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Do you ever think Microsoft will release anything similar to the Sony VR? Or has there been any talks about it
once the industry matures enough MS will throw their hat into the ring. i'll bet a bajillion guns that they have been working on VR prototypes for years.
Do you ever think Microsoft will release anything similar to the Sony VR? Or has there been any talks about it
STADIA?!? Are you kidding?Microsoft will not have VR. Many threads on it.
But Sony, Switch, and in the future, Stadia, will have VR.
Also Oculus Go brand new BR experience as well.
Microsoft is going for xcloud right now to try and fight off digital streaming as that's the big hot thing right now not VR.
Microsoft will not have VR. Many threads on it.
But Sony, Switch, and in the future, Stadia, will have VR.
Also Oculus Go brand new BR experience as well.
Microsoft is going for xcloud right now to try and fight off digital streaming as that's the big hot thing right now not VR.
Nahh, unlike Sony they were able to pull the plug soon enough.
Negative feedback isn't exactly new. Sony are smart enough to know their opinions don't matter as these people complain about everything and are just background noise. If Sony wants to listen to feedback, they use the data from their customers who bought the stuff.Nahh, unlike Sony they were able to pull the plug soon enough. And sony will soon get tired of selling their set at 50% discount and on top of that, getting so much negative feedback for talking about psvr games.
Did you watch the Phil Spencer interview? Do you think he's just lying?
Nahh, unlike Sony they were able to pull the plug soon enough. And sony will soon get tired of selling their set at 50% discount and on top of that, getting so much negative feedback for talking about psvr games.
I don't think Sony is unhappy though. They're investing more and more in VR games, just like Vive, and especially Oculus is coming with new headsets and AAA games, even after the "failure" people like to talk about it. Why are they reinvesting? They could easily just drop out, but no, they're coming with new hardware. High software attach rate is what keeps these companies coming back to VR.
I think Mircosoft would have trouble with VR exclusives. How would they develop those when their Xbox exclusives aren't up to par this gen. When you consider the games you can play on PC that are on Xbox, PSVR has an exclusive lineup that I don't want to make an opinion on versus Xbox one. But its really surprising considering its only been out a little over 2 years.
What inversions have sony recently made, like in 2018 or 2019?. As for the new Oculus, there is obviously a clear change of strategy motivated by poor sales. And as for sotware attach rate, the median price of psvr games is very low and the amount of psvr users is very small as a platform, don´t know how much longer this can be sustained. As for microsoft, it´s evident they pulled the plug, is it because they got overwhelmed by the psvr game catalog?, I doubt it.
How much are those tinted troll glasses? Some of the funny troll responses never get Tiring lol
Negative feedback isn't exactly new. Sony are smart enough to know their opinions don't matter as these people complain about everything and are just background noise. If Sony wants to listen to feedback, they use the data from their customers who bought the stuff.
If Microsoft has pulled the plug, why can I still get Windows MR headsets, and why is another one coming out next month?
What change of strategy? Standalone was the main goal 5 years ago. They always intended to do standalones + PC headsets.What inversions have sony recently made, like in 2018 or 2019?. As for the new Oculus, there is obviously a clear change of strategy motivated by poor sales. And as for sotware attach rate, the median price of psvr games is very low and the amount of psvr users is very small as a platform, don´t know how much longer this can be sustained. As for microsoft, it´s evident they pulled the plug, is it because they got overwhelmed by the psvr game catalog?, I doubt it.
You have a specific paradigm and narrative your pushing. You don't know what Sony is happy or not happy with. Ppl like you were the same ones that thought Sony by now would have dropped VR and they haven't. Quite the opposite they had a whole mini show basically dedicated to it the other day. PSVR cannot be doing that bad.
What inversions have sony recently made, like in 2018 or 2019?. As for the new Oculus, there is obviously a clear change of strategy motivated by poor sales. And as for sotware attach rate, the median price of psvr games is very low and the amount of psvr users is very small as a platform, don´t know how much longer this can be sustained. As for microsoft, it´s evident they pulled the plug, is it because they got overwhelmed by the psvr game catalog?, I doubt it.
People like me would know sony is good at keeping their stuff on life support.
What change of strategy? Standalone was the main goal 5 years ago. They always intended to do standalones + PC headsets.
That was always the plan from the start? They just couldn't get it cheap enough right out of the gate due to manufacturing costs.They are going for cheap now, at least that is my impression.
Good at life support? We all knew Vita was getting killed off in the U.S. way before it did in Asia. They killed it fast enough, that received no life support. That situation isn't comparable to the PSVR situation now. Sony has a record of still supporting hardware with healthy sales Ala ps3 continued support well into the PS4 life cycle.
That was always the plan from the start? They just couldn't get it cheap enough right out of the gate due to manufacturing costs.
That's how all consumer-oriented products work. Everything is a matter of tradeoffs.Tradeoffs to improve the pricing.
Ps.- You guys started dodging very fast, I´m out of here.
with psvr, it obviously takes committment and effort to keep selling the thing at 50% of the projected price, sorry but it´s not a good scenario.
Nope, Microsoft is punting on VR because it's going to take decades.
Yup.Decades plural? Alright. But what will take decades specifically? You are suggesting VR isn't profitable now and won't be for at least 20 years or some other point?
Yup.
This is going to hold up extremely bad. Facebook already mentioned Oculus Go in their earnings reports. Once we have a 2nd generation of headsets going, especially in the standalone versions, ROI should come in very fast. This is still 3-5 years away though.Yup.
Nobody is making money on VR yet and there is no prospects for it.
There is still some money being made, so you can't say there is no profit at all.Nobody is making money on VR yet and there is no prospects for it.
That's how all consumer-oriented products work. Everything is a matter of tradeoffs.
Be specific with the word projected here. What exactly do you mean and how did you come to the determination of what Sony's "projected" price is in 2019?
My take? You have no idea, you're just comparing the price now to the launch price to add weight to your point. Prove me wrong.
They kept it going as long as they could where they could, despite everybody knowing it was condemned, similar thing with xperia, lost 1 billion in 1 year, still going... with psvr, it obviously takes committment and effort to keep selling the thing at 50% of the projected price, sorry but it´s not a good scenario.
Every company does "as long as they could" sorry your analyst card is revoked your not saying much. I responded to your "life support" claim with facts. I see your one of those ppl tht never can be wrong. Enjoy tht bubble.
I think there was no projected price for 2019 and the determining factors for price reductions are competence and sales stimulation. Companies are about maximizing profits, there was no competence from ms and nintendo, so the cut had to come from slow sales. Sony told their shareholders that VR growth was lower than expected, so it fits well.
You lost focus pretty quick, it doesn´t even matter if the psvr is in life support or not, is not relevant to the point I was making, which was about why "people like me" who think that sony is way too prideful, wouldn´t dare to predict that sony would drop the psvr anytime soon.
But if you are interested in predictions, I think that sony is gonna pretend that psvr is still a thing until they finally admit that they have no more plans somewhere between 1 or 2 years after the ps5 launches.
But you said specifically 50% of projection, how exactly did you determine that, specifically?