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Uhhh... watI know! Thank goodness these shitstains are almost always women!
Uhhh... watI know! Thank goodness these shitstains are almost always women!
I know! Thank goodness these shitstains are almost always women!
Nathalie has the proof of emails were being exchanged, proof of that she did crunch for job and she wanted to get paid.
Nathalie has the proof she was fired by her CEO by email.
Nathalie has the proof that she asked to get paid for some work she did before getting fired by the CEO and the CEO replied her back that the company is not gonna pay her for the las job because he said that she delivered something they didn't want instead.
Nathalie has the proof that she had emailed the CEO telling him that didn't enjoy working with everybody in the company they were unprofessional and inneficient.
I'll try to continue reading this long ass text of her after. And I'll let you know if I could find the smoking gun..
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All things aside what kinda of a fucking name is Nathalie?
All things aside what kinda of a fucking name is Nathalie?
Nah, its the fact that is the obnoxious way to write a normal game. Kinda like Rachel/Raquel/Rachael but you should know better to name your kid Rachael.Nathan was a nerd with no internet friends so he started over on the other side?
Nathalie has claimed that she deserved a second chance to prove that first company she worked was wrong and she could make a thing. So she took another job by a coworker (My Boss) of hers.
Nathalie has claimed that this "My Boss" was trying to talk to her for more work and he was already owning her $7k.
Nathalie has the proof that she exchange email with "My Boss" to get a reimbursement from her unpaid work. The "My Boss" replied that he had a limit of $10k to pay her but he couldn't afford not even paying the first 2 invoices at the moment.
After some more email exchanging about the same subject Nathalie "stopped and wen back to recovering" of the crunch,
Nathalie has claimed the her boss was trying to put some work for her. Even during the company launch party she and the "My Boss" were working together.
Nathalie has claimed that her working situation with the company has been eventually degraded.
End of Episode 2.
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A pretty normal one? One of my best friends is called NathalieAll things aside what kinda of a fucking name is Nathalie?
Yep, between experiencing a rape that is potentially the most traumatic experience in my life, and being too afraid to go to the police or really to anyone because I would still lose my only source of income, career, and potentially become homeless despite the outcome, the thing *I* would immediately do in the limited few days that DNA evidence lasts, is somehow think to extract my rapist's semen and put it in a tube and a freezer so that I can preserve it for years and have it with me at all times, in case that years later when I finally got the courage to speak up, I needed it.
Also, have you heard of condoms?
FYI, just because you keep posting rage emoji text doesn't somehow obscure the very clear fact that you have no frame of reference to think about what actually happens during rapes in the workplace. Your fantasy version of it isn't it though.
Semen is not the only way to get DNA or the only thing that comes out of a rape kit - hairs and other forensic evidence as well as trauma can be documented.
Do you call herA pretty normal one? One of my best friends is called Nathalie
Ah yes, saving her rapists hair for years until she's ready to come forward is definitely a more reasonable expectation we should have of a rape victim. Also I somehow doubt this forum would buy this. "Oh they hung out as friends, of course there is hair there! My cat gets its hair everywhere!"
Also I somehow doubt this forum would buy this. "Oh they hung out as friends, of course there is hair there! My cat gets its hair everywhere!"
Nathalie is a pretty common name in Europe/Austria/Germany. it's actually spelled out Natha-leeDo you call her
Natha-lie?
Uh, what are you talking about?
That's how you say it. It's just written like that because it is. Other example: Sophie. In english you'd spell it out something like Sophy but in german for example you say SopheeNathalee makes more sense imo
Sophie is a perfectly normal name and cute name.That's how you say it. It's just written like that because it is. Other example: Sophie. In english you'd spell it out something like Sophy but in german for example you say Sophee
You realize that the morphology of hairs are different, right? If a male pubic hair is uncovered with the kit, that's different than body hair or head hair.
I'm talking about the fact that getting raped at work is a totally different experience and elicits totally different actions from victims than you are imagining it is.
Being afraid to lose your job means you probably won't go to the police in the few days during which evidence can be collected. Often you might not do so for years since you might be too busy bouncing between being utterly traumatized and unable to talk about it, and worrying that you might lose your income and become homeless. It's also the case that even when victims who do go to the police and have been raped for real, the chances of actually recovering usable evidence is very small.
I do realize it but I also realize that people would still explain it away.
Is your entire position based on speculation and pontificating?Ok but probably a person won't have coincidentally raped your friends you worked with. Probably a person might do this to one person per few years, at different places of work, not daily, and specifically to the people you know.
I agree. As I said, I don't think action should be taken against him unless there actually is evidence. I just support the sharing of the story in case it does lead to others who might have evidence to come forward, or if the person who initially posted her story does end up providing evidence, or someone else who knows about it can corroborate her claims.
And now...
Nathalie has claimed that her "My Boss" 's brother went so far to write her in the game by quoting what she said in the party(company launch party?) as one of the bad guys in the game.
Nathalie has the proof that the "My Boss" has reached her by email ask for more work
Nathalie has the proof that she had exchange emails with her "My Boss" negotiating the time she would be working and she suggested her "My Boss" to recruit more people to work.
Nathalie has the proof that the "My Boss" asked her for more work around a month after the last email exchange.
Nathalie has the proof that she emailed her "My Boss" five days after the last email and seh told him that their cooperation has been terminated not before billing the final invoice. She had also CC'ed the "My Boss" 's brother in the same email.
Nathalie has the proof that her "My Boss" tried to convince her continue working for him but she replied that it was non-negotiable.
Nathalie has the proof that "My Boss" s brother replied the same email she previously sent by telling her that company would pay the money they owed her. And that "no one would give a flying shit what is in her email. Also told her to stop spreading bullshit by email.
End of Episode 3.
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What stings so much about how my former boss talks about me now is that he actually brags. He made a point to brag about my involvement in a post-mortem Gamasutra blogpost (apparently not up anymore). I ran into him at GDC and he cheerfully greeted me with “Nathalie! Do you remember me?” like somehow what they did, and how they behaved is OK. I don’t want to see these people ever again. It’s not OK.
I sincerely mean this, and I don’t say this lightly, but if it wasn’t for IndieCade I don’t think I would be here today.
If it wasn’t for what I experienced in the indie space, I would have killed myself. I honestly believed that men were just like this, and that there wasn’t any space for me. I don’t think there’s words to express how trapped, hopeless, and alone you feel when you realize that no matter how hard you work, you’ll never get anywhere because you are not a man. A guy can do this to you. Rape you. Harass you. Cost you everything, and people will believe the wildest things he says about you because he is who he is and you are nothing.
I agree. As I said, I don't think action should be taken against him unless there actually is evidence. I just support the sharing of the story in case it does lead to others who might have evidence to come forward, or if the person who initially posted her story does end up providing evidence, or someone else who knows about it can corroborate her claims.
The name makes it too obvious you're a troll. Should have gone with something a bit more subtle, but keep fighting the good fight.I know! Thank goodness these shitstains are almost always women!
Previously on this week's drama:
And Now...
Season Finale.
Nathalie has claimed that company's accountant has answered and accused her of stealing the work's source code she did for the company.
Nathalie has the proof of the email exchange between the company's accountant and her while the "My Boss" has been CC'd in every email.
Nathalie has the proof that she sent a last email to ask for the remaining $2,320 the company owed to her .
- Nathalie asked for the missing payments while accountant told her that she needs to send to the company all the latest versioned files she had from the project she worked.
- The accountant said that the company still owed her $7,320 and the accountant that the company was very clear six month ago since her termination that she should return all the files, assets, of the same project she had in her possession
- And in another email the same accountant said that in order to avoid legal action the company poposed to pay her only $5k of what they owed her ecause they claimed that she was 'intentionally withholding' assets.
Nathalie has the claimed that she only received $5k and never got a reply from her last email.
Nathalie has the claimed that she had a melt down while listening to a classical music station.
Then after some more Nathalie melt down I have finally found the word rape in the following sentence.
The veredict:
I freaking wasted my time trying to figure out whether rape was true or not.
At least I tried....
The problem is that you are assuming that people should be rational... Unfortunately, the fact that we can be rational in these cases doesn't make other people be, as a proof you have people here "factually" calling it a lie, while other people in the other forum calling it absolutely true.
In a more ideal world, the victim of rape would go to the legal authorities, fill a demand, present proof or whatever if possible and if they don't do something, then go to social media and do a public accusation and people shouldn't jump to conclusions until take in consideration all the variables (like the accuser, because, for example, the other person accusing today has way too low credibility even if it result being true).
But as you said, this is not the case for several factors that we can't simply understand by thinking it's ideal because we are not them and/or haven't lived the same situation.
It sucks because it's this complex fue to this cognitive bias that's being exploted by not intelligent enough people with bad intentions, making things harder for real victims to get credibility.
There's no ideal conclusion to this, people with act emotional anyway...
Is your entire position based on speculation and pontificating?
Surely she knows who might have evidence or not. She could go to them personally. Instead you think smearing a person on twitter is appropriate just in case?
Given the rarity with which people reveal these events in professional settings, you can't seriously believe that she would know about other instances, can you? It's not like you can google it or look it up in his LinkedIn profile. People keep this stuff secret for YEARS.
others who might have evidence to come forward, or if the person who initially posted her story does end up providing evidence, or someone else who knows about it can corroborate her claims.
His career is already under fire from cunts who believe in finding a person guilty without trial.
Fuck off with this shit.
Oh Right I forgot you made up this fiction in your head that she is apparently unable to get any other job.Bark bark wood woof
" I believe any accusation must be treated as true. Who needs evidence if my politicael beliefs are validated.I don't think people will act in a rational way. It's obvious that they won't But I refuse to put "you must have evidence to convict someone before you can tell your story in a public forum" type of requirements for talking about your experiences.
Right now it's just a fact that the vast majority of accusations are real, and the vast majority of accusations that are real also cannot be proven. Given this, to me it seems obvious that people should be able to talk about their experiences, as one powerful way to prove their claims is if their stories enable other victims of said perpetrators to come forward.
Twitter is not the police. People who report crimes on Twitter to try and get a mob of vigilante justice on the accused are disgusting. That's the crime here.
I'd delete my Twitter if I was getting message bombed by SJW's who would also be going through old tweets to find "Evidence".It seems like he deleted his Twitter, any word from him?
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Claiming other people might have evidence of it happening to her or know about it happening to her and can corroborate.
Now you are changing it to knowing about it happening to other people?
"Guys, maybe Jeremy Soule is running a rape train? We have no proof of this, but we should drag him through the mud anyway. I heard he likes beer so it must true.Can't it be both? When a victim calls out a rapist, other victims end up being encouraged to come forward, and some of them might have evidence. It might also be the case that someone at work who doesn't know the person was raped can, after the fact, find evidence. For example if I claim I was raped, a coworker might corroborate it by saying "Oh I remember that week, he came in with a black eye and wouldn't talk to anyone. Now it makes sense!" This kind of corroborating evidence can be very powerful.
Anyway, you're now stuck arguing that someone telling their story DOESN'T somehow increase their chances of finding evidence and getting justice. That's not a good place to be in a discussion IMO, but if that's where you are, I'm happy to leave it at that since it's obviously false.
Oh Right I forgot you made up this fiction in your head that she is apparently unable to get any other job.
I have to laugh at you acting up if she was somehow his slave. You're making ridiculous assumptions to defend her incredibly stupid accusations. Talk about fantasies lol
So just a recap you defend public witch hunting based off of no evidence on Twitter, and you're willing to make up any story based off of literally nothing to justify those which hunts.
Let me guess?
you're "fair to both sides"?
And have you never had sex? Condom or not, sex leaves DNA traces. She could have gone to police immediately after and open a police report.
I know you don't believe that police officers take rape cases seriously, becuase you are a fool, but that would have been what a smart person did.
A liar runs to Twitter and riles up idiots like you who will believe anything
bark bark
" I believe any accusation must be treated as true. Who needs evidence if my politicael beliefs are validated.
collateral damage? Never heard of it"
What a boofer. I bet he drinks beer, too.That's a good start, but as a next step maybe you can write down all the made-up positions you enjoy arguing against, and then build a Rhysser doll and pre-record them so you can argue with it. It might provide a more visceral experience than doing it in a forum post.
I would like to clarify that I was not physically raped, but I was sexually harassed and violated both emotionally and professionally by this creep.
For all the people demanding proof in other posts, I hardly believe you’d like to see the video he sent me of him masterbating “for science”... or what about about him asking me to come over to his home to demo mics at 11pm at night and talk about other vocalists who all want to sleep with him. Or to lead me to believe he is romantically interested and then when I told him I only wanted a professional relationship I was blocked and removed from a project I was proposed to work on. What kind of proof are you searching for? I find it hard to believe anybody who has nothing to hide would disappear from social media entirely minus a blank Instagram account...
Wow, so I just got a private message on Twitter from a fan of mine (I don't mean that to sound pretentious) in Scotland. She asked about my tweet about Jeremy Soule, and said that he was in touch with her and suggested meeting up, visiting her in Scotland (she refused). I'm glad she never took him up on it!
This dude was a predator, straight up. This woman has nothing to do with music—in other words, there was really no legitimate capacity for him to be associating with her on that level (not to mention she's in her 20s). CREEP.