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Next Xbox is ‘More Advanced’ Than the PS5 according to Insiders.

SonGoku

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If the latest Navi rumor
Which rumor, link?
I give more value to Cerny words, he said the CPU and GPU were gonna be a true next gen leap and deliver previously unattainable graphical fidelity and visual effects, it will even support a form of RT, you need serious power for that.

Consoles will be 12TF minimum, im leaning more towards 14TF.
 
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So are these two insiders right or is this another case of Resetera having "insiders" hype something up but actually don't have any info?

It is also thinly implied that Sony put out the interview with Wired for Damage Control. which is quite the claim. It would also mean Sony somehow knows how powerful the next Xbox is which seems unlikely do to Ms usually running a tight ship. Or the fact it's not likely finished yet.

What do you think?
 

Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
It would also mean Sony somehow knows how powerful the next Xbox is which seems unlikely do to Ms usually running a tight ship. Or the fact it's not likely finished yet.
They probably do know. Even though a lot of NDAs are involved, too many people by now will know specs of both systems in independent companies, so the higher ups at Sony will know what the Xbox 4 will be like and vice versa.
 
I think Resetera is a pile of shite and should be avoided at all costs.
While it is am ideological mind hive, I'm fairly sure that there are more industry insiders over there (many of them used to come here, and would be pretty welcome).

Back to the topic, this is in line with previous leaks, so for now, I think that the top xbox model will be more powerful than the PS5 (assuming there is only one model) and the base model will be about the equivalent of the PS4 PRO in therms of computing power.

Now, I don't know what MS considers "clearly more powerful", and more importantly, will they deliver more than vaporware in therms of good games? Also, as we see with the PRO/X situation, how will these on paper benefits play out? How will Sony handle their get woke go broke strategy? How strongly will Ms push for in game "micro" transactions, even in their SP exclusives? and how will always online come into play? Will the next xbox still have a bloated OS full of features nobody cares about (I mean, my TV handles the media stuff now, I could not care less about which console has the best netflix\prime client\youtube client).
 
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Dontero

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It is also thinly implied that Sony put out the interview with Wired for Damage Control. which is quite the claim. It would also mean Sony somehow knows how powerful the next Xbox is which seems unlikely do to Ms usually running a tight ship. Or the fact it's not likely finished yet.

What do you think?

It is not "implied". Announcing your new console in rag like wired which barely anyone read is like definition of "we aren't ready but we have to say something" aka damage control. PS4 was announced with full conference with 100s of journalists and so on for comparison.

Now hardware wise Sony should know what MS have and MS knows what Sony have. It is easy to spread such information when developers work on game with both devkits in house.

Now who is more powerful. Imho both will be similar. Damage control from Sony side is that they plan to properly unveil their console later while MS targets E3 2019 so it will be MS that will have "the most powerful console ever" while Sony after few months will claim "we too" which won't sound as good and will not be exciting to people who saw MS console which has more or less same specs.
 

Jigsaah

Gold Member
L-O-Effing-L.

I'm sorry, am I supposed to know this "Nibel"? Isn't he just a mod from resetera? Are mods insiders? Besides Klobrille is apparently the insider because he's divulging the information. So really...who is Klobrille?
 
I think it would be better if we stopped making threads everytime a no named nobody makes a post claiming to “know things.”

If they have a track record and can post specs then it might be worth discussing. Until then this crap is getting tiresome.
Especially when they don’t actually tell you anything at all.
 
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mejin

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Us, UK, West Africa, Mexico. CANADA, Brazil, Russia.

I don't get how the Xbox is "damaged" in countries it never did well in with the 360. The 360 numbers in Europe and Asia were only slightly better because of the year head start than hit a wall after the second year which is why Ps3 was able to easily pass the 360 in Europe and Asia, since Ms didn't follow up. Instead focusing on Japan for 3 years when the market there was already contracting.

Also some countries got a one year Kinect boost, one of the two years the 360 outsold the Ps3 worldwide.

Maybe I was not clear enough. You can disagree as much as you want, but I'm just talking about what happened, not talking about the future or what could potentially happen.

IMHO, all markets suffered from the stupid decisions of MS. What was bad in X360 age is now insignificant. What was great like US and UK got a significant blow in the user base and mind share.

In my country, Brazil, X360 was the clear winner. This gen, PS4 got the upper hand easily like any other country. In general, the Xbox brand was really damaged this gen and now they depend on Sony to make a huge mess next gen to stand a chance to grow up worldwide once again. Right now sales are slow everywhere cause gen is finished for them, they need the next one. We had infos XBO install base were around ~41M at the end of 2018. Less than half of X360 LTD numbers. They will go to their 6th year in the market, will still not beat 50M and will be surpassed by Switch soon.

It is a rough gen for MS there is no spin,.
 

demigod

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They obviously know what Anaconda specs are targeting. If they know its more powerful than PS5, then they should know the PS5 specs and they’d release that info by now. I highly doubt he knows both specs.
 

rob305

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Klobrille is actually reliable for MS stuff. He used to regularly leak upcoming games with gold titles, new dashboard features and stuff. Hes obviously very cautious with his words cause things can change and he doesnt want to be called a liar, but his claims that MS are aiming to be the more powerful system sounds reasonable. Apparently his proof is a documentation from MS which he showed to a mod
 
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I have no problem seeing the next xbox being more powerful. But as I've said before, there's absolutely NO WAY there will be a huge gap between those consoles, unless Phil is ok about selling a $799 piece of hardware.

I'm expecting less than 20% difference in performance between them. That's even less than the difference between PS4 and XBone.
 
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PocoJoe

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Next box can be more powerful, doesnt matter as ps5 is still the gaming console for most.

I dont know anybody whom buys consoles primary because of power. It is games, price, control, Power
 

rob305

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Next box can be more powerful, doesnt matter as ps5 is still the gaming console for most.

I dont know anybody whom buys consoles primary because of power. It is games, price, control, Power
Lots of early adopters will buy the more powerful console for third party games even if its at a premium. Reviewers will review on the more powerful system. If you get a good deal on the price hardware wise like with the X, I can see people jumping to that console even if its more expensive
 

Hendrick's

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I would be shocked if the Nexbox wasn't more powerful. They know they have to be.
 

trikster40

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I read a bit of that thread, and they are solely basing their “insider info” on the fact that the X is more powerful than the Pro, therefore Anaconda must be more powerful that PS5.

If two hardware come out at the same time, they’re going to be mostly equal, with one maybe having a slight advantage.

And let’s face it: hardware don’t mean anything if you don’t have the games to back it up. Sony studios are the most talented devs in the industry IMO.
 
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Klobrille is actually reliable for MS stuff. He used to regularly leak upcoming games with gold titles, new dashboard features and stuff. Hes obviously very cautious with his words cause things can change and he doesnt want to be called a liar, but his claims that MS are aiming to be the more powerful system sounds reasonable. Apparently his proof is a documentation from MS which he showed to a mod

They may very well have insider information. But they aren’t telling you any information other than they know stuff.

Imagine turning on The Weather Channel and they keep telling you they know the 7 day forecast... but they can’t tell you. That would be pretty pointless.
 
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juliotendo

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Ok.

The problem with this “inside information” is that PlayStation never dropped actual spec numbers or performance characteristics in the WIRED interview. Just general overview of what we can expect from the hardware side. How can we make assumptions if we don’t have information to compare one against the other?

Both platforms will be powerful. I don’t think the spec numbers will matter much.
 

rob305

Member
They may very well have insider information. But they aren’t telling you any information other than they know stuff.

Imagine turning on The Weather Channel and they keep telling you they know the 7 day forecast... but they can’t tell you. That would be pretty pointless.
Like I said, Klobrille has leaked more specific stuff in the past. While this for many is a “water is wet” leak since people expected the new Xbox to be more powerful after the X, its nice to have it reassured again. I’m sure that as specifications of the console get set in stone closer to release, Klobrille might be one of the first ones to talk about these.
 

Panajev2001a

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While it is am ideological mind hive, I'm fairly sure that there are more industry insiders over there (many of them used to come here, and would be pretty welcome).

Back to the topic, this is in line with previous leaks, so for now, I think that the top xbox model will be more powerful than the PS5 (assuming there is only one model) and the base model will be about the equivalent of the PS4 PRO in therms of computing power.

Now, I don't know what MS considers "clearly more powerful", and more importantly, will they deliver more than vaporware in therms of good games? Also, as we see with the PRO/X situation, how will these on paper benefits play out? How will Sony handle their get woke go broke strategy? How strongly will Ms push for in game "micro" transactions, even in their SP exclusives? and how will always online come into play? Will the next xbox still have a bloated OS full of features nobody cares about (I mean, my TV handles the media stuff now, I could not care less about which console has the best netflix\prime client\youtube client).

Missed the story about reorganising the entire company around those same woke principle (whether right or wrong they are in isolation and together as a whole) and going heavy handed with tons more HR people announced by Satya Nadella the other day? What do you think?

Do you Not think the hiring strategy has been affected / is being affected (see Bonnie Ross’s / 343i too boss article a few weeks ago)?
 
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Psykodad

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Damage Control for what?

The crossplatform-"issue" or censorship-"issue"?
At least 90% of the overall gaming community doesn't give a damn about any of that and that's even being generous with that 10%.

Lol seriously.
 

Silent Duck

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Breaking News: The PS6 is clearly more powerful than the next Microsoft console, but clearly not as powerful as the Microsoft console after that one.:lollipop_thescream:
 
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Saruhashi

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Does it even matter?

This gen it has really felt like PS exclusives and some slick marketing have been the determining factor in who has walked away as most successful.

So even if Xbox comes out as "the most powerful console ever" they are still going to go up against Sony's exclusive titles.
 
Like I said, Klobrille has leaked more specific stuff in the past. While this for many is a “water is wet” leak since people expected the new Xbox to be more powerful after the X, its nice to have it reassured again. I’m sure that as specifications of the console get set in stone closer to release, Klobrille might be one of the first ones to talk about these.
But was does that matter?

Assume everything they previously leaked was 100% legit.

1. This isn't a leak, because they aren't actually leaking anything. So their track record means nothing when the statement is nothing.

2. Just because they have insider information for Xbox, doesn't mean they have any for Playstation. So being 100% Xbox right doesn't mean you know anything about Playstation.

And overall anyone claiming (insider or not) that Sony is doing Damage Control is just being silly. We should all know by now that being the most powerful isn't the priority for consumers. Price point, games are. How is 4K Xbox doing vs 720p Switch. Thats a statement I'd expect from random twitter users only.
 

Mochilador

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Next box can be more powerful, doesnt matter as ps5 is still the gaming console for most.

I dont know anybody whom buys consoles primary because of power. It is games, price, control, Power
A good portion of this generation was all about power. People didn't want to know the game details, they wanted to know the resolution.
"I won't buy this game if it's not 1080p". "I bought the PS4 for the best graphics".
That was very common around here.
Games below 1080p would be considered a "blurry mess".
Graphics were an obsession back then.
 
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TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Xbox One was more powerful according to insiders too.
Either way I believe they will be similar.
But despite all the claims of Xbox = Power
I don't believe anyone has released a more powerful hardware in the same time frame as Sony.
A year or two later? yes,
but not at the same time.

So unless Xbox Next is releasing a year after I believe they'll be very close like PS4 and Xbox One.
 
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