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PlayStation Boss Teases PS5 Will Have More Multiplayer Exclusives Than PS4
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Gamernyc78
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Warhawk remaster please on ps5 that would be godly or a sequel that stays close to home.
Gamernyc78
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This is so laughable. Their tps mechanics and tps mp are better than their direct rivals and most their competitors for many ppl. Because of UC4 when I jump into other tps mps they Feel so clunky and the running feels off but hey thts my opinion. The game play is just so much more fluid than most. Uc4 mp is still super active after all this time for a reason, ppl do love it and it's mechanics. Also tlou of course.
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93xfan
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Yes. Without this game and BC for the PS1 games I bought last gen, I’ll be holding off on buying a PS5.
Texas Pride
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Bring back SOCOM. While you're at it MAG. A MAG BR could kill it today.
ph33rknot
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shit you're full of it i play guardians all the time there's always people online
HaveButOneLife
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He's being quite transparent, here. He's the Sony equivalent of Phil Spencer.
While some Sony shills like to pretend that it doesn't exist, it's good that Sony realizes that it's a problem.
Sony has the same problem with MP games as MS has with SP games. Sony needs to prove they can make a decent mp game with a sustainable community first. Literally every mp franchise they've had has either been subpar, or withered on the vine and died.
Sony has the same problem with MP games as MS has with SP games. Sony needs to prove they can make a decent mp game with a sustainable community first. Literally every mp franchise they've had has either been subpar, or withered on the vine and died.
UC4 mp is garbo, and "still super active" is the last way I'd describe it. You can still find a match, but going in and out of matches you see a lot of the same people over and over. That's indicative that the player pool is relatively small these days.
The TPS mechanics are also clunky compared to most third party mp games these days. Games like The Division literally shit all over it.
Voost Kain
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1 or two decent interviews doesn't suddenly make you transparent lol.
The Shepard
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I'm hoping there's a new killzone at launch, I actually liked shadow falls multiplayer.
brap
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I wish. Had so much fun with them.
Gamernyc78
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That's how I feel about Gears with its basic gameplay and clunky ass running and other tps games. The division I really didn't even like.
BTW, here you go...
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-05-12-why-you-shouldnt-ignore-uncharted-4s-multiplayer
BTW tons of articles by reputable ppl and sites that stated tht Uc4 mp is top notch. I don't even have to quote them though I know how it feels compared to others
But hey we all have opinions.
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HaveButOneLife
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"here" lol.
bitbydeath
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Split-screen for MAG too.
Negotiator
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Come on, The Division runs like garbage on consoles (30 fps PvP is a joke these days).
I agree about the player pool tho, it's so miniscule that it's extremely easy to coordinate 2 teams of 5 people and find each other in the matchmaking.
It shouldn't be that way, but it's totally understandable by the lack of PR/advertising. If I had $1 for everyone saying "Does Uncharted/TLOU have MP?"... human beings behave like herds of sheep, they go with the flock (Fortnite, Apex etc.)
Those people I'm talking about have never tried the MP in ND games, not even ONCE! So discussing shooting mechanics is kind of a moot point, because they never tried them!
Sony needs more Subway-esque events in the future for their MP games, preferably not just in the US.
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Isa
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I'd love to see either Sony or MS go all -in towards making a proper mmorpg on consoles. Doing things that take advantage of the architecture and are built from the ground up to be best played with a controller. Maybe slightly more casual, action combat. But I digress, its just something my friends and I mull over occasionally. I hope TLoUII still has multiplayer though, the first is absolutely stellar, its so intense with friends, and quite brutal too.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Last of Us has been out since 2014 and it's still active. People who played it knows it's a good Third Person Shooter.
People who call it garbage cannot give a legitimate reason why other than the typical fanboy narrative. You're free to dislike it, but your argument generally doesn't hold water.
ZywyPL
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Quality > quantity. As much as I'd love to see MP games remotely close to KZ2, RFoM or Res3 level, I truly believe Sony studios are simply unable do deliver anything that is at least decent in that department. Where it comes strictly to MP it all comes down to the gameplay, more precisely - the controls, and that's the part where Sony exclusives lack the most - you can mitigate sluggish/floaty/unresponsive controls in SP with story, storytelling, scripts, set pieces, cutscenes etc, but MP is completely stripped from all of that, it's just pure gameplay, so if it fails the whole MP mode fails. There's a reason why MP in Sony's exclusives last mostly not even a month (not so well overall designs don't help either). And not doing a single MP game during entire generation puts them behind everyone else even more than ever. So yeah, I'm sceptical, to say the least. but at least they addressed the issue and they acknowledge they are seriously lacking in MP department and that's the very first step to improvement.
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DForce
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Which multiplayer games do not last longer than a month?
Negotiator
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UC4 MP also failed due to lack of content (more specifically: new maps). They released The Lost Legacy and not even a single map... inexcusable.
Do you know why that happened? It's because they fired their MP map designer due to mismanagement:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/former-naughty-dog-employee-named-in-sexual-harassment-claim.41697/
That sleazeball (he's a self-proclaimed "feminist" according to his Twitter feed) is gone now. If only they could get Justin Richmond back...
Do you know why that happened? It's because they fired their MP map designer due to mismanagement:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/former-naughty-dog-employee-named-in-sexual-harassment-claim.41697/
That sleazeball (he's a self-proclaimed "feminist" according to his Twitter feed) is gone now. If only they could get Justin Richmond back...
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
I'm sure people cal tell you're a known Xbox fan.
You can think it's garbage because that's your personal opinion. You can go in and out of play matches on both TLOU and UC4 online and find different people.. I just tested out before posting this message, which means you're being dishonest.
I think it's easy for me to spot people who are looking to lie rather than make a legitimate response. I find it funny to point it out. lol
thelastword
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I don't think MS has better MP exclusives than Sony, just that Sony concentrated more on SP this gen.....
Besides, there was no need to go there because third party devs dominated that scene this gen and Sony first party really did not see a need to compete there, but with next gen since they have seen how popular it is..... They can fund a ground up game from the H1Z1 devs, they can do MAG 2, they can do Warhawk, they can do Socom, Syphon Filter to take on Rainbow 6, they can do Extermination (horror by with bosses), they can do Twisted Metal, they can do Playstation All Stars Battle Royale or do a BR hack and slasher.
They can do Colony Wars online or Omega Boost online. They can bring us back to the glory days of Killzone 2, the best multi-player experience last gen. They already have the best multi-player racer in GTS, they have the best online fighter in SFV..... So if they go all out on MULTI-PLAYER, I don't think MS has anything to combat them with. I don't think Sony is going after MS in MP though, because frankly MS does not have the MP heavyweights Sony has. I think Sony will be going after the Fortnite, PUBG and Apex pies......The multiplats or third party MP games is what they're targeting, there's no reason not to with the wide-range of MP it's they've got......
Besides, there was no need to go there because third party devs dominated that scene this gen and Sony first party really did not see a need to compete there, but with next gen since they have seen how popular it is..... They can fund a ground up game from the H1Z1 devs, they can do MAG 2, they can do Warhawk, they can do Socom, Syphon Filter to take on Rainbow 6, they can do Extermination (horror by with bosses), they can do Twisted Metal, they can do Playstation All Stars Battle Royale or do a BR hack and slasher.
They can do Colony Wars online or Omega Boost online. They can bring us back to the glory days of Killzone 2, the best multi-player experience last gen. They already have the best multi-player racer in GTS, they have the best online fighter in SFV..... So if they go all out on MULTI-PLAYER, I don't think MS has anything to combat them with. I don't think Sony is going after MS in MP though, because frankly MS does not have the MP heavyweights Sony has. I think Sony will be going after the Fortnite, PUBG and Apex pies......The multiplats or third party MP games is what they're targeting, there's no reason not to with the wide-range of MP it's they've got......
KINDERFELD
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I think that article is my cue to abandon console gaming with Sony next gen.
I cannot stand online multiplayer games.
They're just boring to me an enjoyable experience in the least.
I do welcome local co-op with open arms.
I cannot stand online multiplayer games.
They're just boring to me an enjoyable experience in the least.
I do welcome local co-op with open arms.
Coulomb_Barrier
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If they did make a critically and commercially successful multiplayer game, fanboys would still do the concern trolling 'Sony should let us play this on Xbox, they're anti-consumer'. Would be funny.
VertigoOA
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Umm...
Literally every major multiplayer game. Rainbow six is the most played non br shooter followed by destiny. Both are more popular than recent releases like kingdom hearts and REmake 2 based on weekly Xbox charts.
Multiplayer is where the money is. Sony has he right idea to diversify and compete further.
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DForce
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If literally every major multiplayer doesn't last longer than a month..........then there would be no one playing any multiplayer game at this point.
This would mean games like Fortnite, Call of Duty, Battlefield would all be dead, but they're not. I literally just tested this false narrative that PlayStation MP games do not last long. You can literally go online and find matches quickly with UC4 and TLOU.
So, yeah. There's people being dishonest here.
VertigoOA
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The good multiplayer games don’t die. For years... The haters of online games are completely full of shit and always have been.
But to say that you can still find matches in uc4 and TLOU is a bit disngenous when claiming they’re not dead.
Titanfall 2 had players two months after launch and I still found matches but the player pool was like 1,200 players. That’s sad And means the game is dead. Neither uc4 or TLOU have that kind of mp longevity.
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LMJ
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This is phenomenal news as this is one of the key areas that Sony has definitely been the weakest this generation, but it's even better news because they straight up acknowledge couch multiplayer should still be a thing.
I love to play multiplayer with my friends locally, but often have a much harder time going online and playing with complete strangers, one of the key reasons why I have yet to purchase Uno for the PS4, even though the YouTube videos make it look like it's an absolute blast LOL
I love to play multiplayer with my friends locally, but often have a much harder time going online and playing with complete strangers, one of the key reasons why I have yet to purchase Uno for the PS4, even though the YouTube videos make it look like it's an absolute blast LOL
Negotiator
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Why do I get the impression that Uncharted/TLOU MP haters are trash at these games?
Come on, prove me wrong with your great scores or something... I have over 1500 hours on UC4 MP according to Sony and I'm pretty sure I've seen some of you guys going 0-0-10.
Come on, prove me wrong with your great scores or something... I have over 1500 hours on UC4 MP according to Sony and I'm pretty sure I've seen some of you guys going 0-0-10.
DForce
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For starters, you're only guessing the player pool of both UC4 and TLOU. It may not be as high as CoD or Fortnite, but there's still people playing. TLOU remastered came out in 2014 and if it's quick and easy to find matches, then that means it's not dead.
Now for comparison sake, let's talk about Gears of War 4. Do you know how many players are playing Gears in comparison to Uncharted 4 and The Last of Us? I doubt that you can. GoW4 could have more or even less, but if it's doing numbers better than gears at the moment, then what does that say about the longevity about TLOU and Gears? I'm asking this because the game came out after TLOU and shortly after UC4.
But back to this...
Am I being a bit disingenuous claiming they're not dead? No.
Dead is the term people use to describe how active the online community is. If it's dead, then there's either no one playing or it takes long to find matches.
UC4 and TLOU do not have this problem.
Negotiator
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GoW4 takes a long time to find players these days for some reason.
UC4 MP has a problem finding players only when you're in a team, because some idiot developer thought it would be a good idea to separate solos & parties.
Plunder is dead. Ranked is not worth it. They should have had a unified player pool with only 1 playlist and votable modes.
Javthusiast
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100 Bandicoots drop unto an island...
thelastword
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And you realize no PS fan is asking for State of Decay, Sea of Thieves etc....to come to a PS system.....
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Seems like players are all over Team Deathmatch. I remember playing UC4 when it first launched there were modes that were hard to find players on. I heard about the Gears of War 4 taking time to find players online.
imo the premise of State of Decay is solid, execution not as much, I only played the first one though.... if it were done well, it could be real good. SoT, ehhh, pass all day long.
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Gamernyc78
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I am a ps4, Xbox and switch gamer and think Uc4 mp is awesome and better than almost all those other tps games out there, so what's your point? I mean you have dozens of articles talking like this about the mp....
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ex...rted-4-multiplayer-review-PS4-Naughty-Dog/amp
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-05-12-why-you-shouldnt-ignore-uncharted-4s-multiplayer
But let me guess big pimpin bcus u say it its gospel lol lol /s
Gamernyc78
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Never experienced problems finding players in uc4 upon its launch at least the 6 month period when I was putting hundreds of hours into it. Maybe now but it has a faithful community.
As for Gears of War 4 most ppl play a few modes and thts it. I stopped playing tht after a week as it felt very basic, everyone just used shotgun and running felt off.
Psykodad
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You act like Sony is planning to abandon SP games to pursue the MP crowd.
They're going to expand, not replace.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Just a few modes on UC4. I think they were just the least popular ones. I play UC4 from time to time but finding players on Team Deathmatch is quick and easy, same for the Last of Us with Supply Raid.
The point is, if it was as bad as people are making it out to be, then these games would've been completely dead along time ago. That's what generally happens with MP games that people don't find interesting.
Gamernyc78
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I agree. What I find amusing is I joined a few UC4 communities when it launched a few years ago and even up until recently I would get notifications from ppl looking to play or just discussing their wins in mp. Alot of ppl just come on here to talk just to talk.
thelastword
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Sony is not abandoning SP content, why would they.... All their SP games made bank this gen and of course there will be new successful Ip's just as they had this gen. I think Naughty Dog is working on a new IP and so are many other first party studios.....
Sony has also expanded many of their current studios to two or three teams and they have plans underway to acquire some other studios/ip's as well....
Lou and UC2 MP were some of the best last gen, didn't play UC3 MP so can't say much there.... I'd consider Killzone 2 MP and Warhawk as the platinum standard and Lou and Uncharted 2 as the gold standard..... I also enjoyed RFOM's multiplayer and RFOM 2's coop...... Didn't have enough time to play RFOM 3's MP......Why do I get the impression that Uncharted/TLOU MP haters are trash at these games?
Come on, prove me wrong with your great scores or something... I have over 1500 hours on UC4 MP according to Sony and I'm pretty sure I've seen some of you guys going 0-0-10.
Gamernyc78
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Killzone 2 mp omg was so addictive. I would put tons of hours in just to get the banner beside my name lol you know the top banners? Mp was phenomenol, to bad the dlc maps weren't populated for long and everybody was just on Radec. From what I remember, Killzone 2 was one of the first, if not the first to have those dynamic environments in mp.
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EverydayBeast
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I would say MP wasn’t as high on SONY’s priority list THIS gen.
The ideal game will obviously have both (Uncharted 2, Killzone 2 etc.)
I’m sorry tho, but those games, in terms of sales didn’t compete against this gens mostly single player games.
The ideal game will obviously have both (Uncharted 2, Killzone 2 etc.)
I’m sorry tho, but those games, in terms of sales didn’t compete against this gens mostly single player games.