Dory16

Banned
Easy allies my go to site also said visually it was bad for an Xbox one game.

Only difference is I don't characterise your "go to site"'''review. I dont call it anyone's ally.

Getting frustrated by the reviews that don't support your bias is not mature.

digital's foundry credibility as a game site is unquestioned.
 

AgentP

Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
So? That doesn't mean anything. It's only a first party game if Microsoft made it, but they didn't. They're lying when they call it a first party game... Sumo Digital made it, not a first party Microsoft studio. No need to move goal posts, Sea of Thieves is first party and State of Decay 2 is now first party because Undead Labs is now owned by Microsoft.

MS produce it, control it, fund it and publish it. It's their IP, the only thing they didn't do is buy the developers, I wonder why?
 

xStoyax

Banned
What are you talking about? It's not a first party game.


So? That doesn't mean anything. It's only a first party game if Microsoft made it, but they didn't. They're lying when they call it a first party game... Sumo Digital made it, not a first party Microsoft studio. No need to move goal posts, Sea of Thieves is first party and State of Decay 2 is now first party because Undead Labs is now owned by Microsoft.



Just stop
 

Grinchy

Banned
That's weird. I remember a handful of members saying that everyone would be eating crow about this game. Is that still happening?

:pie_roffles::pie_roffles:
 

Stuart360

Member
The writing was on the wall. How many more mediocre games are gonna be shoved out just to pump Game Pass numbers before Xbox fans start realizing that quality has taken a turn for the worse. The only team fans can rely on at this point is Playground Studios


I dont get what the guy is trying to say on the tweet on the left, is he trying to say those are bad scores or something?.

As for this game, i have been watching a playthrough and it does look quite fun, but very old school and archaic. I'm not surprised by the average reviews.
 

Vawn

Banned
I'm hearing a lot of, "yeah, but its 'free' with my monthly GamePass subscription".

This is one of the reasons I fear moving to a system where we are just paying several monthly fees, instead of buying games directly. It's less pressure to put out good games. They don't need to be good enough to buy, just good enough to play a bit. They're devaluing their own product and it shows.
 

xStoyax

Banned
I dont get what the guy is trying to say on the tweet on the left, is he trying to say those are bad scores or something?.

As for this game, i have been watching a playthrough and it does look quite fun, but very old school and archaic. I'm not surprised by the average reviews.

The score gets lower with every new release
 

Stuart360

Member
I see the same small group of users that shit up this forum, shitting up this thread. If the mods ever need a forum cull, just bookmark threads like this.
 

Three

Member
That's weird. I remember a handful of members saying that everyone would be eating crow about this game. Is that still happening?

:pie_roffles::pie_roffles:

I was given a choice of BBQ or Tomato

I dont get what the guy is trying to say on the tweet on the left, is he trying to say those are bad scores or something?.

As for this game, i have been watching a playthrough and it does look quite fun, but very old school and archaic. I'm not surprised by the average reviews.

He is saying the quality has gone down with each new release.
 

Stuart360

Member
I was given a choice of BBQ or Tomato



He is saying the quality has gone down with each new release.
Or times have just changed. I mean what chances does the likes of Gears 4 have to match or beat the first games score, 12 years later?.
 

Elenchus

Banned
Crackdown 3 failing this spectacularly could be great for MS. The lessons we learn the most from tend to be the ones that sting. Xbox fans should be rooting for a flop because that (1) increases the likelihood that Phil cuts ties with these talentless developers and (2) that he never greenlights another game like this again.

The new studios need to be going AAA and high fidelity. A game like State of Decay could be incredible in a new engine with a rebooted story. You’ll never see that future if you accept this game. Saw some on twitter calling for a boycott. I’m not usually for that tactic but extreme times call for extreme measures.

I would like to believe that Phil gets it and had to finish this because of Scalebound but the smart play for Xbox fans is to make sure he understands this won’t be accepted. Boycott it.
 
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Gamernyc78

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Only difference is I don't characterise your "go to site"'''review. I dont call it anyone's ally.

Getting frustrated by the reviews that don't support your bias is not mature.

digital's foundry credibility as a game site is unquestioned.

Wth are you talking about? I could care less if you agree with a site I select I'm just adding to the discussion of the other sites mentioned that also shitted on its subpar graphics regardless of someone prefers them. BTW Digital Foundry in the past has also been questioned on occasion..
 

Woo-Fu

Banned
I've checked out the reviews for previous Crackdown game and turns out it's quite a mediocre series so I'm surprised to see people have high expectations for this game

High expectations? People expected 7s and 8s. Don't act like people had unrealistic expectations and that a 5 is par for the course, lol.
 

demigod

Member
Wth are you talking about? I could care less if you agree with a site I select I'm just adding to the discussion of the other sites mentioned that also shitted on its subpar graphics regardless of someone prefers them. BTW Digital Foundry in the past has also been questioned on occasion..

Past? DF still hasn't changed. They are pro Xbox. If you told me DF was going to be negative about Crackdown 3, I would've told you that you were lying.
 

DanielsM

Banned
How often does it happen though?. Plus GOW is supposed to be one of the 'best' games in recent times.

Games to me, unless they are niche or indie (meaning scope) that score less then 70 mc to me are bargain bin games, I generally don't buy sub-70 games, if I do I would think they price would have to be very low. The exception like I said is indie games or niche type games like say something like Until Dawn, Heavy Rain, etc. Those type of games probably will never score super high MC scores.
 

Stuart360

Member
Past? DF still hasn't changed. They are pro Xbox. If you told me DF was going to be negative about Crackdown 3, I would've told you that you were lying.
Because they usually say that OneX has better versions of games than the Pro?, do you expect them to lie or something?. I dont remember people having problem before the mid gen consoles launched and they were saying that PS4 versions were usually better than the XB1. Were they pro Playstation then?
 

Stuart360

Member
I love the fact that everyone seem to be a huge Crackdown fan now, and are very dissapointed by this. Just like how everyone seemed to be a huge Scalebound fan, right after it was cancelled.
Never change Gaf.
 

Hotspurr

Banned
An actual good game turned into a walking simulator with bad combat.

Seems the community is divided here. People who enjoyed GoW for the combat and epic moments didn't really like the new one. People who enjoy cinematic games with shallow gameplay loops ate it up (another example, uncharted 4 is a copy paste of the gameplay from the last 4 games, which by the way tomb raider obliterates, and yet it's a top rated game).
 

Stuart360

Member
Seems the community is divided here. People who enjoyed GoW for the combat and epic moments didn't really like the new one. People who enjoy cinematic games with shallow gameplay loops ate it up (another example, uncharted 4 is a copy paste of the gameplay from the last 4 games, which by the way tomb raider obliterates, and yet it's a top rated game).
A lot of people have turned against Uncharted 4 since its release. There have been threads on here about it.
My problem is that GOW3 is one of my fave games of all time. Its close to perfect as you can get for an action game. The new GOW just did it wrong for me (although i haven't played it, i did watch a playthrough).
 

LOLCats

Banned
Not surprised at the reviews. But a quick click through the DF video, the game play didn't look terrible. I'll prolly do the 2$ gamepass deal so I can run through the campaign.
 

ruvikx

Banned
An actual good game turned into a walking simulator with bad combat.

This is why critics mean sh*t to me in 2019. It's the same with cinema, as well (The Last Jedi's shameful "professional critics" Rotten Tomatoes aggregate is just the tip of a huge dishonest media entertainment industry iceberg). With a video game I need to know only a few details before buying: does it perform at an acceptable level in terms of graphics & framerate? Does it achieve what's advertised? etc. As for the rest, I can make up my own mind whilst watching youtube walkthroughs & gameplay clips.

For what it's worth, Crackdown 3 doesn't look like my type of game. That's okay. I don't need to sh*t on something which doesn't cater to my tastes. God of War 2018 meanwhile was my type of game (I'm a huge fan of the original trilogy) & I hated it because of its imbecilic gameplay mechanisms, absence of interesting plot & overuse of a loot collectathon + annoying environmental mini-puzzles as filler. It's the longest slow-walking spam square (Atreus is overpowered) boredom I've endured in a long time.
 

Calibos

Member
Blame it on Mattrick again. This was Phil's game.

Fuck yes I blame the start of this gen on Mattrick and T. Myerson. And this game is the last of the holdouts from that bullshit launch period. Phil helped it get to the finish line sure, and I am glad that it's finally here and I can play a new crackdown game because they are fun as hell. But I am glad it's out also because Xbox and Phil Spencer and Matt Booty and Nadella can move forward with an actual strategy that doesn't involve TV, TV, and more TV...

Oh, and I really wouldn't expect you to make any real contribution to an actual conversation about Xbox so there is that.
 

MayauMiao

Member
Not surprising at all. The game look like it was 10 years too late. No wonder they hired Terry Crews for damage control.
 

Klayzer

Member
I'll send you a box of tissue for $60, looks like you could use it.



For someone that doesn't care about the media's reviews, you sure post a lot in this thread. Go play your fun games.
Dude usually does this in every Xbox review thread. He's trying to make the thread about the media instead of another disappointing Xbox exclusive. Deflect, rinse, and repeat.
 
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