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Nintendo Switch Lite announced

Kinda uggo. Any word on whether the internals have received a boost in any way - more ram, overclock, better screen, etc.?
 
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Petrae

Member
Cutting out HD rumble is really unfortunate. It’s definitely a cost-cutting move. A handheld portable with rumble would’ve been great. HD rumble is great. I would pay more for it.

It would be unfortunate if Nintendo stopped supporting HD rumble altogether, like how it gave up on 3D for 3DS. I appreciate HD Rumble, especially in pinball sims.

It’s probably both a cost-cutting and battery-saving decision.
 
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nani17

are in a big trouble
Thinking about getting one just for emulation.

Sega mega drive
NES
Super Nintendo
N64

And more on the go.
 

clem84

Gold Member
Hopefully someone here knows this.

Can you have the same Nintendo account on 2 different Switch? If you can, then the no TV out is a non issue. Just use your existing account on the Switch Lite and use the Nintendo Online cloud saves to transfer saves. Regular Switch hooked up to the TV, and Switch Lite for on the go. It's more hassle than "docking" but it works.
 

Gavin Stevens

Formerly 'o'dium'
So people said the portable switch mode was under powered and nobody ever uses the god awful joycons.

So they make this.

#Nintendo

I get it though, I mean, this fills the 3ds hole. But man... just buy a normal switch.
 
I wonder if they went ahead and disabled the TV out because this thing wouldn't fit inside the dock anyway (though it would have worked with the portable one).
More likely it's because, not having vents or fans, it couldn't run in "docked mode" without overheating.
Option 3 is that they just wanted to make it portable only for the sake of a clear marketing distinction--kind of a dick move, and not really necessary, but possible.

Whatever the reason, thanks to that design choice this is not the upgrade for me. Here's hoping the WSJ rumor holds and we get a pro edition early next year.

3ds is practically gonzo, dude. No more games. This is the de facto replacement. Might need one of my cargo sized pockets, but I'll manage.
 

ROMhack

Member
Hopefully someone here knows this.

Can you have the same Nintendo account on 2 different Switch? If you can, then the no TV out is a non issue. Just use your existing account on the Switch Lite and use the Nintendo Online cloud saves to transfer saves. Regular Switch hooked up to the TV, and Switch Lite for on the go. It's more hassle than "docking" but it works.

I'm pretty sure you can but are people who already own a Switch really going to buy another just for handheld which you can already do?
 
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Hopefully someone here knows this.

Can you have the same Nintendo account on 2 different Switch? If you can, then the no TV out is a non issue. Just use your existing account on the Switch Lite and use the Nintendo Online cloud saves to transfer saves. Regular Switch hooked up to the TV, and Switch Lite for on the go. It's more hassle than "docking" but it works.

 

DESTROYA

Member
So much for the switch pro
This is good for kids but i need a version that allows to play handheld games at native resolution.

Not even a die shrink, nvidia is the worse console partner

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dpad redeemed!
Not according to this

Previous reports stated that Nintendo will integrate updated hardware for all new variants, and this is in line with a recent analysis coming from Tirias Research principal analyst Jim McGregor, who informs that “the new Nintendo Switch [Lite] will take advantage of two generations of die shrinks to its Nvidia Tegra processor… By joining the joycons to the main body of the Switch, Nintendo will squeeze out the expensive and sophisticated wireless joycons and create a mobile-first Switch platform. The die shrink of the Nvidia Tegra processor will provide better battery life and a meaningful [graphics] upgrade.”

 

SonGoku

Member
Not according to this

Just a rumor, if that was the case Switch lite would be pasively cooled without the need for vents
 

Zog

Banned

Acidizer

Banned
Why are people complaining about no TV output for a device built exclusively for handheld play?

Cause the hardware is superior AND cheaper, smaller screen of course but that isn't necessarily a negative either. Excellent portability AND able to play on a big plasma? That is a very attractive package. Hell, jack up the price if need be. I'd spend another £50 for that easy.

Unless there is a specific reason this version is unable to output to TV, other than... you know, why the hell wouldn't you be complaining at the stunted functionality? Especially as they kept "switch" in the name.
 
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A couple of things.

- Will you need to be always online for any Switch other than your primary?
- Will you be able to sync saves between Switch even for games that don't have cloud save support (like Pokemon)?

If you have to be always online for your games to work on a handheld only device...well that would suck.

I have no idea to be honest. Sorry. I only have one Switch at the moment. But I don't think so as a answer to your first question... :messenger_winking:
 
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clem84

Gold Member
I'm pretty sure you can but are people who already own a Switch really going to buy another just for handheld which you can already do?
Personally, it's not that it's necessary but being a huge fan of the Switch, I will get this no matter what. It looks more portable and it's also for the novelty of using a different model. I'm probably in the minority willing to pay 200$ for these things.

For new users, I would recommend getting the existing model.
 

jshackles

Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Thinking about getting one just for emulation.

Sega mega drive
NES
Super Nintendo
N64

And more on the go.
You know these probably won't be hackable for quite a while, right? Updated Tegra and no joycon rails mean there won't be any RCM exploits possible. The current software exploits they released last week only work on 4.0 firmware and below (which these definitely won't ship with).

Like all things, it'll be just a matter of time I'm sure - and the fact that users have basically root kernel level access on the non IPATCHED models will help move things along. The people who know what they're doing will have to get their hands on these new Lites - but buying a Switch Lite just to put emulators on it might be something feasible years from now rather than right around the corner.
 

Speedwagon

Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
People want this to turn into a plug-and-play device, like one of those Spongebob joysticks that hook up to your TV. 😂 don’t worry folks it’ll be possible in the future. Either a 3rd party manufaturer or some hacker will make it possible no doubt.
 
People are so hung up on the "Switch" hybrid meaning. What about Nintendo also switching their development pipelines to unify console and handheld?

Maybe some 3rd party will create a TV output adapter via USB-C. I don't know if that's possible but who knows.
 

Codes 208

Member
Being able to SWITCH how you play was the main focus of the Nintendo SWITCH.

Because of this, people were expecting the SWITCH Lite to do the same.
Which people? From the moment it was announced they straight up said “handheld only”

People were making assumptions based on rumors and leaks but even those suggested what we now know to be true.
 

DESTROYA

Member
Just a rumor, if that was the case Switch lite would be pasively cooled without the need for vents
Not necessarily, even with a die shrink they still could be smaller less powerful fans just to keep it cool to the touch along with keeping temps in check.
No one wants a handheld that makes your hands hot and sweaty.
 
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nani17

are in a big trouble
You know these probably won't be hackable for quite a while, right? Updated Tegra and no joycon rails mean there won't be any RCM exploits possible. The current software exploits they released last week only work on 4.0 firmware and below (which these definitely won't ship with).

Like all things, it'll be just a matter of time I'm sure - and the fact that users have basically root kernel level access on the non IPATCHED models will help move things along. The people who know what they're doing will have to get their hands on these new Lites - but buying a Switch Lite just to put emulators on it might be something feasible years from now rather than right around the corner.

Trust me I have patience. :messenger_beaming:
 

SonGoku

Member
Not necessarily, even with a die shrink they still could be smaller less powerful fans just to keep it cool to the touch and temps.
No one wants a handheld that makes there your hands hot and sweaty.
Doubt it, Switch SoC is on 20nm going to 16nm brings substantial power reductions, let alone 10nm 0r 7nm
Besides they would have advertised longer battery life.
 
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Deleted member 752119

Unconfirmed Member
Why are people complaining about no TV output for a device built exclusively for handheld play?

Some where hoping for a smaller, more portable option, maybe better battery life and screen that they could still dock with their existing dock (or buy one separately).

I can understand that, as a lot of people do use it in both modes (but never tabletop or with detached joycons) and would like those benefits while still being able to dock.

But it just is what it is, and not the end of the world to stick with (or pick up) the base model if you really want to use it both ways. Or wait and see what a pro model is--maybe it will provide those kind of benefits to handheld mode/form factor along with any boost in power.
 

iconmaster

Banned
- Will you need to be always online for any Switch other than your primary?

That seems to currently be the case but that'd be insane for a go-anywhere device like the Lite is intended to be. I assume there'll be some other solution, or Nintendo will just make the check-in window more generous.
 

93xfan

Banned
Are they stupid? I wanted one but removing the TV capability is a no go. I am sure it still has the USB-C connector so maybe modders can reanable it but sorry. This is just stupid . . . in my opinion. I know they are after the kids but don't remove the best feature!

They probably just took out the fans and didn’t reduce the chip size, so it has no way to play games at 1080p.

Bummer
 

GAMETA

Banned
OK, but where are these versions?

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Cause the hardware is superior AND cheaper, smaller screen of course but that isn't necessarily a negative either.

Unless there is a specific reason this version is unable to output to TV, why the hell wouldn't you be complaining at the stunted functionality? Especially as they kept "switch" in the name.
I like looking at the positives: it's $100 cheaper and it plays Switch games.

People would say Nintendo should go back to making traditional consoles but the same argument is rarely applied to their handhelds. Personally, I have no desire to play handheld games on a TV, even if those handheld games very much look and play like console games.
 
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Codes 208

Member
There was a significant amount of time before the official announcement. You may have missed out on it. It lasted about a year or so.
Yes, and within that time gaf was babbling about a switch pro and a *possible* handheld only device which originally started the arguments regarding the semantics of the name switch.
OK, but where are these versions?

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Get rid of the skittles then id be all over that white one.
 

DESTROYA

Member
Doubt it, Switch SoC is on 20nm going to 16nm brings substantial power reductions, let alone 10nm 0r 7nm
Besides they would have advertised longer battery life.
They did say that, how much longer is another story.

Quote from the verge article

Nintendo says the Lite features “slightly” improved battery life — the company wouldn’t get any more specific than that — due to a more power-efficient chip layout, as well as the lack of additional batteries in the built-in controllers.
 
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ROMhack

Member
One thing that did stand out is their decision not to give it some girth. The normal Switch makes my hand go number after a while, I really hope this alleviates it somehow.
 

Zog

Banned
I have no idea to be honest. Sorry. I only have one Switch at the moment. But I don't think so as a answer to your first question... :messenger_winking:


I found this in the comments on Nintendo Life:

Official FAQ:

You can link your Nintendo Account to multiple consoles. However, you can only activate one console per Nintendo Account. Games that you’ve downloaded with your Nintendo Account will only be playable on the one active console for your account.


So you aren't going to be doing this very often if you can only have one activated at a time.
 

Codes 208

Member
One thing that did stand out is their decision not to give it some girth. The normal Switch makes my hand go number after a while, I really hope this alleviates it somehow.
The smaller compact design may alleviate some that issue (i considered the switch to be a little too wide honestly)

But if not, i recommend getting one of those third party grip cases. Thats helped quite a bit for me.
 
...and again you refuse to be specific. Do I have to come right out and ask what specifically you think is unnecessary bitching?

This thread is page after page of people bitching that the smaller, lighter, $100 cheaper Switch doesn't have all the features of the old Switch.

Want TV out, rumble, detachable joy cons etc...? Buy the old model Switch or wait for its refresh. Pretty simple. Nintendo is obviously going after the portable 2DS/3DS market with this, and will succeed in doing it.
 
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It's a handheld that plays Switch games. If they dropped Switch from the name, they would most likely have another marketing disaster like the Wii U.

It is indeed done for the sake of name recognition, even though it's technically incorrect. I don't believe that many people interested in the system will bother about the name.
 

Rockondevil

Member
Been waiting for the new iteration however I had hoped for a cheaper version that I could still use TV output with because that's all I want. I will never use the portability so for me personally they are overpriced.
Good addition for those who want the portability though at a good price.
 

Codes 208

Member
How dare you
I find colored buttons to look tacky. Colored letters ala xbox one, ps4 and n3ds xl are fine though.

Perhaps its because I'm American and I grew up with the purple and white snes and never understood the nostalgic factor of the skittles (outside the xbox and xbox 360)
 
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Business

Member
Why are people complaining about no TV output for a device built exclusively for handheld play?

Don't be obtuse. Pleople likes the form factor, the lighter weight, the d-pad... and think Nintendo could have made it possible to have TV output as well, as on the surface, it doesn't look like a massive problem to include it.


Real talk, what exactly makes the Switch Lite exclusively built for handheld play? Maybe worst cooling so it can't work at regular Switch's docked performance?
 

Codes 208

Member
Don't be obtuse. Pleople likes the form factor, the lighter weight, the d-pad... and think Nintendo could have made it possible to have TV output as well, as on the surface, it doesn't look like a massive problem to include it.


Real talk, what exactly makes the Switch Lite exclusively built for handheld play? Maybe worst cooling so it can't work at regular Switch's docked performance?
Perhaps to improve battery life they added a limiter to prevent the overclocking via docked mode from kicking in.
 
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