crowbrow
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Devil May Cry 5 for PS4 is slightly more censored than on Xbox One and PC, but only in the West
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Jigsaah
Gold Member
I see. I'd like to get into the Japanese gaming scene. Are these imports you are purchasing or readily available in other regions? Your praise of some of these titles intrigue me. Sucks your experience is being throttled.
ambientmystic
Member
You can circumvent it on the PC by turning off Lens Flares lol
Proof below [Warning NSFW]
PCMR for the win lololol
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crowbrow
Banned
I am pro-Sony and I think all censorship is BS. But seeing Sony going even further on censorship than others has me worried. It is exactly because I'm a fan of Sony that I will be extra harsh criticizing them, I don't want the brand to be ruined.And which people do you think would do that?...
Zaffo
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Nickolaidas
Member
I feel a bit sorry for the devs. They show tits/butt cracks, some people complain. They cover the tits/butt cracks, some other people complain. There's no winning here.
Other than not having the female character naked in the first place. And the audience is none the wiser.
Other than not having the female character naked in the first place. And the audience is none the wiser.
GlassAwful
Member
I would be entirely unsurprised if quite a few deserters came back here soon after getting banned from Resetera for daring to speak against censorship in that other forum.
Funnily, that thread was in average surprisingly civil, with only a few pro-censorship dudes throwing around the usual "what's wrong with you?!" with all the fake disdain they're capable of.
Wow, its like a self fulfilling prophecy over there.
The irony of CensorshipERA censoring discussion about the slippery slope of censorship is palpable.
I can understand that people think like this, I mean we live in a world of cultists and groupthink but when shit like this happens how does the larger population of people with their heads not completely up their own ass not see the hypocrisy of it all and wake up from it?
Why, how, is this ideology of thought policing and censorship continuing to spread?
If they allow that thread to reopen you can bet it will come with some additional guidelines that dictate the correct stance to have on the matter and that anyone against it will be banned.
JunkerWoland
Member
Capcom should address the issue. If they remain silent, I'm going to assume the ray of light wasn't an artist choice made by the company.
As for the uncensored Trish scene in the PC & X-box versions, it wouldn't surprise me, if it was merely a lack of oversight on Capcom's part.
As for the uncensored Trish scene in the PC & X-box versions, it wouldn't surprise me, if it was merely a lack of oversight on Capcom's part.
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Ryu_Joestar
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The current status of SIE
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Mr Hyde
Gold Member
Yes, I guess I shouldn´t be surprised. But seeing people in here acting like the censoring on this game is exclusive to PS4, acting all high and mighty while it´s also censored on other platforms, is just ludicrous. And I get it now, It was not about the issues of censorship, it never was, it was about painting Sony as the devil because reasons, all for that sweet chance to push the "Sony is arrogant"-narrative that so many in here embrace. I swear, the hypocrisy in this place is fucking legendary.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Sony has typically censored games with underage looking anime charactcers.
But this is DMC, adults, a bum shot and a game that is rated MA anyway. And still censored?
Any Sony gamers in the US know if they have been patching and pooching US versions of GTA, or their own games like God of War which might show boob shots?
Or are they going to give big sellers like R* games and their own first party studios the green light to do whatever they want?
But this is DMC, adults, a bum shot and a game that is rated MA anyway. And still censored?
Any Sony gamers in the US know if they have been patching and pooching US versions of GTA, or their own games like God of War which might show boob shots?
Or are they going to give big sellers like R* games and their own first party studios the green light to do whatever they want?
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Jigsaah
Gold Member
That's an easy one. The world has raised a generation of thin skinned, participant trophy wielding, live at home til you're 30 pansies!
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
As long as PS systems sell like crazy, there is no need for undoing the censorship.
All comes down the mighty dollar. If their sales and profits aren't affected, no reason to change the censorship strategy.
Zaffo
Member
Man, this TMS#FE level of unnecessary censorship.
No too long ago we wouldn’t have to worry about censorship.
I guess if SMTV would have come out on PS4 today, most demons either would get censored or entirely cut off.
Not the dick monsters, those ones are very brave and forward thinking, but you can kiss goodby to anything resembling a boobie.
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Bagofdicks
Neo Member
Lots of posts here saying this is coming from evangelicals, puritans, etc.... I got news for you this censorship push is coming from atheist sjw liberals. Christian's and the like haven't been a threat to the medium in a long time. These SJW's are ten times worse for gaming than the extreme religious ever were because devs/pubs/platform holders are actually giving in to them.
PrCat88
Member
This particular scene with Trish has been known for months prior to release. It was first revealed on a stage demo for Dante around the time of announcing Ada Wong's reveal in the remake to Resident Evil 2. If it was a goof, Capcom did a poor job fixing it upon release and it's strange how Western playstation users are the only ones with the patch if that's the case.
Endless Fluff
Banned
It was obvious from the start that this was going to happen... it's not just anime games and questionable characters they censor and it's going to get worse. Looking forward to Catherine. lol
Airbus Jr
Banned
indeed
now i wonder what makes other game like witcher 3 mafia, mortal kombat, dragon age, mass effect, god of war etc can get a free pass from this ?
theres far more full front nudity/ brutality/gore there
in GTA V you can get a lap dance service in the pub
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Shin
Banned
Gamers won't do anything about it and the media that's supposed to (GameInformer, Eurogamer, IGN and all those big sites) won't either.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
"Don't you DARE bring opposing arguments against those who describe every display of female skin as despicable sexism, maggots!"
I swear, I never once in my life saw anything like this, and I've seen at least 25 years worth of badly modded forums.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
Nope. Actually, it's naughtier than I initially expected, especially in some costumes and really abundant jiggle physics.
Airbus Jr
Banned
well..weird isnt it...
i remember theres other game calld Agony
i know the console version ia sightly censored but monsters head is literally a vagina and everyone seems to be ok with it on xbox and ps
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
That's odd. You'd think DoA6 would have blanket light beams at all times considering the jiggly nature of the game.
I have a feeling the censorship is actually a new revenue generating tactic by Sony. If you pay up some extra cash, you can do what you want. But if you don't you have to put those blindly light rays to cover things up. And in this case, Capcom said forget it. We'll put blinders on than pay you $$$ for a censorship free launch.
That would explain why first party games like God of War can show titties in basically of their games at some point (including the PS2 humping mini-game) and not care.
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Codes 208
Member
Isn’t this game M rated? Why does it need further censorship?
And seriously? The Xbox is an American system and it doesn’t have the same censorship? That’s...kinda hilarious actually.
I can understand some of the censorship regarding Lolis in hentai-based games, but this is unnecessary.
And seriously? The Xbox is an American system and it doesn’t have the same censorship? That’s...kinda hilarious actually.
I can understand some of the censorship regarding Lolis in hentai-based games, but this is unnecessary.
The Mad Draklor
Member
It's just a freakin' butt. Has SIE never seen a butt before?
"Don't you DARE bring opposing arguments against those who describe every display of female skin as despicable sexism, maggots!"
I swear, I never once in my life saw anything like this, and I've seen at least 25 years worth of badly modded forums.
What I don't understand is why this only applies to videogames.
We live in a culture where Game of Thrones is a pretty mainstream TV show but if a videogame does similar (the sex, not the violence) then there's all this "outrage".
We have rating systems so whats the issue?
LOL, regarding violence, "one does not excuse the other". But you do excuse one.
Ban Puncher
Member
Video games such as 'South Park: The Stick of Truth', 'Saints Row IV' and even Sony's own 'The Last of Us' were confirmed to have had cuts made for versions available in my local market before they were released. Censorship is against my core values so I exercised my consumer rights and opted to import those games from a different region or buy them on another format. What I find disappointing is that unlike the previous titles I mentioned, Sony did not announce before launch that 'Devil May Cry V' on the PS4 made available outside of the Japanese market would be altered. Instead they quietly patched the game with a mandatory update after the game had been released. Having made such statement may have let those who are in the somewhat privileged position of owning multiple formats to adjust their purchasing decision if they so felt inclined to given a choice.
As some people have pointed out, you can play the PS4 version unpatched from the disc but this locks you out of any future bug fixes, may affect the compatibility and use of DLC (some of which is already available) and this option is sadly not available to people who bought the game digitally via the PSN as that will always be the latest version of a game.
It's a bit of an inconvenience having to go back to the store this weekend but it's no real hassle for me to take my PS4 copy back and exchange it for an Xbox One or PC version. Personally, I just don't feel comfortable spending the same amount of my money on a censored version of a game when there is an uncut option readily available elsewhere.
As some people have pointed out, you can play the PS4 version unpatched from the disc but this locks you out of any future bug fixes, may affect the compatibility and use of DLC (some of which is already available) and this option is sadly not available to people who bought the game digitally via the PSN as that will always be the latest version of a game.
It's a bit of an inconvenience having to go back to the store this weekend but it's no real hassle for me to take my PS4 copy back and exchange it for an Xbox One or PC version. Personally, I just don't feel comfortable spending the same amount of my money on a censored version of a game when there is an uncut option readily available elsewhere.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
Hilarious...
I remember when we were fighting censorship in games back in the late 90s and went head over heels to import uncut version of games. And now this is coming back. Amazing.
I remember when we were fighting censorship in games back in the late 90s and went head over heels to import uncut version of games. And now this is coming back. Amazing.
Game is already rated M for Mature.... so yeah.... Unnecessary censorship to the max. Then there are movies like Titanic where it's rated PG-13 with the main character posing nude (and under the age of 18 per the character she plays) winning 11 Academy Awards...
Enygger_Tzu
Banned
So, Sony, about this game of yours The Last of Us by name, you know the scene where two 14 year old girls kiss each other in the mouth, it's still there or it has gone?
And if it's still there, what part of your audience are you catering to with this scene that do not wish to cater to with your new censorship rules?
And if it's still there, what part of your audience are you catering to with this scene that do not wish to cater to with your new censorship rules?
GlassAwful
Member
"Don't you DARE bring opposing arguments against those who describe every display of female skin as despicable sexism, maggots!"
I swear, I never once in my life saw anything like this, and I've seen at least 25 years worth of badly modded forums.
Like clockwork. Did I call it or what?
That paragraph is hilarious. Like listening to an evangelical christian quote the bible when telling people that god hates them.
The very idea that female objectification and sexualization is a concern is THE DRIVING IDEOLOGY OF PURITANISM you fucking wankers!
Just because its being proposed by what is now called leftist feminists does not make it any less so.
Anita Sarkeesian is a fucking puritan.
SJW stance is that of puritanism and censorship (for females).
25 years ago women who called themselves feminists were ripping their clothes off in public to challenge evangelical puritans from shaming the female body against sexualization. Now they've come full circle and instead of the game industry turning its nose as such ideals as propagated back then by evangelicals it is now caving to them because they are propagated by twitter mobs reinforced by leftist media.
The SJW mob is responsible for starting this Orwellian slippery slope and Sony's new policy has just enabled it further.
This will get worse and it will impact all platforms. The game's more gratuitous nudity being censored in all versions was probably Capcom's overreaction to their correct perception of what's becoming the new Western value set again.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
See, this is the peculiar thing. If it was a matter of censorship, it wouldn't have passed Sony's internal certification process and made it onto the mastered disc in the first place. Content checks are not made retroactively generally speaking for the obvious reason that patching isn't an absolute requirement.
There is one exception however. If nudity wasn't stated as part of the content declaration to the ESRB, then they would have to patch it out in order to avoid getting fined. I've written at length in the past about how insanely pedantic this is (i.e. a drawing of a beer bottle that is part of some entirely non-interactive background detail is enough to draw a fine if you didn't tick the alcohol check-box on the declaration form), and how multiple infractions within a certain time compound penalties.
The crucial thing about the ESRB though is that it levies fines at the PUBLISHER, not the platform holder. In which case this would behoove Capcom to push this fix out as quickly as possible.
If you look at the ESRB content description here, it appears that this is the most likely reason for what's happened. Because the uncensored content absolutely would draw a fine because it deviates from the supplied description.
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vpance
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Yeah it is interesting. My guess is that it's because gaming is so connected and influenced by online culture, much more so than almost any other industry. So these loud minority voices (or the preemptive fear of these voices) become successful in forcing changes, and doubly so if those voices are directly working on or publishing these games.
At the end of the day, the TV/movie is still honest enough with itself to know that sex and violence sells, and that's still the dominant factor in who gets the final say on content.
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CyberPanda
Banned
I never understood why humans are so particular upset about nudity? This is totally lame of Sony to censor, but every game should show the amazing form of the human body without censorship.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
Well, I'm not a women but apparently it's offending to them. I've never been offended by male nudity though so... I dunno.
Sqorin Hammerfarf
Banned
Danganronpa 1, 2, V3, Utawarerumono: Mask of Truth and Mask of Deception are available in the US, localized in English. I also recommend Steins;Gate and Chaos;Child (available in English too) and also really good. I think the Utawarerumono games might be my game of the generation (they are two halves of a single story, and I played them back to back as one 75 hour game).
That's seven masterpiece quality visual novels that would not pass Sony's censorship here. Each one has a handful of scenes that include panty shots, butt cracks, or hot springs moments - all things that Sony is currently, ACTIVELY censoring in games right now. The irony is that Chaos;Child has one of the sickest and most violent moments I think I've ever seen in a video game (anyone who has played the game knows exactly what scene I'm talking about), but they'd leave it intact and censor the playful shower scene in the name of decency.
Zanki Zero is coming out in April here. Don't know what the quality of it is, but it looks good to me, except that they went and draw pajama bottoms over some panty shots, as well as removing full scenes that involve the characters as children. It's bullshit.
Klayzer
Member
Lol. A virtual who's who of anti-Sony warriors chiming in.And which people do you think would do that?...
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Depends on the country/culture.
The US is a country where blood, guts, shoot outs, smoking and drug use in mainstream media is a-okay. But show an ass crack, and some reason people scream with pitchforks. It's so unbalanced it doesn't even make sense. Go to a museum and anyone can see a painting or statue with a naked woman. Watch Discovery Channel and some of those medical shows I've seen show tits no problem.
Show it in a video game and people go nuts.
I can understand the point of "gaming is a kid focused thing, so we are banning it from there", but some games are M-17 or M-18 so it's for adults. Kids should not be touching the game. Just like M-17 movies are allowed to show this, since kids aren't supposed to watch them.
I guess it comes down to no matter what game it is, no matter what ESRB rating it gets, and no matter which targeted audience a game is focused on, some companies like Sony will try to do a blanket approach to cover all bases....... which doesn't even make sense anyway since Sony has their share of God of War games showing tits, asses, and PS2 humping mini-games. Let's see if God of War going forward has no more T&A scenes.
If they do, it shows Sony is two faced and will pick on third parties, but not their own games.
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GlassAwful
Member
It clearly states the game features partial nudity and minimally covered breast and buttocks "by blood, light, or clothing" so how was it not in line with the description without the lens flares?
Even if this is Capcom haphazardly reacting to a ESRB description. In my mind, the bigger news is the reaction by the leftist mob to the idea of censorship in this case and not only being completely supportive of it but wanting more.
This is what people should be concerned about regardless of the reasons Capcom ultimately did this, because these companies are listening to these nutjobs!
Danjin44
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Mochilador
Member
Crazy buttocks on a train.
Punished Miku
Member
They're vulnerable to bad press. If this started a trending hashtag they wouldn't be happy. Especially if it's around E3, or during PS5 conversations.
If enough people got pissed, they would notice.
Enygger_Tzu
Banned
Wasn't he banned from here when MS kept feeding him false info?